I agree with what you said about music and math being correlated, because I
play an instrument and math has always come easy to me ( I know that this is
not evidence enough for a theory like that, but, it works for me ).
My question is what is the best way to get into network software
engineering? What books should I read? What courses are most relevant in
the undergraduate curriculum? I am trying to complete my computer science
degree now and I am one test away from a CCNP. I like networking but I also
like programming. I find it hard to commit to one, so I figured I might as
well combine the two. So I need some advice on how to enter the market for
network software engineering? My guess is I will I have to read all of
Richard Steven's books.
Thanks
Paul
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
Reply-To: Priscilla Oppenheimer
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:37:52 -0400
I'm sure there are people who are good at both types of tasks: CCIE tasks
and software development tasks. For both jobs, you have to be smart, that's
for sure.
Well, thinking about the work of Howard Gardner, who wrote some terrific
books on multiple intelligences, I would change that. To be a CCIE or
software developer you need logical/mathematical intelligence. Linguistic
intelligence helps but is not required for either. There seems to be a high
correlation between logical/mathematical and musical intelligence. I
suspect that for many support jobs, you need body/kinesthetic intelligence
and spatial intelligence, which many software developers do not have.
At my local high school I help with both hardware and Cisco classes. The
school requires the hardware class before the Cisco classes. A certain set
of students do really well in the hardware class because they have
excellent body and spatial intelligence. They can take apart and rebuild a
computer in seconds. Then they get to the Cisco Academy class and are
expected to read volumes of material on the theory of networking, deal with
obscure subnetting scenarios, learn file-naming conventions for Cisco IOS,
pass a written multiple-choice test every other week (requiring linguistic
intelligence), etc. They spend almost no time building networks. Most of
the students who were stars in the hardware class do terribly in the Cisco
classes. It's sad to see them decide that maybe they aren't good with
computers afterall. I try to build up their egos again, because I think the
Cisco Academy materials are completely wrong for a high school and don't
take into account that the networking field needs people of different types
of intelligence.
That's my $0001. I'd love to hear those blues, Ole! ;-) I love the
blues.
Priscilla
At 09:07 AM 7/19/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote:
I hear what you're saying Phil, and agree that these two areas are very
different. My problem was always the forgetting the time when I was
diving
in thousands lines of codes, and I would suddently look at the clock and
discover that it was 4 o'clock in the morning.
It doesn't mean however that you can't do both. It's like when I'm
playing
my guitar. Sometimes, I grap my Jackson and play Satriani or Nuno, and at
other times, I grap my handmade Spanish guitar and play classical music,
but
most often I use my SRV signature stratocaster and play blues.
The fun begins when you're mixing them all together - that's when you
start
playing like Blackmore or Yngwie...
After that being said, I realize that keeping up with new technologies in
both areas can be tough and very time dependant, but it can be done.
Another 0010 cents.
Take care,
Ole
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Ole Drews Jensen
Systems Network Manager
CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Phil Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 4:56 AM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
Ole,
I think I know where Priscilla is coming from.
I developed software for 10 years (mainly C/C++)
before turning to Network Engineering. The difference
in the roles in my experience has been dramatic.
Software Engineering requires an intensity of
concentration that I can only compare to playing
chess. I was rarely required to interact with
customers and as a result my interpersonal skills
didn't develop.
I took my first job in Networking for a major
bank. This was very open plan and one day the team
leader called the regular meeting. Everyone shuffled
towards the meeting room EXCEPT me. 45 mins later my
team leader came looking for me. I was still at my
desk, deep in concentration. She couldn't stop
