RE: (subject field is there for a reason)
Would it be to hard to put a subject PLEASE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Thanh Nam Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jobs@groupstudy. com; ingrlist@geocomm. com; geomedia-l-digest@lists. directionsmag. com; gislist@geocomm. com; gisjoblist@geocomm. com; GeoMedia@egroups. com; CISCO@groupstudy. com Subject: Dear All Now, I prepare for examming the Analyzing Requirements and Defineolution Architecture but I have not got any book about it. Help me. If you have pls help me Thanh Nam Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VPN NAT
Same here, but got it after the second try Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Greg Reaume Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 8:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VPN NAT Sorry, when I clicked on the link when first posted I got a request error. Not a document not found, but a 'request error'. I guess there were problems at the time, now it works. Thanks for the link. :) Greg ""Chuck Larrieu"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8tt5l2$dlg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8tt5l2$dlg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... one more reason to read my posts first - the link I sent is fine. can go in as either guest or registered. info looks to be about the same. here it is again. http://www.cisco.com/tac/newsflash/vpn2.html Chuck "Greg Reaume" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:8tt4o9$cic$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This link doesn't work. Mind reposting a checked one? :) Thx. "Duane Morgan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I don't know who was trying to configure this, but this link might help: http://www.cisco.com/tac/newflash/vpn2.html _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Cisco Upsell Kit...oh yeah and shirt
FYI In the US ONLY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Poyerd, Denis Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:07 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Free Cisco Upsell Kit...oh yeah and shirt http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/lm/buffer/offer/1700now/1451_jump/V556-300XA _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: oh geez another CCNP
Congradulations are in order! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Lodwick Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 8:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: oh geez another CCNP I have read everyone else writing into the list excited to have their CCNP and finally it's my chance to be excited. Brian is CCNP today. I'm sure everyone is excited Thanks for everyones questions and replies on the list it has been very helpful. Brian _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Anyone's comments on BCSN class?
I am doing self study and bought a few of the books you mentioned. The first on I have attacked is the one by Thomas II Hey I am only on page 65 and I am getting a little ticked off. I've been waiting for this book for a month now and I finally got it. (ordered it so I could not look at it before I paid). ISBN: 0-07-212477 So far there is a lot of assumption from the authors. All is just "thrown" with little or no explanation. Chapter 2 answer key (2.10) full of errors Typo's: too many to mention Figures on Chapter 3 (page 65) not very well presented (personal opinion) I had high expectation and was anticipating a really good book. It is early in the book and early this Saturday morning but I sure hope it gets better. I will follow up on this, but sure would like some feedback. Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Cotts Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 3:15 PM To: 'Dave M.'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Anyone's comments on BCSN class? Just returned from BSCN with MentorTech. I did not study any of the material beforehand but did meet the prerequisites. Seeing that you already have CCNP you should be quite comfortable. At issue is always the makeup of the class members. If many have the "deer in the headlights look" the instructor may have to change the pace of the class. Subnetting and VLSM took a day and a half. That is listed as a prerequisite. I don't know if that is the normal pace. We did feel a little rushed at the end. Judging by my routing table many of the groups did not finish their labs. They cut out at five - done or not. 1) Recommendation to all. Expect to be introduced to a lot of material. It would be a rare person who would know it well by week's end. Expect to spend a lot of time in further study. I have some routers so I will be able to redo the labs. They do a lot with a few boxes. A good idea would be to review each days material in the evening. I'll be making up flash cards from the objectives listed at the beginning of each chapter. 2) Prep. The more that you know - the more in depth your questions can be. Great sources are CCO, and the Cisco Press books that cover routing. Jeff Doyle, Bassam Halabi, Tom Thomas, the EIGRP book, and ACRC. If you know all that material then you don't need the class. 3) No. Enjoy! -Original Message- From: Dave M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 3:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Anyone's comments on BCSN class? To all those that have attended the Building Scalable Cisco Networks (BSCN) class, I'll be attending this next week and would really appreciate your input on a couple questions... 1) Any recommendations before going into the class? 2) Any preperation? 3) In retrospect, was there anything that you felt you would have asked for up front or during the course of the class had you known what you know now? Thanks so much. This group has been invaluable for me. -Dave Martin CCNP,CCDP __ ___ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Subnet mask question..
I am not sure if Brian is talking about this http://www.3com.com/nsc/501302.html but it is worth the reading. It is by Chuck Semeria . (about 100 pages in pdf format accessible at bottom of html page) Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Lodwick Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 9:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Subnet mask question.. Brian, I hate the way these tests word their questions sometimes. Why don't they just state the mask as it should be -contiguous bits left to right(except for wildcard masks ofcourse). If they are going to state the subnet portion is stealing 11 bits from the host portion of the address why don't they just state that. You are exactly right though a /11 subnet mask is 255.224.0.0 Don't let these silly tests screw you up. I think sometimes they try to impress a point and screw things up. I don't think Cisco is in the business to have you memorize wrong information. (If you know subnetting in the real world, you will pass their test questions regarding these issues ~~I would read Cisco's ACRC book and practice their examples, there is also a great section on 3com's website on subnetting I highly reccomend). There are 3 portions of the address (network,subnet,and host)and the subnet portion is using 11 host bits to subdivide this class b network. The subnet mask would be /27 or 255.255.255.224not /11. Brian At 08:47 AM 10/14/2000 +, you wrote: Default netmask for class B is 255.255.0.0 with 11 subnet mask you will have /27 ie 255.255.255.224 it's bit confusing though.. Nobody Keith Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in article [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Ive been at this for quite a while and the odd subnet question still gets me. Boson question: IP address 172.16.3.57 w/ and 11-bit subnet mask. What are valid hosts? I think ok class B, but I look at 11 bits as 255.224.0.0 (.1110.0.0) which does not go with the choices of answers I had. I got it wrong as the answer says an 11-bit mask is 255.255.255.224 when using a class b address. Is the mask there not 27 bits? What am I missing there? How do they get the above mask w/11 bits? The valid hosts were: 172.16.3.33-172.16.3.62, which I think is valid for a 27 bit mask _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to save switch config
If I am not mistaken on a "set base" sw. the config is save automatically after pressing ENTER Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lists Wizard Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Cisco group study'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to save switch config Helo, does any body remember the command to save the switch configuration on a cisco catalyst switch , set based switches like 6500 catalyst switches Rover _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Not impressed with BSCN Thomas II (book review)
Just started reading the book. (100 pages read for the first time) This comment is only on a first look at the book. If you are reading the book you will find the mistakes pretty easily. If you read below I stated a few places where a few errors where. Add on to this: Chapt 4 page 96 figure 4.1 Totally irrelevant. There is also another figure 4-1 on Page 100 Usually there should only be one figure 4-1 Back to reading! Feedback from anyone who is or has read the book is welcome. Did anyone actually only read this book to pass the BSCN? I know it states on the cover "Book Companion" which probably means "buy another book instead" or "companion is what you really should have instead of this book" Just a little frustrated, sorry to the list.. Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marco Rodrigues Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Not impressed with BSCN Thomas II (book review) Do you know if there an errata for that book? I looked at the ciscopress webpage didn't see one for that book. Or maybe point out some of the mistakes? Thanks! :) ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00af01c035ed$8b8a6cc0$ec659aaa@bwilson">news:00af01c035ed$8b8a6cc0$ec659aaa@bwilson... Haven't read the BSCN book, no - I read the BCMSN which was loaded with mistakes, and I had ordered the BSCN but my order was cancelled because the publication date was pushed back. I'm not sure I'll re-order it at this time. - Original Message - From: Daniel Boutet Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 10:24 AM Subject: Re: Not impressed with BSCN Thomas II (book review) This is actually the third one of this series that I look at. The BCRAN one was almost a carbon copy of the Cisco Press book by Karen Webb which was very good. I also bought the CIT book of this series but I haven't really looked at it in depth since I am keeping it for my last CCNP exam. If anyone read the CIT I sure would appreciate some comments on it. Did you read the BSCN book Bradley? ""Bradley J. Wilson"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00a301c035e8$65b32d20$ec659aaa@bwilson">news:00a301c035e8$65b32d20$ec659aaa@bwilson... This seems to be a common problem among that whole series of books. I'm curious as to how much production time went into them, etc. - Original Message - From: Daniel Boutet Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 9:59 AM Subject: Not impressed with BSCN Thomas II (book review) Hey I am only on page 65 and I am getting a little ticked off. I've been waiting for this book for a month now and I finally got it. (ordered it so I could not look at it before I paid). ISBN: 0-07-212477 So far there is a lot of assumption from the authors. All is just "thrown" with little or no explanation. Chapter 2 answer key (2.10) full of errors Typo's: too many to mention Figures on Chapter 3 (page 65) not very well presented (personal opinion) I had high expectation and was anticipating a really good book. I will follow up on this but sure would like some feedback. Daniel _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Router w/o any brains
Paul, This really makes my week. I love analogy and the one you have written is totally awesome. I would like to use it if you do not mind. Have a great weekend... Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul Werner Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Router w/o any brains I was wondering if anyone has come across a router where the hostname showed up as such: Router(boot)# one of my peers has told me this means the router did not fully boot up. Is this true? Boot mode is what he called it. Any help is much appreciated in advance. While I am reasonably confident that this issue has been addressed at least one hundred times in the archives, I am going to take a new and innovative approach on this issue. Here goes... Consider your router to be like a little kid. It generally has no intelligence until you take the time to educate it. It will function without education, but it does so much better with a little bit of intelligence turned on. Consider that you have the ability to influence the intelligence of this router and restrict whether it will remain at the fifth grade level, or advance on to doctoral studies in network engineering 8-) First, you will need to turn on the "proper" learning environment. You do this by going to the proper mode on this device and first determine if it has a brain. Sadly alas, not all routers have brains installed! Some of them have lost their brains along the way due to maliciousness on the part of others, abandonment, or neglect. Sometimes, they have to get their brains every time they wake up (it's a difficult life for a router). If they can't find their brains, they wander aimlessly through router life as an uneducated router. To check to see if the router has any brains, do a "show flash" command when you log in at priviledge mode. If there is a valid brain installed, it will have a cryptic name such as c2500-js-l_120-3.bin. Once you have determined that you have the correct brain for your given router, you need to see if somebody turned on the learning settings for this device. The learning settings will govern how much knowledge the device can attain. There are three levels generally. They are as follows: Rock Stupid (also called rommon mode, less than helpful mode, 0x2100 mode) - at this level, the router will never really amount to much in life. This is what your mom warned you about when she brought up the topic of getting a good education! The good news is that you can rapidly advance to a more educated station in life by going to the next educational level. See grade school mode below. Grade School mode (also called Rxboot mode, or the baby IOS mode,boot mode, or 0x2101 mode)- In this mode, you router is in a good position to learn a lot. It will not actually perform any useful work however, because it needs more intelligence to function. It can do the basics, such as find its way around its environment, ask others for directions, and so on. Of course, it will never rise to its full potential until it gets a good education and completes the final education portal (where all future learning takes place). See High Scool diploma mode below. High School diploma mode (also known as Full boot mode, normal boot, 0x2102 mode and other names). This is the full level of educational awareness. This is the mode where all forms of advanced learning take place. It is an absolutely essential prerequisite to have the high school diploma mode before going on to advanced educational pursuits such as BS/BA mode, Masters mode, or PHD mode. We can get to these more advanced modes simply by swapping out our existing brain (IOS) for a better brain (More advanced feature set IOS). Of course, you will have to pay tuition (licensing fees) for that higher education;-) So, to recap, first you need to see if you have a brain installed. Do a "show flash" command at user or priviledged mode to see that a valid operating system exists. Check what you have against the chart on this page to see if it is correct: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/4.html or, http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/1.html or, http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/620/5.shtml#identifiers Once you know you have the correct brain for your router, then see if it is set to the proper leaning mode listed above. This is done very simply by inspecting the learning index indicator (also called the configuration register) with the following command: "show version" Look for the output at the bottom (after pressing the space bar once) for the configuration register setting. If it is anything other than high school mode (0x2102), you may need to change it. Go into your device and get to the following prompt: Router(boot)# configure terminalCR Router(boot)(config)#configuration-register 0x2102 Finally verify you did it correctly by typing the following command:
RE: CCDA?
Ben, This is great for studying or just reviewing general knowledge. Keep up the GREAT work. Hope I get to study CCDA soon. (Currently working on BSCN) Daniel, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ben Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:25 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: CCDA? Check out my flash cards, free www.networkking.net/ccda It needs Internet Explorer 4.1 and higher Does not run under Netscape. Bernard hi anyone got any tips on CCDA? jASON **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BCMSN: VLAN's and Subnets
I have one problem with this scenario: Why did you put VLAN under layer 3 info? As far as I know they are strictly L2 My two cents: Assuming that they have their own servers, and that you are not routing between them then they can have any address that you wish (private). It is like having two LANs. The switches can also be totally separate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ole Drews Jensen Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:48 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: BCMSN: VLAN's and Subnets I have a question about implementing VLAN's in existing LAN's. Let's say that I have one office with stacked switches connecting 100 users to a network with a couple of servers and other good stuff. Layer 2 info: Ethernet, one big broadcast domain Layer 3 info: IP, one full class C : 192.168.16.0 After having analyzed the entire LAN, I find out that 50 users are using resources that the other 50 users are not using, and the same thing the other way around. Instead of splitting the stacked switches up in two separated physical stacks, I now assign the ports for the first 50 users to VLAN 11 and for the rest 50 users VLAN 12. Layer 2 info: Ethernet, two big broadcast domains (not including VLAN1) Layer 3 info: IP, one full class C : 192.168.16.0 I would assume that this would work great as long as noone from VLAN 11 needs any resources from VLAN 12, and the same thing the other way around. Now to my question (which is more a confirmation of my theory): I would only need to split my class C up in subnets if I want Inter-VLAN communication between my VLAN 11 and VLAN 12 right??? Layer 2 info: Ethernet, two big broadcast domains (not including VLAN1) Layer 3 info: IP, VLAN 11 : 192.168.16.64/26, VLAN 12 : 192.168.16.128/26 Do I have the right idea, or am I way off??? Thanks for your comments on this. Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.insync.net/~drews/ccnp **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: exam topics for various cisco tests
There is definitively no VoIP on the BCRAN exam. Nothing on TAG Switching, DMZ, VPDN, Firewalls, and QoS. I cannot vouch for everyone but I did not get any questions on these subjects. I wrote it Aug 15/00 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 12:38 PM To: Jon; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: exam topics for various cisco tests The topic outline (objectives) for BCRAN are really bad. They include VoIP twice for one thing!?! This is definitely a case where you should use the course outline rather than the silly PDF file for the outlines that has unrelated topics in a bizarre order. I'm pretty sure VoIP is not really on the BCRAN exam. It's not in the class. I took the Foundation exam and didn't get any VoIP question. Perhaps others can tell us if they got any VoIP questions on BCRAN. Priscilla At 12:28 AM 9/14/00, Jon wrote: I was wondering about the Exam Outline Prep. Guide. The BCRAN Guide shows VoIP, but neither the Cisco Press Book, or the BCRAN course objectives mention it. Oh well, Jon "Priscilla Oppenheimer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I sent a message to Cisco Training a couple months ago pointing out that some of their objectives/topics lists are lacking in useful information (to say the least). I gave them suggestions on how to fix the lists for CCNA, Switching, Remote Access, and Support, all of which have absolutely awful lists. I got back a form letter saying that all scores are final and if I need more information on how to pass the tests, go to these URLs. Guess what the URLs were to? The useless list of objectives. (I was just trying to help. I've actually passed CCDP and CCNP, by the way.) One thing that helps when you're studying is to use the course objectives instead of the test objectives. For example, instead of looking at the useless test topics for CCNA, which claim you'll need to know IPX three times and that PPP is a bridging/switching technology, use the course outline available here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/cust/classes/C-TRN-ICND.html For BCRAN, go here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/cust/classes/C-TRN-BCRAN.htm l For CIT (Support) go here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/cust/classes/C-TRN-CIT.html Routing and Switching CCIE written has a good exam blueprint here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/rsblueprint.html Hope this helps, Priscilla At 04:23 PM 9/13/00, Igor wrote: i just got my CCNA i noticed that the online networking academy curriculum had detailed list of 60 topics to review for CCNA test (not that i did), which did not appear on the exam info at the www.cisco.com cisco website's exam info contains a detailed list for routing 2, and CCDA/DP tests. however, the list of topics for the other 3 CCNP tests is very sparse additionally, there are some goals for CCIE written test, but no detailed topics or objectives. i think it would be useful to obtain this, maybe contact cisco, or if such thing is not available come up with our own list. let me know if you have any ideas/interest in this. igor vilensky Do You Yahoo!? http://mail.yahoo.com/Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct
