Re: Frame-relay

2001-03-07 Thread EA Louie

When your frame relay service provider assigns you PVC's, they are private
unless otherwise specified.

The carrier will collect PVC's from different users and transport them over
a large pipe together, same as the carriers do with T-1 or subrate circuits.
Therefore, it is shared from that perspective, but unless someone has access
to that large pipe, the PVC's do not cross across customer boundaries.  In
other words, no other customer has access to your PVC's.

At the end points, the carrier will demux the various PVCs and route them to
the proper destinations.


- Original Message -
From: Dan West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: John Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: Frame-relay


 AFAIK, this can be true if only one customer is using
 all the VCs in a frame network. If nobody else has VCs
 on that network, it would not be an issue unless, of
 course, somebody physically compromises the media
 (copper tapping). Is this accurate?? :

 --- John Jarrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Could someone please clarify something for me about
  Frame-relay?
 
  I had always understood that traffic over
  frame-relay was unsecure and
  needed to be encrypted if it was of a critical
  nature.  Is frame-relay
  always a shared network?  I had thought so but I
  have recently had a
  someone explain to me that they did not need to
  encrypt the data because
  they "owned" the cloud that the pvc ran through.  He
  said that it was a
  point to point connection and therefore not over a
  shared network. All
  of our connections are setup using sub-interfaces
  and point to point. I
  still thought that it was over a shared network.
  This did not make a
  lot of sense to me.
 
  Any help would be appreciated.  Any links to good
  documentation would be
  helpful as well.
 
  Thanks,
  John
 
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Re: classless to classfull routing issue

2001-03-07 Thread EA Louie

yes, but only if you had the available subnets in the 192.168.113.x,
192.168.114.x , and 192.168.115.x range.  (You can't use the subnets that
are already defined by OSPF)  What you really want is to have are those
particular routes with the proper masks advertised throughout the IGRP
network.  Thus, if the subnets were indeed available... you could on the
IGRP router define

ip subnet-zero
interface loopback1
ip address 192.168.113.1 255.255.255.192
interface loopback2
ip address 192.168.114.1 255.255.255.128
interface loopback3
ip address 192.168.115.1 255.255.255.240

router ospf 1
yada yada yada

router igrp 1
redistribute ospf 1 metric metrics metrics metrics
network 192.168.113.0
network 192.168.114.0
network 192.168.115.0

which would then define the fixed mask length for those networks in the IGRP
AS, same as the static routes would do.

- Original Message -
From: Curtis Call [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: classless to classfull routing issue


 Once solution would be to define multiple subinterfaces with the
respective
 /28, /26, and /25 network masks.  Classful protocols assume that the
subnet
 mask being used on the router is the subnet mask that a protocol update is
 using as well, if there is no matching mask they default to the standard
 classful network mask.  So putting these other netmasks on the router
 should fix the problem since then the router will know which updates
belong
 in which subnet.  I haven't tried it, but it seems like it would work to
me :-)

 At 01:45 AM 3/7/01, you wrote:
 you'll just have to use the 24 bit masks that are default in the IGRP
 routing protocol.   Or establish and redistribute static routes into your
 IGRP routing process.
 
 see http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/52.html for some other direction
 
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   Hi Guys
  
I was trying to redistribute from OSPF Domain ( has variable subnets
 ,/24,
   /28 , /26   /25 ) to IGRP domain ( /24 ) , i got severe masking issue
as
   IGRP is classfull and i could able to redistribute only /24 subnets .I
was
   trying to implement summary address with /24  towards IGRP but i could
not
   able to summarize the subnets.
  
   OSPF subnets -  192.168.112.0/24
 192.168.113.192/26
 192. 168.114.128/25
  192.168.115. 240/28
  
  
  
   IGRP subnet   - 192.168.110.0/24
192.168.111.0/24
  
  
  
   What is the elegant way to solve this problem
  
  
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Re: [Re: Question on HSRP]

2001-03-06 Thread EA LOUIE

Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 06:07 PM 3/6/01, NetEng wrote:
 Does HSRP work at the interface level or is the entire router on
 acvtive/stand-by? In other words, if I have two routers working in HSRP
and
 a link goes down somewhere down the line, will the first router know to
 fail-over to the second router (with a good link)?

HSRP works at the interface level by definition.  It is configured at the
interface level, too.

If a link goes down "somewhere down the line", that is NOT a function of HSRP
failover.  However, if a directly connected link fails, it CAN switch itself
to another standby router.  Here are your HSRP failover parameters:

1.  Loss of direct interface - all traffic is shifted to another standby
interface.

2.  Loss of interface(s) directly attached in that router (by use of the
"standby track interface" command - HSRP can track multiple interfaces
simultaneously

3.  HSRP does NOT disable the primary IP address on a standby interface, nor
does it squelch routing updates from those interfaces.  All HSRP interfaces
are ALWAYS live on their primary IP address.  Therefore, it's conceivable that
rerouting could occur if a downstream path were broken and you had multiple
default gateway addresses programmed on your hosts.  However, enabling HSRP
also DISABLES ICMP redirects (to prevent routing loops... ha-ha-ha-ha) and you
can't run it with Proxy ARP, so you end up having to make a decision about how
best to enable redundancy/failover on your network.


 
 Interesting question. The first router would have to lose its connectivity 
 to the second router. Routers that are running HSRP send and receive 
 multicast UDP-based hello packets to detect router failure and to designate

 active and standby routers. HSRP detects when the designated active router 
 fails because of the lack of hello packets, at which point a selected 
 standby router assumes control of the Hot Standby group's MAC and IP 
 addresses. A new standby router is also selected at that time.
 
 Remember HSRP stands for Hot Standby Router Protocol, not Hot Standby 
 Routing protocol. It's the default router for LAN devices that's on 
 standby. If you think of HSRP as a routing protocol, then you will tend to 
 think it does more than it does. I think to solve your problem you need a 
 "real" routing protocol, although without more info, it's hard to say for 
 sure.

BTW, nothing throws off HSRP worst than losing connectivity between the
standby interfaces when they're still all active.  Dynamic routing tables go
berserk, because they receive the same routing update from two different
sources and that sometimes starts the asymmetric routing dance.


 
 Priscilla
 
   I have one router
 connected to one ISP and a second router connected to a second ISP. Can
 these routers be run in HSRP or must they be running in parallel and let a
 dynamic routing protocol (BGP on the outside and let's say EIGRP on the
 inside) decide? TIA.
 
 
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