RE: whats the difference [7:21195]
My recommendation for a primary study source for CCIE written would be the Caslow book. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=21201&t=21195 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Book club [7:6811]
I had a little trouble with the "tcbc" part of booksonline, but I called (317) 541-8920 and they got everything strightened out to my satisfaction. --Original Message-- From: "Michael L. Williams" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: June 4, 2001 1:00:30 PM GMT Subject: Re: Book club [7:6811] Agreed. avoid "Library of Computer and Information Sciences".. they lost one of my orders. never billed me twice, but sent "selections of the month" that I clearly declined. I've e-mailed them asking how to end my membership (because their website says nothing about it that I can find), and I haven't heard back from them.. Mike W. "Georgescu, Aurelian" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Make sure you don't subscribe to "Library of Computer & Information > Sciences" > (http://lcis.booksonline.com/cgi-bin/ndCGI.exe/Develop/pagHome?clubId=LCI&pr > omo=bhp-1-2) > They are the worst! They lose your order, bill you twice and have no > customer support!! > > -Original Message- > From: William E. Gragido [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:58 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Book club [7:6811] > > > yeah Carl, its www.booksonline.com/telecommunications > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > MIRSKY Carl > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:28 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Book club [7:6811] > > > A while back there was information posed on a book club where you could get > several CCIE books for like $10 and then only have to buy X books > afterwards. Does anyone have the name or URL for this? Thanks > > "Put yer seat belt on, I wanna try somethin'. I saw it in a cartoon once and > I'm pretty sure it'll work !" >, > /'^ ^' > ((o)-(o)) > --oOOO--(_)--OOOo- > Carl Mirsky CCNP, CCDP, SCSA, MCSE > Technical Solutions Architect > Covansys ( www.covansys.com ) > 1750 E. Golf Rd. #1100 > Schaumburg, IL 60173 > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ph: 847-969-3054 > .oooO > ( ) Oooo. > - (---( )--- > _) ) / >(_/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7120&t=6811 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE #7354 - for Jeff McCoy [7:3998]
Huh? For future reference, when someone achieves something significant, the correct response is "CONGRATULATIONS!". I don't know what our friend does for a living, but if I can pass the CCIE lab on the second try, I'll be very pleased with myself. --Original Message-- From: "Q" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 10, 2001 5:08:12 PM GMT Subject: Re: CCIE #7354 - for Jeff McCoy [7:3998] Yeah, but what do u do for a living? And do you have any real experience and to what extent? Survey says! Q "DUNG H. LE" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > May 7-8, 2001 - RTP Lab facility > > This was attempt 2. I changed my study habits from attempt 1, and therefore > testing technique, for my attempt 2 (you perform like you > practice..right?). It paid off. The change was to monotonously ping every > interface IP / IPX address from every router. I made a list of the addresses > and ran through all of them from every router. I believe this lack of > attention to detail is what did me in on attempt one. > > Time management was key. If I didn't know the config off the top of my > head, I skipped it. This allowed me to complete the entire day 1 portion 3 > hours early. I had 4 areas that I needed to think about, so I saved them > for last. I methodically approached each of the 4 areas, knocked out each > requirement, and had 1 hour left to do the testing above. My strategy was > that no matter what, I would take the last hour to test thoroughly, I just > happened to get my 4 items done. Day 2 was the same way...although only 3 > hours for the first part, I still had 45 minutes to test it all. > > Troubleshooting was by far the most nerve-racking experience. I had a > "trouble ticket" list and was told to find as many problems as I could and > document/fix them (one liners). Unexpectedly I had to troubleshoot a > different network than the one I had spent a day and a half configuring. 3 > hours was the time limit to learn a new topology, IP scheme, protocol > intent, and then fix as much as possible. I don't feel like I was ready for > this, and must have just kept calm enough to manage it. > > The waiting is a nerve killer. You wait before the lab starts about an hour > for everything and everyone to get ready. You wait all night long for > status on day 1's score. You wait after day 2 build out...1.5 hours for > me to find out if you made it to troubleshooting. Then you wait while > they add up the points and spit a number out of the computer or not. > Howard was the best!!! Comic relief goes a long way to ease my stress, > and he delivered. I was very comfortable in the RTP environment. > > Study material used / frequency: > Caslow 2nd edition - read it cover to cover once. > Ccbootcamp labs - practiced daily (almost and minus weekends) for 4 > months 4-6 hours per day on a rack of equipment that was very similar to > the real thing. I was very comfortable with what was required of me for day > 1 and 2 build out. In retrospect I would have practiced a bit more on > troubleshooting. I was not comfortable with this at all and could have used > some familiarity with strategy and tactic on this part. > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=4075&t=3998 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Change EIGRP routing path [7:1048]
I was tempted to call him a SAGE, but that would mean he doesn't do Ethernet! --Original Message-- From: "Chuck Larrieu" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 18, 2001 4:38:20 AM GMT Subject: RE: Change EIGRP routing path [7:1048] Best to modify the interface bandwidth parameter. Don't think you want to be messing with the EIGRP default metrics. Btw, to quote a sage, what problem are you trying to solve? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dove Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Change EIGRP routing path [7:1048] Hi all, My network is running EIGRP routing protocol. I want to force the routing path so that the routing will not go through the shortest path (e.g. force the route from "R1" to "R3" which must go through "R2" and "R4"). What is the proper way to do so? Should I change the parameter "BANDWIDTH", "DELAY" or others? R1 10 R2 | | | | 10 10 | | R3 10 R4 Thanks. dovelet FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=1097&t=1048 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP clarification
It reminds me more of "Life of Brian", where Brian tells the multitude "You're all individuals! You're all different!" A single voice in the crowd replies "I'm not". --Original Message-- From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 29, 2001 6:30:18 PM GMT Subject: Re: EIGRP clarification >Look at all those routing technologies - they are all different; >except *that* one, it's the same... > >Z Are you quoting Yakov Rekhter: "at a sufficiently high level, everything is the same?" Not sure I follow your point. > >>From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: EIGRP clarification >>Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:19:21 -0500 >> >>>Preparing for my BSCN exam, I have found myself unclear as to whether or >>>not EIGRP is in fact a Hybrid or Distance-Vector protocol. All the Cisco >>>classes I've been too have always referred to EIGRP as a Balanced Hybrid >>>protocol, now studying for my CCNP, I am finding EIGRP referred to as a >>>Distance-vector protocol???...How is this possible? Thanks... >> >> >> From a technical standpoint, EIGRP is emphatically distance vector. >> From a marketing standpoint, Cisco has called it "hybrid," which has >>no accepted technical meaning. Training and certification have picked >>up that terminology. >> >>"Hybrid" is an attempt to differentiate EIGRP, and its DUAL >>algorithm, from the problems of first and second generation DV >>protocols. JJ Garcia-Luna-Aceves, the inventor of DUAL, always has >>called it an advanced DV protocol, and he continues to work on even >>more advanced DV. >> >>There's nothing inherently wrong with DV. EIGRP legitimately has >>fixed some of the problems of earlier DV protocols, such as the lack >>of a hello subprotocol and reliable update mechanism. Without these >>mechanisms, periodic update becomes necessary, and the protocol can't >>be loop-free. >> >>Calling something "hybrid" is about as sensible as saying "route bad, >>switch good," or "all animals are equal, but some are more equal than >>others." _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Here's an easy one
I'm sure the group will tell me if I put my foot in my mouth, but: Multicast *destination* MAC addresses start with 01-00-5E --Original Message-- From: "Williamson, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 23, 2001 3:23:34 PM GMT Subject: Here's an easy one Ok so we know how to convert a multicast ip into a mac, how about the reverse. I got a syslog message that made me curious:- "invalid traffic from multicast source address 0f:37:59:6f:df:0d" and i thought well i wonder what ip address that would be but i couldn't figure out the first octet. Should all multicast mac addresses start with 01-00-5e ?? Is this mac address invalid ? Anyone ? Thanks -Paul PLEASE READ: The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not an intended recipient of this email you must not copy, distribute or take any further action in reliance on it and you should delete it and notify the sender immediately. Email is not a secure method of communication and Nomura International plc cannot accept responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of this message or any attachment(s). Please check this e-mail for virus infection, for which Nomura International plc accepts no responsibility. If verification of this email is sought then please request a hard copy. Unless otherwise stated any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not represent those of Nomura International plc. This email is intended for informational purposes only and is not a solicitation or offer to buy or sell securities or related financial instruments. Nomura International plc is regulated by the Securities and Futures Authority Limited and is a member of the London Stock Exchange. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE R&S Going to be Replaced..!!
You mean the same as a duck. --Original Message-- From: "Rodgers Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 14, 2001 6:02:58 AM GMT Subject: Re: CCIE R&S Going to be Replaced..!! Witches or not, think about this. Cisco is end of lifing the 2500 series this year. So it is reasonable to expect that all of the routers in the lab will be 2600, 3600, and maybe 7200 series sometime this year. Now if you were to add in VIC's,WIC's and VWIC's the lab could get real interesting Remember that just because the route floats doesn't mean it's made of wood. If it weighs the same as a goose, then it's made of wood and of course, then it is a witch. Rodgers Moore "Danial wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > dear group > > I have heard a news abt the format of the CCIE R&S > exam is going to be changed in the next two months or > so.Is that right? > > Danial > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Written Tomorrow..
Ryan, You know what you need to know - noe it's up to them to ask the right questions. Good Luck --Original Message-- From: "Sheahan, Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: January 26, 2001 4:27:49 PM GMT Subject: Written Tomorrow.. Group, With my written getting closer every minute, (just over 25 hours away) I am starting to get a little nervous. Any last minute suggestions from others who have gone before me? Any tribal chants I should try? I am confident in my studies but this is the "big one". Dazed and confused Ryan Sheahan CCNP,CCDP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Propagation speed is NOT the speed of light
Okay. Make that "Since the speed of electrons through CAT 5 cable at a given emf is constant". --Original Message-- From: "Jonathan Hays" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 23, 2001 5:45:30 PM GMT Subject: Propagation speed is NOT the speed of light Was "Re: FWD: RE: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU" >At 03:37 PM 1/22/01, Jack Williams wrote: > >>The propagation delay for Ethernet must not be greater than 512 bit times or >>you'll get late collisions (as Tim said). Since the speed of light is >>constant and 10-baseT bits last 10 times longer than 100-baseT bits, that >>directly influences how long of a cable you can run! >> > >That sounded like Nonsense, didn't it? The technological myth that electrons propagate at the speed of light is certainly false. Electronic drift is a fraction of the speed of light (in a vacuum = approximately 300 million meters per second) and is on the order of centimeters or meters per second , depending on the electronic pressure through the wire (aka, "voltage"). Some of the more knowledgeable may be shocked (pun intended) to learn that even electronic signal propagation (not the same as actual movement of electrons through a wire) proceeds at far below the speed of light in a vacuum, some say half the speed, other sources claim one-fifth the speed, and of course this does not take into account line impedance, heating effects, etc. Jonathan _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FWD: RE: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU
Brian, You don't have to prove it to me. After reading a couple of explanations that framed the header size as the constant (as opposed to the bit times) it was a little easier to see how they got the wording for B. I certainly wasn't disputing the relationship to the cable diatmeter. Thanks for the input, though! --Original Message-- From: "Brian Lodwick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 22, 2001 10:30:31 PM GMT Subject: Re: FWD: RE: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU Well answer B is correct. The diameter of the network is in fact 10 times smaller than 10Mb/sec. This is because the 802 committee wanted to keep CSMA/CD. I don't see how it can be disputed the cable diameter is 10 times smaller on Fast Ethernet than regular 10baseT. Full Duplex is the same way it looks for collisions (smart). Proof: go to this link and go to 100BaseT Operation. http://www.ieng.com/cpress/cc/td/cpress/fund/ith2nd/it2407.htm#xtocid2172310 >>>Brian >From: Jack Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Jack Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: FWD: RE: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:37:45 -0500 (EST) > >I didn't care much for either of those choices. > >The propagation delay for Ethernet must not be greater than 512 bit times >or >you'll get late collisions (as Tim said). Since the speed of light is >constant and 10-baseT bits last 10 times longer than 100-baseT bits, that >directly influences how long of a cable you can run down and back! > >That sounded like Nonsense, didn't it? > >--Original Message-- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Metz) >To: Alvarado Jesus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: January 22, 2001 7:43:48 PM GMT >Subject: RE: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU > > >It's B. > >I think we just had this discussion not too long ago, it was quite a long >thread with a lot of discussion on slot time (or the Cisco equiv term). > >Tim > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Alvarado Jesus > > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 8:11 PM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU > > > > > > The network span of a 100Base-T Network (205) meters is approx. 10 times > > smaller than the network span of a 10Base-T network (2500) meters >Because > > > > > > A) , Higher speed data signals attenuate more quickly and so cannot be > > transmitted that far > > > > > > B) . Both Networks have minimum frame sizes of 64 bytes and the network > > spans must be tied directly to the minimum frame transmission > > time to avoid > > collisions. > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FWD: RE: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU
I didn't care much for either of those choices. The propagation delay for Ethernet must not be greater than 512 bit times or you'll get late collisions (as Tim said). Since the speed of light is constant and 10-baseT bits last 10 times longer than 100-baseT bits, that directly influences how long of a cable you can run down and back! That sounded like Nonsense, didn't it? --Original Message-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Metz) To: Alvarado Jesus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: January 22, 2001 7:43:48 PM GMT Subject: RE: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU It's B. I think we just had this discussion not too long ago, it was quite a long thread with a lot of discussion on slot time (or the Cisco equiv term). Tim > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Alvarado Jesus > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 8:11 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: EASY ?? FOR MOST OF YOU > > > The network span of a 100Base-T Network (205) meters is approx. 10 times > smaller than the network span of a 10Base-T network (2500) meters Because > > > A) , Higher speed data signals attenuate more quickly and so cannot be > transmitted that far > > > B) . Both Networks have minimum frame sizes of 64 bytes and the network > spans must be tied directly to the minimum frame transmission > time to avoid > collisions. > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
