Re: BSCN
I'm studying for Routing as well. I don't have the ISBNs for these, but if you want a good understanding of the material you should pick up Bassam Halabi's Internet Routing Architecture, and Jeff Doyle's Routing TCP/IP. I'm presently working my way through the Doyle book, and find the reading both easy and informative. I've started Halabi's book and I'm a bit lost with all the NAP's and NSF's of the overview, but it seems to be just as informative. I think these are probably two very good texts to read. I do plan on getting the Cisco Press BSCN book just to fill in any gaps for the exam. Good luck. ~Seth~ - Original Message - From: "Mathias Kenfack-Tabakem" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 2:29 PM Subject: BSCN Hi guys, I need your help. I'll will be taking the BSCN sometimes in Feb. this year. Could you please advise me on which preparation kit to use? Has anyone used CCNP: Routing Study Guide by Todd Lammle, Sean Odom, Kevin Wallace ISBN: 0782127126 ? if yes how do you rate it ? Thanks in advance. Mathias _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP-BCMSN
Chan, It's been quite a while since I've taken BCMSN, but I don't believe there were any fill-in-the-blank CLI questions, though I believe there were a few multiple-choice ones. VLANs and VTP operations, spanning-tree and MLS were covered pretty thoroughly on the exam. I recall few to zero questions about HSRP, and very little on multicasting, though you should be familiar with the basic operations and commands associated with each. There is the usual product selection associated with all the CCNP exams. In addition, there are quite a few management and troubleshooting questions about LEDs, configuring the switch, etc. Overall not too difficult an exam if you read through it carefully. Good luck. ~Seth~ - Original Message - From: "Chiao Liang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 6:40 AM Subject: CCNP-BCMSN Hi all Like to find out from u guy about the exam, will there be lot of CLI config command being tested. Any advise for the paper as well. Thank Chan CCNA , CCDA _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP-BCMSN - I goofed
I don't know where my brain is today, for some reason I was thinking that the CLI was the command set associated with the low-end switches. You WILL need a pretty extensive knowledge of CLI commands for fill-in-the-blanks, as well as some router config commands. The IOS switch commands are the ones that are covered less thoroughly. If you don't have access to a 5xxx switch, like I didn't, do a lot of lookup on CCO about the commands, and make yourself some flash cards with the commands, syntax and examples. That's what I did anyway, and it paid off. I actually prefer fill-in-the-blank questions to murky multiple-choice ones. Anyway, good luck, and sorry for the screw-up. ~Seth~ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how useful are instructor-led classes?
Hey everyone, I must appologize for being such a lurker and only posting sporatically at best. Anyway, as of Friday (passed BCRAN) I'm halfway through my CCNP, and plan on knocking out BSCN and CIT in the next couple of months. I'm kind of looking ahead, though, to trying to prepare for the mammoth CCIE Written and, possibly, the CCIE lab sometime in the future. I have a few routers in a lab here at home (a 2501, an ancient 3801 and a 766 although I don't have ISDN) and a 1900 Catalyst. I do some work in the field, but mostly it's with smaller access routers, I think a 2610 was the largest I've gotten to configure. I live in a pretty rural area, so the ISPs are the only places that really have the kind of stuff needed for more advanced experience. So, what I'm basically wondering is, if and when I do get to preparing for the CCIE, if I'm better off paying to rent a lab for a day and struggling with pre-written labs to try to do. OR, taking one or more of Cisco's instructor-led courses. I'm sure there's a hefty price tag on them, but as I'm visually impaired I THINK I can get them paid for. The disability does have its perks. Anyway, any input from someone who's taken any of these classes, as well as plain old CCIE written/lab study tips, would be appreciated. Thanks. ~Seth~ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco to 3Com Dot1Q trunks and VLANs
If memory serves me correctly, Cisco doesn't support per-VLAN STP in 802.1q, at least not when the trunk is connected to non-Cisco devices. The Cisco devices will still keep a per-VLAN spanning tree. ~Seth~ - Original Message - From: "Lance Hubbard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:58 PM Subject: Re: Cisco to 3Com Dot1Q trunks and VLANs This brings to mind a question for the group: Will Cisco's 802.1Q implementation support per-VLAN STP? Cheers, Lance From: "Chris H" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Chris H" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco to 3Com Dot1Q trunks and VLANs Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:41:55 - Michale, I have dot1q trunks running across Cisco MDF switches and Nortel IDF switches. We found that Cisco and Nortel run two different versions of Spanning Tree, both of which are 802.1q compliant. The difference between the two is that Cisco's portfast feature, and Nortel's faststart feature are different, where portfast has a default forward delay of 15 seconds, and faststart doesn't implement the forward delay feature. This resulted in a huge amount of TCN's (topology change notifications), particularly in the morning, when all end users are booting up their pc's and changing to 'forwarding' mode in spanning tree. As a result, we opened a ticket with Nortel, and they agreed to add forward delay to their switching code to correct this problem. I would check the STP documentation on both vendors, and determine if all the default values are the same, what the default root bridge priority number is with both vendors, who you have configured as your root bridge, etc. I would even plug a sniffer in and capture some traffic... Draw out a spanning tree diagram, and document your root bridge, and the subsequent switches in the spanning tree. Those are just some suggestions... Hope you find some results. Chris From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco to 3Com Dot1Q trunks and VLANs Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:02:56 -0600 I have the opportunity to create this cross platform network and am looking for information other than the standard documentation from Cisco and 3Com to accomplish this task. The dot1Q trunks appear to be functioning correctly between the Cisco 6509 and the 3Com 3300, but the VLANs are not performing optimally. Any helpful information or pointers to sites with information would be greatly appreciated. Mike _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is a Cisco 3801?
Well, I wouldn't say it's entirely useless as a lab machine, I guess it depends on what level of labs you plan on doing. I have one and it was great for my CCNA, along with a 2501 (a must have). The 3801 has a slow Ethernet connection, two synchronous serial lines, and a T1 controller line, as well as (I believe) a couple POTS lines, not sure though. The last IOS version that was released for the thing was 11.3(18) or something, and so you've got some limitations there. As I find myself preparing for the BSCN exam I'm finding more and more limitations. It's a little irregular in the way it interacts with EIGRP and other routing protocols. Anyway, if you can get one at a cheap price it wouldn't be too bad for a beginning lab. - Original Message - From: "Nick Brooks" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 4:00 PM Subject: Re: What is a Cisco 3801? the 3801 was the first conception of the 3810. avoid this at any cost. Albert Lu wrote: Hi all, I've been doing some research on the 3801, I don't think Cisco even knows it has it. I just wanted to know what sort of router it is, and what it is capable of. Is it worth getting for a home lab? Regards, Albert _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boson and BCMSN
Well, yes and no... I just passed BCMSN the other day, and I used Boson along with the Karen Webb book and the CCIE LAN Switching book. The Boson questions are good and overall are more difficult than the questions on the exam. They make you delve deeper into some of the areas and make you really think about the stuff. However, the questions for the most part were nothing like the test questions--the test seemed a lot more tilted towards people with hands-on experience, asking what different LEDs and colors signified which events, etc. Overall the test was easy, and with Boson you will probably pass. Experience is the key though. Of course, I only had Boson's BCMSN test #1, perhaps test #2 is different. Anyway, long answer to a short question, hope that helps. Good luck on the exam. ~Seth~ Has anyone had success with Boson tests and BCMSN 640-504?? Thanks for any insight or feedback _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
passed BCMSN today
Hey guys, For the most part I've been lurking on this list, but I thought I'd thank everyone for all the good input and conversation that goes on here, and to give anyone who hasn't taken the test yet an idea of what it's like. I scored an 846, 699 is passing, I found the test to be fairly easy and I probably would've scored higher if I had taken my time on it, I was ready to get it over with and pretty much flew through the test. Here's a general breakdown of what I encountered: - A healthy dose of "select the best switch for..." questions, with tiny scenarios and a choice of switches that would best suit the application. - Some general switch management stuff, like setting a switch's IP address, port duplex, etc. - Lots of trunking questions; rules for encapsulation and negotiation, problems that can occur with trunks, etc. - VTP modes, know these fairly well. - Spanning tree port states and timers, as well as spanning tree optimization such as PortFast and UplinkFast, root bridge selection, etc. - Some general MLS stuff, nothing too difficult, mostly multiple-choice commands. - Very little multicast stuff. Nature of multicasts, IP-MAC address translation, CGMP, very little PIM. - Know the rules that apply when connecting switches: port speeds, link lights, etc. - No HSRP questions at all. - No LANE/ATM. Anyway, I hope whoever is planning on taking the test in the near future finds this helpful. Thanks again for some of the good information I've garnered from this list. Now on to BCRAN I suppose. Good luck to everyone in their certification endeavors. ~Seth~ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multicast and BCSMN
I just took the BCMSN exam today and it was very light on multicasting. They had some basic questions on the nature of multicasts, IP/MAC conversion, CGMP, and maybe one or two on IGMP and PIM. Nothing about Auto-RP, DVMRP, not even anything on sparse or dense mode and distribution trees. I did feel like the Karen Webb book, in conjunction with the couple routers I have here at my home lab, gave me a pretty good understanding of how multicast works and the basics of using PIM. As with all else though, I'm sure real-world experience does more good than anything; I've never worked with actual multicast applications and streams. Hope that helps, good luck. ~Seth~ Hello: How deep do you see Multicast in BCSMN classes ? Does BCSMN study provide strong enough knowledge in Multicast ? Thanks, Billy _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATM/LANE information for BCMSN
hey everyone, In reading through the lists's messages over the past few weeks I came across a post claiming that the Switching 2.0 did have a couple of ATM questions but that--as I noticed--the BCMSN course manual does not cover the material. Where should I look to fill in these knowledge gaps? Cisco manuals for the 5000 switches? Also, can anyone give me some specifics I need to know about MLS? It's my weakest area at this point. Thanks in advance. ~Seth~ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
assorted BCMSN questions
hey everyone, In reading through the lists's messages over the past few weeks I came across a post claiming that the Switching 2.0 did have a couple of ATM questions but that--as I noticed--the BCMSN course manual does not cover the material. Where should I look to fill in these knowledge gaps? Cisco manuals for the 5000 switches? Also, can anyone give me some specifics I need to know about MLS? It's my weakest area at this point. Also, the Cisco Press book and/or the ExamCram book mentions that you use a standard IP access list to definie multiple multicast groups when configuring PIM, but I didn't see an example of exactly how the list is set up. Anyone have an example list handy, or know where I can find one? Thanks in advance. :) ~Seth~ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Access list
Incidentally, I have read somewhere--possibly this list--that the McGraw Hill book contains almost all the material necessary to pass the CCNP Security specialization exam. The only exam material that isn't covered in the book is PIX firewall information. Just what I've heard. ~Seth~ CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I, CNE The McGraw-Hill book Bob T mentioned, I have read it and like it a lot. It covers a lot of ground -- access lists and related stuff, and it is concise and readable and has lots of examples in it. Highly recommended. About $29US. Bob W. Recent CCNA/CCDA **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study Materials for CCNP 2.0 Track?
Hi Tracy, I'm just starting to study for my CCNP as well. I believe--someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--that all the books for the CCNP 2.0 are available save for the BSCN (Building Scalable Cisco Networks) which corresponds to the Routing 2.0 exam. I'm presently studying for the Switching 2.0 exam, and the BCMSN (Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks) Cisco Press book is available for that for certain. I believe the BCRAN and CIT books are also available though. Best of luck. ~Seth~
Re: ftp out
Just tried this with my home lab which has a couple of routers and subnets on it. I'm not sure if the ftp-data port is necessary. The list seemed to do its job though. Extended IP access list 169 permit tcp any any eq ftp established permit tcp any any eq ftp-data established deny tcp any any eq ftp deny tcp any any eq ftp-data permit ip any any ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Question regarding CCNA
I just started studying CCNA, can i get some advice?? what should i be focus on when i study? thxHi Jimmy, I tookthe CCNA a couple months ago. Although I took the 1.0 exam, by most accounts the 2.0 seems to cover most of the same things, with some additions. But these basic thingsprobably haven't changed much: - Subnetting, know it cold. As a veteran of several other certification tracks, I wouldn't rate Cisco's subnetting questions as too very difficult, but you do need to know your stuff. - Access Lists (ACLs): Any syntax questions are fair game on the exam, expect them. You should definitely know what range of ACLs goes with which protocol (i.e. 100-199 are extended IP). Know how ACLs handle wildcard masks. Remember as much of the syntax as you can, especially for IP ACLs, it's pretty unlikely that you'll get any complex esoteric ones like IPX, but it is possible. - Know basic switching functions, know how switching works, the different methods of switching (store-and-forward and cut-through) and know what switching accomplishes (breaks up broadcast domains). - Know the differences between the two routing algorhythms, distance-vector and linked-state, as well as hybrid. Especially know some of the methods that distance vector uses to overcome its limitations, such as split horizon and route poisoning. Also know what routing protocols are examples of each method, and know the basics of each protocol; like the rate at which they exchange routes, etc. RIP and IGRP were the ones I remember seeing most. - Know all the WAN protocols, the terminology associated with each, and the way in which they work. Know the protocols associated with them, and know what general WAN technology they use (ie. circuit-switched vs. packet switched). Also know some of the basic router commands for implementing the WAN protocols. - Be comfortable with IOS. I would recommend finding access to a router for this one and poking around in it, or possibly a router simulation program, though I've never tried one. I know it sounds like a lot, but the test as a whole isn't that bad. If you study thoroughly you'll have no problem. I was quite nervous about the test, I had certified extensively in Microsoft and Novell, and had heard people say that the Cisco tests were much more challenging. And I'm finding that true with the CCNP exams. But for the CCNA you should have no problem as long as you learn your stuff. The New Riders book on the CCNA in my opinion had great practice questions at about the level of the actual test, including a couple straight from the test. Good luck studying, be sure to let everyone know when you pass. ~Seth~
Starting BCMSN - suggestions?
Hey everyone, Well, after a longer-than-intended respite after passing my CCNA, I plan on going after the CCDA and starting on my CCNP tests. I'm working on the BCMSN now. I have the Cisco Press book for the course, written by a woman whose name escapes me at the moment. Just wondering if anyone can suggest any resources for this test, or can extemporize on what to expect on the exam. Many thanks in advance. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NetWare 5 Pure IP Login Across Subnets
We have a Netware 5 server -- IP plus IPX, for our CNE lab work -- whose IPaddress is 10.0.0.99 and a client -- IP only -- whose address is198.56.78.13. The server's subnet connects to E0 on a 2501 -- address10.0.0.2. The client's subnet connects to E0/0 on a 3801 -- address198.56.78.1. The 2501 and the 3801 are back-to-back and all machines acrossthe board can ping cleanly by name or address.When I move the client to the server's subnet and set its IP to 10.0.0.13,login works just fine. So login over IP is okay. But when it's on198.56.78.13, the client reports it can't find the tree or server. But asnoted, it can ping the server by name or address. So I conclude that theproblem is the broadcast that starts the login process.I set E0/0 on the 3801 to "ip helper-address 10.0.0.99" and still cannotlogin. From the packets I captured, it looks like the initial broadcast isNetBIOS Datagram Service, which I thought ought to be forwarded when the IPhelper-address is configured. I am getting a little out of my depth here ifyou haven't noticed.Can anybody suggest what else I need to do to get the routers to forwardthis IP Netware login broadcast?Thanks, ~Seth~
Re: Off topic - login the Win NT domain from different subnet ...
I'm not sure about Win95/98 clients, but here at home I have a lab with two Cisco routers and Windows NT on two different subnets, and as long as the WINS server is configured properly domain logins are seamless. Someone else posted almost the same question to the MCSE newsgroup a couple days ago, so I'm beginning to think you're right and that to provide support for Windows 98 clients you might need to enable the router to forward NetBIOS broadcasts, perhaps 9x's implementation of WINS isn't supported at login. You could either: 1) Place a Backup Domain Controller on the subnet with the Windows 98 client. The client should then authenticate without any problem. 2) As you said, configure the router to forward NetBIOS broadcasts. This can be done using the "ip helper" command on the 98 subnet's router interface. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Passed CCNA 1.0!
hey guys and gals, Well, passed my CCNA this morning. Showed up at the testing center and my internet registration hadn't gone through, and I was all pumped for the exam, so I had to do some running around to get re-registered, but that's another story. The exam itself I found surprisingly easy, compared with the depth with which I studied a lot of the material. I think I was making the test out to be worse than it was. I had 78 questions, and they were a pretty good spread. I had almost no questions on routing protocols. The test was probably strongest on OSI layers, bridging and switching, with subnetting ranking up there too. But no one area was extremely difficult. Anyway, I'm fairly new to this study group and haven't posted much, but I definitely appreciate the help and encouragement I've gotten. Guess I'm on to the ACRC exam. Speaking of which, can anyone suggest some good reading/study material for that exam? Thanks again, looking forward to all the exams to follow. ~Seth~ ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Troubleshooting
There are a couple programs that come with Windows NT Server Resource Kit that can be used to track down the master/backup browsers; seems to me though that there should be an easier way. If there are PCs involved, you might want to check their name resolution; name resolutio problems can cause some of these symptoms. If there's a WINS server configured, the machines should be set to H-node for resolving names. If you're not using WINS then they're seeing their neighbors using broadcasts, which could point back to your original switch problem. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA and subnetting questions
Hello everybody, Well, I'm taking a stab at the CCNA this Monday. I'm wondering if, for the purposes of the exam, that when you get subnetting questions whether you're supposed to assume that subnet-zero has been enabled or not. I just recently completed my MCSE, and with all the Microsoft tests the zero subnets cannot be used. But I've seen it both ways in studying for the CCNA. Thanks in advance. ~Seth~
