Re: How to attach tokenring HUB [7:19176]

[Tom Larus]

It's not a stupid question at all.  I have only had consistent success with
token ring once I started using IBM MAUs and Type 1 cable.  If you must use
Cat 5 or Cat 3 cable with RJ45 ends, then use an adapter that converts to
IBM type1 at the other end of the cable(that would be for going from IBM to
RJ-45, or, even better, get shielded cable that has RJ-45 at one end and
Type 1 big, ugly hermaphrodite plug at the other end.

This is not the first time I have seen this kind of question on this forum,
and I would appreciate someone explaining why the IBM stuff works so much
better.  Is it teh shielding?  Or is it that all the DB-9 to RJ-45 media
filters are screwed up?  (I did have some success when I made  direct attach
cables to connect workstations to my Catalyst 1800 token ring switch.)

Tom Larus
CCNP, MCSE (and passed CCIE written qualifier)
""Ahmed Mamoor Amimi""  wrote in message
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> Hi all,
> I know this is a stupid question but u guys have to answer.  I
> have 2502 and a SMC MAU and want to connect
> my 2502 with it but when i use a simple straigt cable to router and
MAU
> they both just tick and tick and router dont
> get into the ring should i have to use other cable or i have to
RING-IN
> the MAU with RING-OUT . but how is this
> done and to which port and what cable.
>
> -Mamoor




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Re: Opinions on Cisco Interactive Mentor [7:49137]

[Tom Larus]

Now is a great time to buy Cisco routers for a home lab, as the prices of
token ring routers must certainly be low now that token ring is going to be
taken off the Lab.  You can learn BGP just as well with token ring routers
as you can with ethernet.  You get two serial interfaces with a 2502, just
as you get with a 2501.  There is a lot that can be learned with these
serial interfaces.  Frame-relay with OSPF, IGRP, RIP, BGP, frame-relay
traffic shaping.  ISIS over frame-relay and the issues associated therewith.
With token ring, you still have the OSPF DR election issues that ethernet
will give you.  You still need to get experience with whatever ethernet
Catalyst will be used when you take the lab, so you will want to get at
least three ethernet routers, but using token ring in your lab can lower
your overall cost per router.

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From: "JAKE REYNOLDS" 
To: "'Christopher Supino'" ; ;

Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: Opinions on Cisco Interactive Mentor


> I've tried them before. Save your 100 bucks for a 25xx. They're not nearly
> close enough to the IOS for you to benefit from them CCIEwise. There are
no
> debugs and console messages. Most of the show commands are missing.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Supino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 2:59 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Opinions on Cisco Interactive Mentor
>
>
> All,
>
> Has anyone tried the CIM products? I was considering purchasing the BGP
CIM
> and wanted to get some feedback before making the investment.
>
> Chris
>
> Christopher Supino
> CCDP, CCNP, MCSE, Compaq ASE, CNA
> Senior Network Design Engineer
> TransNet Corp.
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