Re: Autonomous System number [7:752]

2001-04-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>To my knowledge, one place alone assigns them, and that's the ARIN.  US$500
>up front and US$30/year afterwards, plus you have to show justification
>(mutlihoming with two ISPs will do):
>
>http://arin.net/regserv.html

ARIN for the Americas. RIPE-NCC for Europe and APNIC for the Pacific 
Rim.  The African and Latin American registries are just getting 
started, so  I don't know if they are issuing them yet.

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>>  Hi All - In the real world, how should I obtain an "autonomous system"
>>  number?  Will I be assigned from some organization or I just make it up?
>  > Sorry for the so simple question!




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Re: Autonomous System number [7:752]

2001-04-16 Thread Jason J. Roysdon

To my knowledge, one place alone assigns them, and that's the ARIN.  US$500
up front and US$30/year afterwards, plus you have to show justification
(mutlihoming with two ISPs will do):

http://arin.net/regserv.html

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> Sorry for the so simple question!
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Re: Autonomous System number [7:752]

2001-04-16 Thread Jason J. Roysdon

I would recommend "Internet Routing Architectures," by Sam Halabi to anyone
planning to delve into BGP.

Quoting from the BGP Bible itself, Page 104, "Instead, the provider can give
the customer an AS number from the private pool of ASs (64512-65535)... as
described in RFC 2270."  RFC 2270 actually references RFC 1930 for the
private range:

"
   The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the
   following block of AS numbers for private use (not to be advertised
   on the global Internet):

   64512 through 65535
"

http://rfc.net/rfc2270.html
http://rfc.net/rfc1930.html

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> BTW, there are several "illegal" AS numbers that can be used, but like
> "private" IP address blocks, they aren't supposed to be routed on the
> Internet.  For the life of me, I don't recall the RFC that designates the
> numbers.
>
> Irwin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Subject: Re: Autonomous System number [7:752]
>
>
> >Hi All - In the real world, how should I obtain an "autonomous system"
> >number?  Will I be assigned from some organization or I just make it up?
> >Sorry for the so simple question!
>
>
> www.arin.net for the Americas
> www.ripe.net for Europe
> www.apnic.net for the Pacific rim
>
> If you are thinking of participating in global Internet routing, you
> really can't make up very much.  The AS number and address space will
> be assigned to you, and you will need to justify them.  You can then
> work out your own routing policy, which I strongly suggest you
> register.  Each of the address registries above maintains a routing
> registry (not sure about APNIC).
>
> Why do you need an AS? What problem will it solve?
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RE: Autonomous System number [7:752]

2001-04-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>BTW, there are several "illegal" AS numbers that can be used, but like
>"private" IP address blocks, they aren't supposed to be routed on the
>Internet.  For the life of me, I don't recall the RFC that designates the
>numbers.
>
>Irwin


RFC 1930, which reserved the top 8K but designated the topmost 1K for 
"private" use.

There are proposals making their way around the IETF for more 
systematized use of private AS in multihoming.  There also are 
proposals to create a 32-bit ASN.

>
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>From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:25 AM
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>Subject: Re: Autonomous System number [7:752]
>
>
>>Hi All - In the real world, how should I obtain an "autonomous system"
>>number?  Will I be assigned from some organization or I just make it up?
>>Sorry for the so simple question!
>
>
>www.arin.net for the Americas
>www.ripe.net for Europe
>www.apnic.net for the Pacific rim
>
>If you are thinking of participating in global Internet routing, you
>really can't make up very much.  The AS number and address space will
>be assigned to you, and you will need to justify them.  You can then
>work out your own routing policy, which I strongly suggest you
>register.  Each of the address registries above maintains a routing
>registry (not sure about APNIC).
>
>Why do you need an AS? What problem will it solve?
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RE: Autonomous System number [7:752]

2001-04-16 Thread Irwin Lazar

BTW, there are several "illegal" AS numbers that can be used, but like
"private" IP address blocks, they aren't supposed to be routed on the
Internet.  For the life of me, I don't recall the RFC that designates the
numbers.

Irwin

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>Hi All - In the real world, how should I obtain an "autonomous system"
>number?  Will I be assigned from some organization or I just make it up?
>Sorry for the so simple question!


www.arin.net for the Americas
www.ripe.net for Europe
www.apnic.net for the Pacific rim

If you are thinking of participating in global Internet routing, you 
really can't make up very much.  The AS number and address space will 
be assigned to you, and you will need to justify them.  You can then 
work out your own routing policy, which I strongly suggest you 
register.  Each of the address registries above maintains a routing 
registry (not sure about APNIC).

Why do you need an AS? What problem will it solve?
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RE: Autonomous System number [7:752]

2001-04-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Also, one thing that caught us off guard was that one of our providers
>  required us to register with RADB as well.

I know I was caught by this the first time I did it.  It is confusing 
that the organization that assigns the AS isn't necessarily the one 
that runs the associated routing registry, although that situation is 
smoothing out.

ARIN, the American Registry for Internet Numbers which assigns ASNs 
in the Americas, has an optional routing registry that participates 
in the RADB.

In Europe, however, I believe part of RIPE-NCC's requirements for 
obtaining an ASN requires that you register your policy in their 
registry. Again, their registry cooperates with RADB.

>
>  to leave some static route entry for us, which
>took priority over the BGP-provided route ... luckily we caught that before
>we had a occasion requiring a failover.>>
>
>
>Thanks!
>TJ
>
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>Subject:   Re: Autonomous System number [7:752]
>
>>Hi All - In the real world, how should I obtain an "autonomous system"
>>number?  Will I be assigned from some organization or I just make it up?
>>Sorry for the so simple question!
>
>
>www.arin.net for the Americas
>www.ripe.net for Europe
>www.apnic.net for the Pacific rim
>
>If you are thinking of participating in global Internet routing, you
>really can't make up very much.  The AS number and address space will
>be assigned to you, and you will need to justify them.  You can then
>work out your own routing policy, which I strongly suggest you
>register.  Each of the address registries above maintains a routing
>registry (not sure about APNIC).
>
>Why do you need an AS? What problem will it solve?
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RE: Autonomous System number [7:752]

2001-04-16 Thread Evans, TJ

Also, one thing that caught us off guard was that one of our providers
 required us to register with RADB as well.

 to leave some static route entry for us, which
took priority over the BGP-provided route ... luckily we caught that before
we had a occasion requiring a failover.>>


Thanks!
TJ

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Sent:   Monday, April 16, 2001 09:25
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Subject:    Re: Autonomous System number [7:752]

>Hi All - In the real world, how should I obtain an "autonomous system"
>number?  Will I be assigned from some organization or I just make it up?
>Sorry for the so simple question!


www.arin.net for the Americas
www.ripe.net for Europe
www.apnic.net for the Pacific rim

If you are thinking of participating in global Internet routing, you 
really can't make up very much.  The AS number and address space will 
be assigned to you, and you will need to justify them.  You can then 
work out your own routing policy, which I strongly suggest you 
register.  Each of the address registries above maintains a routing 
registry (not sure about APNIC).

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Re: Autonomous System number [7:752]

2001-04-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Hi All - In the real world, how should I obtain an "autonomous system"
>number?  Will I be assigned from some organization or I just make it up?
>Sorry for the so simple question!


www.arin.net for the Americas
www.ripe.net for Europe
www.apnic.net for the Pacific rim

If you are thinking of participating in global Internet routing, you 
really can't make up very much.  The AS number and address space will 
be assigned to you, and you will need to justify them.  You can then 
work out your own routing policy, which I strongly suggest you 
register.  Each of the address registries above maintains a routing 
registry (not sure about APNIC).

Why do you need an AS? What problem will it solve?




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Autonomous System number [7:752]

2001-04-15 Thread Thomas

Hi All - In the real world, how should I obtain an "autonomous system"
number?  Will I be assigned from some organization or I just make it up?
Sorry for the so simple question!




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