BCMSN Passed! [7:27086]
Well, I finally got all those silly MS tests out of the way (Upgrading to W2K MCSE), and finally got to re-focus on writing the Cisco Switching exam. Passed with decent marks too- 827. Anybody looking to know this baby out, you definitely need to know all of the topics listed in the Exam Objectives. If you absolutely can't get your hands on some Cisco Switches and a C4500 router, then your next best bet to get passed this beast, AND REALLY LEARN How to configure Cisco Switching - Invest in the Cisco CIM for Lan Switching. One thing though- Don't rely on it for MLS, as it doesn't even cover it :( For that, you'll just have to memorize the commands for configuring MLS, and all the associated config/hardware required for it. But, if you CAN get your hands on at least one IOS and one SET-based switch Do so, practice, practice, practice... and you'll ace this test easy. IMHO, Just the Cisco Press BCMSN book will not get MLS or Multicast in your brain to the level required to be proficient. I suggest reading, and then re-reading the Sybex BCMSN Study guide to help with this. Well, off to BCRAN by next Friday! Cheers and Happy ThanksGiving!! Mark Odette II StellarConnection Services Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=27086t=27086 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BCMSN passed [7:24533]
Thanks to everyone who answered some of my questions on the BCMSN, now its of to BSCN... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24533t=24533 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCMSN passed [7:24533]
Congratulations. I am taking BCMSN on Thursday. Passed BSCN already. Good luck. Brad Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=24555t=24533 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCMSN passed with 934, details inside
No I definately didn't have any in my exam, and I don't recall it in the course. "Wilson, Christian" wrote: I am looking at the exam outline, and it mentions DDR, LANE, and ATM. Is DDR really covered on this exam?? -Original Message- From: Robert O'Brien [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BCMSN passed with 934, details inside I found only limited product knowledge and a fair balance of spanning tree, VTP and Multi-cast. There was also a reasonably indepth dose on the MLS-SE and MLS-RP Hope this helps those yet to do the exam. By the way I was surprised with a result of 912 as I did not feel comfortable with my responses while doing the exam. Rob O'Brien Neal Rauhauser wrote: I took the BCMSN this afternoon and exited the testing center with a very surprising 934. Background: I have a couple of years time in grade with cat 19xx/28xx, about the same more recently with 29xx/35xx, and I once worked for three months on an incredibly psychotic Cat 5500 with 800 MACs in the cam and one subnet(!). I've also done one Cat 5500 + NFFC + RSM layer 3 deploy to an ISP with 40k worth of public IPs being routed through the switch. Study gear: I had two Cat 3524s running enterprise attached to a Cisco 2621 running 802.1Q VLANs in production at work. I had a loaner Cat 5000 with a Sup 1 and a ws-x5213 for the last few weeks of my studies. There was an idle 7206 in a remote facility that I used to brush up on mls rp commands. I did some multicast work with my 25xx collection at home. Study Materials: Didn't refer to Caslow once(!). The Cisco Press BCMSN book (only a few errors) and the official Cisco Press LAN switching were all I used. The LAN switching reference does an excellent job of covering some items that the BCMSN gives what I felt was a lightweight treatment. The boson.com pretests were *excellent* - my only gripe is that what is in boson's stuff is *way* harder than the real thing - I was getting mid 60% on the boson stuff and I thought I'd squeak by the exam ... the 934 was a huge surprise. What to watch for on the exam: I think the BCMSN question base is *very* broad. I've talked to folks that had to examine network sniffer traces and so forth and I saw none of that. The possible broadness being mentioned the details are ... Pound VTP operations into your head and do it twice for that stuff about version numbers. Use the same amount of effort on spanning tree and VLAN configuration issues. MLS is there but if you *understand* the BCMSN chapter on it and then read the Cisco Press LAN Switching you'll be fine. I am amazed at how little there was on multicast - knowing how to convert an IP address to a MAC address covered 50% of what I saw. This makes me think the exam question base is broad because I've talked to others who got a lot of multicast questions. I really got flogged on Cisco product line knowledge. I worked for an equipment dealership and I've troubleshot/tested/sold/refurbed everything Catalyst from 1912s to 65xx series include all of the layer 3 modules and I was streeetccchheddd by what the test wanted to know. I can eyeball a box full of Cat 5500/6500 cards and tell you part numbers and specs on them - I rarely need to refer to the fact Cisco product guide any more - and I was really reaching on some of this stuff. If my experience is represenative you should call 800-553-NETS and order DOC-CISCOCATALOG= and memorize the 55/6500 layer three stuff before approaching the exam. Well, thats all the wisdom I have to offer at the moment ... I am going to go pounce on CIT and see if I can be a CCNP by this time Friday .. I left the easiest exam for last :-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCMSN passed with 934, details inside
I found only limited product knowledge and a fair balance of spanning tree, VTP and Multi-cast. There was also a reasonably indepth dose on the MLS-SE and MLS-RP Hope this helps those yet to do the exam. By the way I was surprised with a result of 912 as I did not feel comfortable with my responses while doing the exam. Rob O'Brien Neal Rauhauser wrote: I took the BCMSN this afternoon and exited the testing center with a very surprising 934. Background: I have a couple of years time in grade with cat 19xx/28xx, about the same more recently with 29xx/35xx, and I once worked for three months on an incredibly psychotic Cat 5500 with 800 MACs in the cam and one subnet(!). I've also done one Cat 5500 + NFFC + RSM layer 3 deploy to an ISP with 40k worth of public IPs being routed through the switch. Study gear: I had two Cat 3524s running enterprise attached to a Cisco 2621 running 802.1Q VLANs in production at work. I had a loaner Cat 5000 with a Sup 1 and a ws-x5213 for the last few weeks of my studies. There was an idle 7206 in a remote facility that I used to brush up on mls rp commands. I did some multicast work with my 25xx collection at home. Study Materials: Didn't refer to Caslow once(!). The Cisco Press BCMSN book (only a few errors) and the official Cisco Press LAN switching were all I used. The LAN switching reference does an excellent job of covering some items that the BCMSN gives what I felt was a lightweight treatment. The boson.com pretests were *excellent* - my only gripe is that what is in boson's stuff is *way* harder than the real thing - I was getting mid 60% on the boson stuff and I thought I'd squeak by the exam ... the 934 was a huge surprise. What to watch for on the exam: I think the BCMSN question base is *very* broad. I've talked to folks that had to examine network sniffer traces and so forth and I saw none of that. The possible broadness being mentioned the details are ... Pound VTP operations into your head and do it twice for that stuff about version numbers. Use the same amount of effort on spanning tree and VLAN configuration issues. MLS is there but if you *understand* the BCMSN chapter on it and then read the Cisco Press LAN Switching you'll be fine. I am amazed at how little there was on multicast - knowing how to convert an IP address to a MAC address covered 50% of what I saw. This makes me think the exam question base is broad because I've talked to others who got a lot of multicast questions. I really got flogged on Cisco product line knowledge. I worked for an equipment dealership and I've troubleshot/tested/sold/refurbed everything Catalyst from 1912s to 65xx series include all of the layer 3 modules and I was streeetccchheddd by what the test wanted to know. I can eyeball a box full of Cat 5500/6500 cards and tell you part numbers and specs on them - I rarely need to refer to the fact Cisco product guide any more - and I was really reaching on some of this stuff. If my experience is represenative you should call 800-553-NETS and order DOC-CISCOCATALOG= and memorize the 55/6500 layer three stuff before approaching the exam. Well, thats all the wisdom I have to offer at the moment ... I am going to go pounce on CIT and see if I can be a CCNP by this time Friday .. I left the easiest exam for last :-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCMSN passed with 934, details inside
I am planning to take the test soon and wonder if you could answer a ? for me. Is the test specific on commands? Does it ask both Set/Clear and Cisco IOS commands? I only have access to 3548's and don't have any experience in Set/Clear (until my Cat4 is approved and purchased). Thanks. "Neal Rauhauser" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I took the BCMSN this afternoon and exited the testing center with a very surprising 934. Background: I have a couple of years time in grade with cat 19xx/28xx, about the same more recently with 29xx/35xx, and I once worked for three months on an incredibly psychotic Cat 5500 with 800 MACs in the cam and one subnet(!). I've also done one Cat 5500 + NFFC + RSM layer 3 deploy to an ISP with 40k worth of public IPs being routed through the switch. Study gear: I had two Cat 3524s running enterprise attached to a Cisco 2621 running 802.1Q VLANs in production at work. I had a loaner Cat 5000 with a Sup 1 and a ws-x5213 for the last few weeks of my studies. There was an idle 7206 in a remote facility that I used to brush up on mls rp commands. I did some multicast work with my 25xx collection at home. Study Materials: Didn't refer to Caslow once(!). The Cisco Press BCMSN book (only a few errors) and the official Cisco Press LAN switching were all I used. The LAN switching reference does an excellent job of covering some items that the BCMSN gives what I felt was a lightweight treatment. The boson.com pretests were *excellent* - my only gripe is that what is in boson's stuff is *way* harder than the real thing - I was getting mid 60% on the boson stuff and I thought I'd squeak by the exam ... the 934 was a huge surprise. What to watch for on the exam: I think the BCMSN question base is *very* broad. I've talked to folks that had to examine network sniffer traces and so forth and I saw none of that. The possible broadness being mentioned the details are ... Pound VTP operations into your head and do it twice for that stuff about version numbers. Use the same amount of effort on spanning tree and VLAN configuration issues. MLS is there but if you *understand* the BCMSN chapter on it and then read the Cisco Press LAN Switching you'll be fine. I am amazed at how little there was on multicast - knowing how to convert an IP address to a MAC address covered 50% of what I saw. This makes me think the exam question base is broad because I've talked to others who got a lot of multicast questions. I really got flogged on Cisco product line knowledge. I worked for an equipment dealership and I've troubleshot/tested/sold/refurbed everything Catalyst from 1912s to 65xx series include all of the layer 3 modules and I was streeetccchheddd by what the test wanted to know. I can eyeball a box full of Cat 5500/6500 cards and tell you part numbers and specs on them - I rarely need to refer to the fact Cisco product guide any more - and I was really reaching on some of this stuff. If my experience is represenative you should call 800-553-NETS and order DOC-CISCOCATALOG= and memorize the 55/6500 layer three stuff before approaching the exam. Well, thats all the wisdom I have to offer at the moment ... I am going to go pounce on CIT and see if I can be a CCNP by this time Friday .. I left the easiest exam for last :-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BCMSN passed with 934, details inside
I took the BCMSN this afternoon and exited the testing center with a very surprising 934. Background: I have a couple of years time in grade with cat 19xx/28xx, about the same more recently with 29xx/35xx, and I once worked for three months on an incredibly psychotic Cat 5500 with 800 MACs in the cam and one subnet(!). I've also done one Cat 5500 + NFFC + RSM layer 3 deploy to an ISP with 40k worth of public IPs being routed through the switch. Study gear: I had two Cat 3524s running enterprise attached to a Cisco 2621 running 802.1Q VLANs in production at work. I had a loaner Cat 5000 with a Sup 1 and a ws-x5213 for the last few weeks of my studies. There was an idle 7206 in a remote facility that I used to brush up on mls rp commands. I did some multicast work with my 25xx collection at home. Study Materials: Didn't refer to Caslow once(!). The Cisco Press BCMSN book (only a few errors) and the official Cisco Press LAN switching were all I used. The LAN switching reference does an excellent job of covering some items that the BCMSN gives what I felt was a lightweight treatment. The boson.com pretests were *excellent* - my only gripe is that what is in boson's stuff is *way* harder than the real thing - I was getting mid 60% on the boson stuff and I thought I'd squeak by the exam ... the 934 was a huge surprise. What to watch for on the exam: I think the BCMSN question base is *very* broad. I've talked to folks that had to examine network sniffer traces and so forth and I saw none of that. The possible broadness being mentioned the details are ... Pound VTP operations into your head and do it twice for that stuff about version numbers. Use the same amount of effort on spanning tree and VLAN configuration issues. MLS is there but if you *understand* the BCMSN chapter on it and then read the Cisco Press LAN Switching you'll be fine. I am amazed at how little there was on multicast - knowing how to convert an IP address to a MAC address covered 50% of what I saw. This makes me think the exam question base is broad because I've talked to others who got a lot of multicast questions. I really got flogged on Cisco product line knowledge. I worked for an equipment dealership and I've troubleshot/tested/sold/refurbed everything Catalyst from 1912s to 65xx series include all of the layer 3 modules and I was streeetccchheddd by what the test wanted to know. I can eyeball a box full of Cat 5500/6500 cards and tell you part numbers and specs on them - I rarely need to refer to the fact Cisco product guide any more - and I was really reaching on some of this stuff. If my experience is represenative you should call 800-553-NETS and order DOC-CISCOCATALOG= and memorize the 55/6500 layer three stuff before approaching the exam. Well, thats all the wisdom I have to offer at the moment ... I am going to go pounce on CIT and see if I can be a CCNP by this time Friday .. I left the easiest exam for last :-) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BCMSN - Passed
It wasn't prettybut the score was in my favor (715). Studied using the E-Learning BCMSN course from Cisco. Last night I saw a copy of Karen Webb's Cisco Press - "Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks" ISBN 1-57870-093-0 Published May 2000 and saw where most of the test questions came from!! (UpLink Fast not mentioned in E-Learning to my recollection) This book costs $60 and the E-Learning (discounted) was $500! Go figure. Onto BCRAN (using E-Learning and Catherine Paquet's Cisco Press book). Wouldn't it be nice to have lab equipment too?? Tim Weil Network Consultant EB Networks, Inc. Columbia, MD. email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (202) 205-2611 (800) 980-5086 - pager **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCMSN - Passed
Congrats! I feel books are a lot more complete than what you can learn with an elearning course. It is only part of what you need to learn. It is in effect ONE tool. Keeping also in mind that ONE book is never enough to learn. It is however sometimes enough to pass an exam but who on this list just want to "pass" an exam. We are here to know the stuff. CCO is in my opinion the best reference out there. It beats books. The drawback is that it provides tons and tons of information and you have to choose what you should read. But all the information is in there somewhere. There are also some good self test that can help you gage and I stress the word GAGE your knowledge in an area. It will help you know if you understand the subject as well as you think you understand it. And like me you are limited while you are studying with the hands-on. Virtual labs are a good tool, if you have the $ to practice. When I first started my Cisco cert. I did not know that it was possible to practice on the internet some of the stuff you learn in the books. I bought a couple of PC Bus cards to be able to practice my routing. It is definitely not enough but that is all I could afford. This list is also a good learning tool. Read, read, and read some more. Try to solve some of these problems that are presented on this list. It is amazing how you can learn. My point is: try to use all the resources available out there. It would be nice to have the LAB but you can learn to a certain level without the expansive lab at home. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It wasn't prettybut the score was in my favor (715). Studied using the E-Learning BCMSN course from Cisco. Last night I saw a copy of Karen Webb's Cisco Press - "Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks" ISBN 1-57870-093-0 Published May 2000 and saw where most of the test questions came from!! (UpLink Fast not mentioned in E-Learning to my recollection) This book costs $60 and the E-Learning (discounted) was $500! Go figure. Onto BCRAN (using E-Learning and Catherine Paquet's Cisco Press book). Wouldn't it be nice to have lab equipment too?? Tim Weil Network Consultant EB Networks, Inc. Columbia, MD. email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (202) 205-2611 (800) 980-5086 - pager **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
