RE: CCIE RS lab prep
I bit the bullet and can highly recommend the CCBootcamp labs. They, are a much better prep tool than the All-In-One Lab Study Guide. Louie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin Wigle Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 1:16 AM To: Belt, Louie; 'Rodgers Moore '; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE RS lab prep Which is why from what I have heard/read (and visiting the web site) that you should bite the bullet and buy the lab scenarios from Marc Russell. They have been argued as the best lab prep material for the very reason that they do get into the "large" scenarios. I haven't bought them yet but I will be in the early new year. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Belt, Louie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Rodgers Moore '" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 November, 2000 22:06 Subject: RE: CCIE RS lab prep The book's a farce for true CCIE lab prep. It is not in any way enough prep for the lab. It segment's everything into small portions, and gives you step by step intructions it never puts it all together (totally unlike the lab). Additionally, there is no bridging, DLSW+, voice, firewall feature sets,... It is woefully inadequate for use in CCIE prep. If you use this book as your main "lab prep" you will be in utter shock the day you step into the lab. Louie -Original Message- From: Rodgers Moore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/16/00 7:15 PM Subject: Re: CCIE RS lab prep I think that the most telling statement you've made is that Cisco knows about the book, and hence the lab proctors do too. So logically, this book alone will not be enough to pass the lab. Rodgers Moore "Chuck Church" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver">news:149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver... All, I was talking to a Cisco SE Tuesday and he mentioned that the All-In-One Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee was the book to use. Apparently many internal Cisco people in RTP use this book for preparation. I've ordered it, and am currently using the Doyle and Halabi books as well. Has anyone used this all in one guide to prepare? Was it useful? Also, I found out for sure there will be a small amount of voice on the test - FXS/FXO on a couple of routers. Any idea on where to start or what to read? Maybe some CCO URLs? TIA, Chuck Church RS Lab - Jan 12/13 RTP (AKA D-Day) CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE RS lab prep
Nevermind. found it. cciebootcamp.com or ccbootcamp.com On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Duane Morgan wrote: Marc Russell? more info, please? I'd search the website archives, but for some reason, it's not coming up in my browser for a few days now. On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, Kevin Wigle wrote: Which is why from what I have heard/read (and visiting the web site) that you should bite the bullet and buy the lab scenarios from Marc Russell. They have been argued as the best lab prep material for the very reason that they do get into the "large" scenarios. I haven't bought them yet but I will be in the early new year. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Belt, Louie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Rodgers Moore '" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 November, 2000 22:06 Subject: RE: CCIE RS lab prep The book's a farce for true CCIE lab prep. It is not in any way enough prep for the lab. It segment's everything into small portions, and gives you step by step intructions it never puts it all together (totally unlike the lab). Additionally, there is no bridging, DLSW+, voice, firewall feature sets,... It is woefully inadequate for use in CCIE prep. If you use this book as your main "lab prep" you will be in utter shock the day you step into the lab. Louie -Original Message- From: Rodgers Moore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/16/00 7:15 PM Subject: Re: CCIE RS lab prep I think that the most telling statement you've made is that Cisco knows about the book, and hence the lab proctors do too. So logically, this book alone will not be enough to pass the lab. Rodgers Moore "Chuck Church" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver">news:149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver... All, I was talking to a Cisco SE Tuesday and he mentioned that the All-In-One Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee was the book to use. Apparently many internal Cisco people in RTP use this book for preparation. I've ordered it, and am currently using the Doyle and Halabi books as well. Has anyone used this all in one guide to prepare? Was it useful? Also, I found out for sure there will be a small amount of voice on the test - FXS/FXO on a couple of routers. Any idea on where to start or what to read? Maybe some CCO URLs? TIA, Chuck Church RS Lab - Jan 12/13 RTP (AKA D-Day) CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE RS lab prep
All, I was talking to a Cisco SE Tuesday and he mentioned that the All-In-One Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee was the book to use. Apparently many internal Cisco people in RTP use this book for preparation. I've ordered it, and am currently using the Doyle and Halabi books as well. Has anyone used this all in one guide to prepare? Was it useful? Also, I found out for sure there will be a small amount of voice on the test - FXS/FXO on a couple of routers. Any idea on where to start or what to read? Maybe some CCO URLs? TIA, Chuck Church RS Lab - Jan 12/13 RTP (AKA D-Day) CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE RS lab prep
Yes the Hutnik book is a good one to incorporate. It covers quite a few areas of routing, and many labs can be done with only four routers. For voice stuff, at this point you may want to consider using Cisco Config Maker, put together some simple voice connections, and study the resulting IOS configurations. You can use both 26xx and 36xx routers. You can do a couple of decent things with it. If you check the CCIE certification page you will find a ton of good links, one of which is voice and multimedia. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html watch the wrap See you on the climb. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chuck Church Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 5:38 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:CCIE RS lab prep All, I was talking to a Cisco SE Tuesday and he mentioned that the All-In-One Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee was the book to use. Apparently many internal Cisco people in RTP use this book for preparation. I've ordered it, and am currently using the Doyle and Halabi books as well. Has anyone used this all in one guide to prepare? Was it useful? Also, I found out for sure there will be a small amount of voice on the test - FXS/FXO on a couple of routers. Any idea on where to start or what to read? Maybe some CCO URLs? TIA, Chuck Church RS Lab - Jan 12/13 RTP (AKA D-Day) CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE RS lab prep
ISBN # pleaseI want to look it up for myself...I think I have also heard good things about this book. Rick Watson Network Engineer OUSD(Comptroller) 703.697.5710 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chuck Church [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 8:38 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: CCIE RS lab prep All, I was talking to a Cisco SE Tuesday and he mentioned that the All-In-One Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee was the book to use. Apparently many internal Cisco people in RTP use this book for preparation. I've ordered it, and am currently using the Doyle and Halabi books as well. Has anyone used this all in one guide to prepare? Was it useful? Also, I found out for sure there will be a small amount of voice on the test - FXS/FXO on a couple of routers. Any idea on where to start or what to read? Maybe some CCO URLs? TIA, Chuck Church RS Lab - Jan 12/13 RTP (AKA D-Day) CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE RS lab prep
I think that the most telling statement you've made is that Cisco knows about the book, and hence the lab proctors do too. So logically, this book alone will not be enough to pass the lab. Rodgers Moore "Chuck Church" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver">news:149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver... All, I was talking to a Cisco SE Tuesday and he mentioned that the All-In-One Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee was the book to use. Apparently many internal Cisco people in RTP use this book for preparation. I've ordered it, and am currently using the Doyle and Halabi books as well. Has anyone used this all in one guide to prepare? Was it useful? Also, I found out for sure there will be a small amount of voice on the test - FXS/FXO on a couple of routers. Any idea on where to start or what to read? Maybe some CCO URLs? TIA, Chuck Church RS Lab - Jan 12/13 RTP (AKA D-Day) CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE RS lab prep
The book's a farce for true CCIE lab prep. It is not in any way enough prep for the lab. It segment's everything into small portions, and gives you step by step intructions it never puts it all together (totally unlike the lab). Additionally, there is no bridging, DLSW+, voice, firewall feature sets,... It is woefully inadequate for use in CCIE prep. If you use this book as your main "lab prep" you will be in utter shock the day you step into the lab. Louie -Original Message- From: Rodgers Moore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/16/00 7:15 PM Subject: Re: CCIE RS lab prep I think that the most telling statement you've made is that Cisco knows about the book, and hence the lab proctors do too. So logically, this book alone will not be enough to pass the lab. Rodgers Moore "Chuck Church" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver">news:149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver... All, I was talking to a Cisco SE Tuesday and he mentioned that the All-In-One Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee was the book to use. Apparently many internal Cisco people in RTP use this book for preparation. I've ordered it, and am currently using the Doyle and Halabi books as well. Has anyone used this all in one guide to prepare? Was it useful? Also, I found out for sure there will be a small amount of voice on the test - FXS/FXO on a couple of routers. Any idea on where to start or what to read? Maybe some CCO URLs? TIA, Chuck Church RS Lab - Jan 12/13 RTP (AKA D-Day) CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE RS lab prep
Just my $0.02 I have the book...have used the book and it's probably worth the money if your experience is somewhat limited or perhaps deep in certain areas and shallow in others. It's very basic though...it introduces you to many commands and appropriate show and debugs to make sure you've got things right. It gets you started but won't get you to the finish line alone. I wish I could tell what would but I'm still running in that direction myself. Let you know when I get there. Frank Rodgers Moore wrote: I think that the most telling statement you've made is that Cisco knows about the book, and hence the lab proctors do too. So logically, this book alone will not be enough to pass the lab. Rodgers Moore "Chuck Church" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver">news:149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver... All, I was talking to a Cisco SE Tuesday and he mentioned that the All-In-One Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee was the book to use. Apparently many internal Cisco people in RTP use this book for preparation. I've ordered it, and am currently using the Doyle and Halabi books as well. Has anyone used this all in one guide to prepare? Was it useful? Also, I found out for sure there will be a small amount of voice on the test - FXS/FXO on a couple of routers. Any idea on where to start or what to read? Maybe some CCO URLs? TIA, Chuck Church RS Lab - Jan 12/13 RTP (AKA D-Day) CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE RS lab prep
Which is why from what I have heard/read (and visiting the web site) that you should bite the bullet and buy the lab scenarios from Marc Russell. They have been argued as the best lab prep material for the very reason that they do get into the "large" scenarios. I haven't bought them yet but I will be in the early new year. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Belt, Louie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "'Rodgers Moore '" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 16 November, 2000 22:06 Subject: RE: CCIE RS lab prep The book's a farce for true CCIE lab prep. It is not in any way enough prep for the lab. It segment's everything into small portions, and gives you step by step intructions it never puts it all together (totally unlike the lab). Additionally, there is no bridging, DLSW+, voice, firewall feature sets,... It is woefully inadequate for use in CCIE prep. If you use this book as your main "lab prep" you will be in utter shock the day you step into the lab. Louie -Original Message- From: Rodgers Moore To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11/16/00 7:15 PM Subject: Re: CCIE RS lab prep I think that the most telling statement you've made is that Cisco knows about the book, and hence the lab proctors do too. So logically, this book alone will not be enough to pass the lab. Rodgers Moore "Chuck Church" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver">news:149867F27C65D411977900508B10457A3627@ntserver... All, I was talking to a Cisco SE Tuesday and he mentioned that the All-In-One Cisco CCIE Lab Study Guide by Stephen Hutnik and Michael Satterlee was the book to use. Apparently many internal Cisco people in RTP use this book for preparation. I've ordered it, and am currently using the Doyle and Halabi books as well. Has anyone used this all in one guide to prepare? Was it useful? Also, I found out for sure there will be a small amount of voice on the test - FXS/FXO on a couple of routers. Any idea on where to start or what to read? Maybe some CCO URLs? TIA, Chuck Church RS Lab - Jan 12/13 RTP (AKA D-Day) CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE Sr. Network Engineer Magnacom Technologies 140 N. Rt. 303 Valley Cottage, NY 10989 845-267-4000 x218 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
