Re: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
Kevin Wigle wrote: only that you must weight 72 hours between attempts. Prometric doesn't count hours so 3 calendar days Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: jeff sicuranza To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: RE: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556] No, from what I have heard from an older thread, here or over at cisco's forum is that you can re-take any ccnp/dp re-cert exam as many times as you need to pass before your re-cert date expires. After that you have to start all over again from ccna. Yep that seems to be the case, my tests were taken on a tue and a Fri and were differnet tests, so I am wondering if the three day limit is person based not test based for I could not schedule my dp recert for the next day. I thought maybe the testing location was booked so I guess they count the day of the last test taken. What I meant in my last post is that if you fail well before the date of expiration you are not de-certified or anything, you can re-take the exam over and over again, every three days, until you pass before your expiration date. I did not even know about the three day limit. Thanks kevin Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69938t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
No, from what I have heard from an older thread, here or over at cisco's forum is that you can re-take any ccnp/dp re-cert exam as many times as you need to pass before your re-cert date expires. After that you have to start all over again from ccna. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69871t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
only that you must weight 72 hours between attempts. Prometric doesn't count hours so 3 calendar days Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: jeff sicuranza To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: RE: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556] No, from what I have heard from an older thread, here or over at cisco's forum is that you can re-take any ccnp/dp re-cert exam as many times as you need to pass before your re-cert date expires. After that you have to start all over again from ccna. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69908t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
Well fellas I passed the CCDP recert today. Man what a messed up test. The exam objectives on CCO(for all tests) are not what are on this exam. This exam is basically version 1 Routing, Switching, Remote access and CID version 1 from 3-4 years ago. I mean I did have some MLS but I had x25, smds, atm aal3-4 nonsense, desktop protocol issues, lan manager, old CID design questions that did not make sense, type in questions(which is to be expected) and old hardware that is probably not even supported anymore, like 700s and 1600s. I made many comments during the exam that these questions are no longer relevant especially for a CCDP update recert. It was all old stuff. I mean old stuff that was not too relevant then, specific 1600s and 700s issues, come on now .. I studied based on the info. from the CCO site, so for Routing, Switching and Remote access for the CCNP recert., which was updated, but it was my experience that carried me on this one. I did go over my old Sybex and Cisco Press ver. 1 CID books this week just in case, so that helped too. I thought halfway through I was failing for all of the older 700/1600, desktop protocols and x25/atm crap was driving me nuts. Since I have been in computer technology since 84 I was able to pass. A lot of the questions were hands on fill in the blank types so that helped me also. Funny though, I did better on this exam(averaging in the 80% range for every topic except CID) and got in the high 800s than I did on the CCNP recert.(Considering the CCO CCNP topics matched the exam). I only studied a week and a half for both and took them two days apart. What I learned in the CCNP recert exam, that I posted earlier here, did not apply on the CCDP recert. exam to my dismay so I was bummed out during the exam. In this case my old hands on experience rules. So, for those of you fellas preparing for the CCDP recert. your old books(even version 1 CCDP stuff) is fine. Now to decide if I want to take a second stab at my ccie lab seat. Good luck to all /JS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69909t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
only that you must weight 72 hours between attempts. Prometric doesn't count hours so 3 calendar days Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: jeff sicuranza To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: RE: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556] No, from what I have heard from an older thread, here or over at cisco's forum is that you can re-take any ccnp/dp re-cert exam as many times as you need to pass before your re-cert date expires. After that you have to start all over again from ccna. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69915t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
No, from what I have heard from an older thread, here or over at cisco's forum is that you can re-take any ccnp/dp re-cert exam as many times as you need to pass before your re-cert date expires. After that you have to start all over again from ccna. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69927t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
only that you must weight 72 hours between attempts. Prometric doesn't count hours so 3 calendar days Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: jeff sicuranza To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: RE: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556] No, from what I have heard from an older thread, here or over at cisco's forum is that you can re-take any ccnp/dp re-cert exam as many times as you need to pass before your re-cert date expires. After that you have to start all over again from ccna. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69929t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
Well fellas I passed the CCDP recert today. Man what a messed up test. The exam objectives on CCO(for all tests) are not what are on this exam. This exam is basically version 1 Routing, Switching, Remote access and CID version 1 from 3-4 years ago. I mean I did have some MLS but I had x25, smds, atm aal3-4 nonsense, desktop protocol issues, lan manager, old CID design questions that did not make sense, type in questions(which is to be expected) and old hardware that is probably not even supported anymore, like 700s and 1600s. I made many comments during the exam that these questions are no longer relevant especially for a CCDP update recert. It was all old stuff. I mean old stuff that was not too relevant then, specific 1600s and 700s issues, come on now.. I studied based on the info. from the CCO site, so for Routing, Switching and Remote access for the CCNP recert., which was updated, but it was my experience that carried me on this one. I did go over my old Sybex and Cisco Press ver. 1 CID books this week just in case, so that helped too. I thought halfway through I was failing for all of the older 700/1600, desktop protocols and x25/atm crap was driving me nuts. Since I have been in computer technology since 84 I was able to pass. A lot of the questions were hands on fill in the blank types so that helped me also. Funny though, I did better on this exam(averaging in the 80% range for every topic except CID) and got in the high 800s than I did on the CCNP recert.(Considering the CCO CCNP topics matched the exam). I only studied a week and a half for both and took them two days apart. What I learned in the CCNP recert exam, that I posted earlier here, did not apply on the CCDP recert. exam to my dismay so I was bummed out during the exam. In this case my old hands on experience rules. So, for those of you fellas preparing for the CCDP recert. your old books(even version 1 CCDP stuff) is fine. Now to decide if I want to take a second stab at my ccie lab seat. Good luck to all /JS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69928t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
Well I passed the exam, ccnp recert today, it was close, man what a pain. I only studied a week and a half and mostly labbed my work. Considering I have not touched a cisco router or done much cisco work since my first ccie lab attempt last september(I was burnt out of cisco and sick of it) I guess the experience carried me on this on. This exam is a pain, the new format is cool for you have to type in configs et al. So know your command output across the board. However there was some old stuff like win95 setup for dial up and an appletalk plus a couple of x25 questions. I put in the comments that this stuff was outdated, not relelvant and appletalk was not on any of the exam topic lists. Also, you cannot mark your questions and go back later. It is all or nothing. I had 15 minutes to spare and I could not go back, so I was graded immediatly. The examples and diagrams(used for the config simulations) have text that is so small you can barley read it. Since all of my cisco exams for np/dp were v1 and back in 2000 if this is a hint of the future, the ccnp/dp will become more difficult to obtain. Much more emphasis on hands on and knowing your command output cold across the board. My test did have the mls, multicasting(ip and mac stuff) and some ISIS, so know your multicast mac addresses plus some older fr, isdn ipx, queuing subnetting stuff. The questions are tougher and more esoteric in terms of understanding them. One question was obviously an error, same answer in two choices. Lots of switching spanning-tree(theory/practical) vtp routers with isl et al. Bgp sync, hands on ospf configuration, policy routing, hands on frame relay config. So know your switchig/routing commands cold and hands on. It was just funcky old stuff but with more command output detailed asked and newer stuff with funky command output details asked. I recall it was 112 questions with 2 hours to complete I did not violate any nda just cofirming that what was in the exam objectives for all tests were in this test, even the appletalk question. I used all my ccie books and some of my older np/dp books. I used this opportunity to brush up my cisco skills but I alos spent extra time reading doyle I II for all IGP and BGP. I did not use any brain dumps or practice tests. Do not use them. Learn from experience, hands on practicing, reading and labbing. You will appreciate you skills and cert a little more, and be more confident in your real abilities. I used www.amilabs.com for all of my work. Oh well now on to recertify on the DP. I will probably sit that one on Thurs. From there I will make a decision if I should spend the next three months on my second ccie attempt. I have a lab slot schedlued in sept otherwise I will lose my written eligibility. I may pass for I have an opportunity to work on some WDM, obtain my CWNA and maybe CISSP with in the same period. I hoped this helped someone. Good luck to all Regards... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69633t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
What is the passing score? Is this a new style test? I need to renew mine in October and am not looking forward to it. Brett -Original Message- From: Kevin Wigle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 7:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556] Replying to my own post The exam is 2 hours, Prometric must have issues with it's database. Failed it again today but with a lot better score - don't exactly feel good about that though. I still have issues with the router simulator questions. There are problems with it. It does not give the same results as the real thing. For one scenario it didn't even respond properly but the command worked. You couldn't tell the command worked until you looked at the config. However, knowing the quirks helped me get a better score this time, I hope 3rd time lucky. I'll be trying it again soon. CCNP expires in June. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Kevin Wigle To: Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 10:36 PM Subject: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556] I failed my first attempt 2 weeks ago. Back then the exam was 2 hours - also confirmed by a review by Priscilla. A recently booked a second attempt and both the web page at the time of booking and the confirmation email now says that the exam is 3 hours. There have not been many positive reviews of this exam. Has anybody heard that Cisco might be fiddling with it? Like giving more time? Kevin Wigle Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69668t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
Replying to my own post The exam is 2 hours, Prometric must have issues with it's database. Failed it again today but with a lot better score - don't exactly feel good about that though. I still have issues with the router simulator questions. There are problems with it. It does not give the same results as the real thing. For one scenario it didn't even respond properly but the command worked. You couldn't tell the command worked until you looked at the config. However, knowing the quirks helped me get a better score this time, I hope 3rd time lucky. I'll be trying it again soon. CCNP expires in June. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: Kevin Wigle To: Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 10:36 PM Subject: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556] I failed my first attempt 2 weeks ago. Back then the exam was 2 hours - also confirmed by a review by Priscilla. A recently booked a second attempt and both the web page at the time of booking and the confirmation email now says that the exam is 3 hours. There have not been many positive reviews of this exam. Has anybody heard that Cisco might be fiddling with it? Like giving more time? Kevin Wigle Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69615t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Re-certification [7:69556]
I've noticed that the simulation questions perform terrible and sometimes lock up when run on low-end computers. They need to raise the minimum PC requirements for Prometric test centers in my opinion. Don't be afraid to email Cisco about any problems with the exam. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=69619t=69556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
