RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]
I took the beta BCRAN last Thursday and plan to take the beta Support on Monday the 18th. I do not think I would have any problem with the regular BCRAN test because I am having no trouble with Transcender and Boson tests. The 3 hour beta is a royal pain. I will probably take the regular test rather than wait three months to see the results. If I do not feel 100% ready for the Support test by Next Friday I may take the regular test instead. Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tarek Sabry Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] OK I just took it. Yes 3 hours. But the number of questions is horrendous! It definitely took me by surprise. I thought as I have been studying for my CCIE lab for the past year or so (on and off) then this will be a walk in the park. Was NOT! First of all I did not know that you cannot go back to questions. Definitely I would have had a different strategy. I wasn't simply prepared for that so I ended up spending too long on some questions, which I regretted later because I had a lot of very difficult questions in the beginning and a lot of easy ones in the end that I wish I could spend like 20 seconds on each instead of 3! I had 10 minutes to answer 45 questions in the end!!! I never took CCNP v2 but rumor has it that its routing exam isn't that hard. Well, maybe I'm not that competent, but today I had real tricky questions in this Beta. Well, but again the way the questions were asked was also really bad in some instances. For the first time in an exam I just had to leave some comments for some of the questions. I don't know if I'll pass or not. I think I still did OK. The lesson I learned from taking this test without preparing for it is that CCNP and CCIE are just very different ball games, and not just 2 levels of competence. You can get get away with some uncertainties as to how things really work, but in the CCNP (or at least this new version) this is much less the case. Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Byron Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week. byron - Original Message - From: EMW_Tech To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1 hour And was it three hours? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37767t=37500 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]
I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1 hour And was it three hours? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37588t=37500 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]
any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week. byron - Original Message - From: EMW_Tech To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1 hour And was it three hours? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37602t=37500 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]
The beta exams are mostly slotted for 3 hours. I took the CCNA 2.0 beta a year or so back and was done in a little over an hour -Original Message- From: Byron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week. byron - Original Message - From: EMW_Tech To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1 hour And was it three hours? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37606t=37500 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]
Yes, all Cisco beta tests are three hours or more long. The reason is in a beta test you are asked around 150 questions whereas a production test is around 60 questions. Almost every test vendor does the same for their beta tests. You are asked more questions to validate the questions. Vendors want to develop a test that can be passed. The beta process is their means for determining which test questions will be used in the production test pool of questions. In turn, the test vendor makes the test available at a reduced cost or free in some cases. Through Complexity there is Simplicity, Through Simplicity there is Complexity David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, CIW Associate, A+, 3Wizard Tarek Sabry wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1 hour or do I have wrong information??? I may have to call them in the AM but would appreciate it if someone can tell me if they know. Thanks Tarek Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37607t=37500 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]
OK I just took it. Yes 3 hours. But the number of questions is horrendous! It definitely took me by surprise. I thought as I have been studying for my CCIE lab for the past year or so (on and off) then this will be a walk in the park. Was NOT! First of all I did not know that you cannot go back to questions. Definitely I would have had a different strategy. I wasn't simply prepared for that so I ended up spending too long on some questions, which I regretted later because I had a lot of very difficult questions in the beginning and a lot of easy ones in the end that I wish I could spend like 20 seconds on each instead of 3! I had 10 minutes to answer 45 questions in the end!!! I never took CCNP v2 but rumor has it that its routing exam isn't that hard. Well, maybe I'm not that competent, but today I had real tricky questions in this Beta. Well, but again the way the questions were asked was also really bad in some instances. For the first time in an exam I just had to leave some comments for some of the questions. I don't know if I'll pass or not. I think I still did OK. The lesson I learned from taking this test without preparing for it is that CCNP and CCIE are just very different ball games, and not just 2 levels of competence. You can get get away with some uncertainties as to how things really work, but in the CCNP (or at least this new version) this is much less the case. Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Byron Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week. byron - Original Message - From: EMW_Tech To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1 hour And was it three hours? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37621t=37500 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]
How can the routing exam for the CCNP be 3 hours long? Do you mean the CCNPv3 Foundation Beta? - Sean -Original Message- From: Tarek Sabry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] OK I just took it. Yes 3 hours. But the number of questions is horrendous! It definitely took me by surprise. I thought as I have been studying for my CCIE lab for the past year or so (on and off) then this will be a walk in the park. Was NOT! First of all I did not know that you cannot go back to questions. Definitely I would have had a different strategy. I wasn't simply prepared for that so I ended up spending too long on some questions, which I regretted later because I had a lot of very difficult questions in the beginning and a lot of easy ones in the end that I wish I could spend like 20 seconds on each instead of 3! I had 10 minutes to answer 45 questions in the end!!! I never took CCNP v2 but rumor has it that its routing exam isn't that hard. Well, maybe I'm not that competent, but today I had real tricky questions in this Beta. Well, but again the way the questions were asked was also really bad in some instances. For the first time in an exam I just had to leave some comments for some of the questions. I don't know if I'll pass or not. I think I still did OK. The lesson I learned from taking this test without preparing for it is that CCNP and CCIE are just very different ball games, and not just 2 levels of competence. You can get get away with some uncertainties as to how things really work, but in the CCNP (or at least this new version) this is much less the case. Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Byron Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week. byron - Original Message - From: EMW_Tech To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1 hour And was it three hours? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37625t=37500 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]
Beta. Torture! -Original Message- From: Sean Knox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:23 PM To: 'Tarek Sabry'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] How can the routing exam for the CCNP be 3 hours long? Do you mean the CCNPv3 Foundation Beta? - Sean -Original Message- From: Tarek Sabry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] OK I just took it. Yes 3 hours. But the number of questions is horrendous! It definitely took me by surprise. I thought as I have been studying for my CCIE lab for the past year or so (on and off) then this will be a walk in the park. Was NOT! First of all I did not know that you cannot go back to questions. Definitely I would have had a different strategy. I wasn't simply prepared for that so I ended up spending too long on some questions, which I regretted later because I had a lot of very difficult questions in the beginning and a lot of easy ones in the end that I wish I could spend like 20 seconds on each instead of 3! I had 10 minutes to answer 45 questions in the end!!! I never took CCNP v2 but rumor has it that its routing exam isn't that hard. Well, maybe I'm not that competent, but today I had real tricky questions in this Beta. Well, but again the way the questions were asked was also really bad in some instances. For the first time in an exam I just had to leave some comments for some of the questions. I don't know if I'll pass or not. I think I still did OK. The lesson I learned from taking this test without preparing for it is that CCNP and CCIE are just very different ball games, and not just 2 levels of competence. You can get get away with some uncertainties as to how things really work, but in the CCNP (or at least this new version) this is much less the case. Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Byron Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week. byron - Original Message - From: EMW_Tech To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500] I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1 hour And was it three hours? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37626t=37500 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]
I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1 hour or do I have wrong information??? I may have to call them in the AM but would appreciate it if someone can tell me if they know. Thanks Tarek Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=37500t=37500 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]