RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]

2002-03-09 Thread Joe McCormack

I took the beta BCRAN last Thursday and plan to take the beta Support on
Monday the 18th.  I do not think I would have any problem with the
regular BCRAN test because I am having no trouble with Transcender and
Boson tests.  The 3 hour beta is a royal pain.  I will probably take the
regular test rather than wait three months to see the results.  

If I do not feel 100% ready for the Support test by Next Friday I may
take the regular test instead.

Joe

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Tarek Sabry
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OK I just took it. Yes 3 hours. But the number of questions is
horrendous!
It definitely took me by surprise. I thought as I have been studying for
my
CCIE lab for the past year or so (on and off) then this will be a walk
in
the park. Was NOT!

First of all I did not know that you cannot go back to questions.
Definitely
I would have had a different strategy. I wasn't simply prepared for that
so
I ended up spending too long on some questions, which I regretted later
because I had a lot of very difficult questions in the beginning and a
lot
of easy ones in the end that I wish I could spend like 20 seconds on
each
instead of 3! I had 10 minutes to answer 45 questions in the end!!!

I never took CCNP v2 but rumor has it that its routing exam isn't that
hard.
Well, maybe I'm not that competent, but today I had real tricky
questions in
this Beta. Well, but again the way the questions were asked was also
really
bad in some instances. For the first time in an exam I just had to leave
some comments for some of the questions.

I don't know if I'll pass or not. I think I still did OK. The lesson I
learned from taking this test without preparing for it is that CCNP and
CCIE
are just very different ball games, and not just 2 levels of competence.
You
can get get away with some uncertainties as to how things really work,
but
in the CCNP (or at least this new version) this is much less the case.

Tarek



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any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week.

byron
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Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]


 I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of
1
hour

And was it three hours?
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Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]

2002-03-07 Thread EMW_Tech

 I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1
hour

And was it three hours?




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Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]

2002-03-07 Thread Byron

any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week.

byron
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Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]


 I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1
hour

And was it three hours?
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RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]

2002-03-07 Thread Dusty Harper

The beta exams are mostly slotted for 3 hours.  I took the CCNA 2.0 beta
a year or so back and was done in a little over an hour

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any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week.

byron
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 I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of
1
hour

And was it three hours?
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Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]

2002-03-07 Thread David L. Blair

Yes, all Cisco beta tests are three hours or more long.

The reason is in a beta test you are asked around 150 questions whereas a
production test is around 60 questions.  Almost every test vendor does the
same for their beta tests.

You are asked more questions to validate the questions. Vendors want to
develop a test that can be passed.  The beta process is their means for
determining which test questions will be used in the production test pool of
questions. In turn, the test vendor makes the test available at a reduced
cost or free in some cases.


Through Complexity there is Simplicity,
   Through Simplicity there is Complexity

David L. Blair - CCNP, CCNA, MCSE, CBE, CIW Associate, A+, 3Wizard





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 I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1
hour
 or do I have wrong information??? I may have to call them in the AM but
 would appreciate it if someone can tell me if they know.

 Thanks
 Tarek




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RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]

2002-03-07 Thread Tarek Sabry

OK I just took it. Yes 3 hours. But the number of questions is horrendous!
It definitely took me by surprise. I thought as I have been studying for my
CCIE lab for the past year or so (on and off) then this will be a walk in
the park. Was NOT!

First of all I did not know that you cannot go back to questions. Definitely
I would have had a different strategy. I wasn't simply prepared for that so
I ended up spending too long on some questions, which I regretted later
because I had a lot of very difficult questions in the beginning and a lot
of easy ones in the end that I wish I could spend like 20 seconds on each
instead of 3! I had 10 minutes to answer 45 questions in the end!!!

I never took CCNP v2 but rumor has it that its routing exam isn't that hard.
Well, maybe I'm not that competent, but today I had real tricky questions in
this Beta. Well, but again the way the questions were asked was also really
bad in some instances. For the first time in an exam I just had to leave
some comments for some of the questions.

I don't know if I'll pass or not. I think I still did OK. The lesson I
learned from taking this test without preparing for it is that CCNP and CCIE
are just very different ball games, and not just 2 levels of competence. You
can get get away with some uncertainties as to how things really work, but
in the CCNP (or at least this new version) this is much less the case.

Tarek



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Byron
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Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]


any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week.

byron
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To:
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]


 I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1
hour

And was it three hours?
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RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]

2002-03-07 Thread Sean Knox

How can the routing exam for the CCNP be 3 hours long? Do you mean the
CCNPv3 Foundation Beta?

- Sean

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From: Tarek Sabry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]


OK I just took it. Yes 3 hours. But the number of questions is horrendous!
It definitely took me by surprise. I thought as I have been studying for my
CCIE lab for the past year or so (on and off) then this will be a walk in
the park. Was NOT!

First of all I did not know that you cannot go back to questions. Definitely
I would have had a different strategy. I wasn't simply prepared for that so
I ended up spending too long on some questions, which I regretted later
because I had a lot of very difficult questions in the beginning and a lot
of easy ones in the end that I wish I could spend like 20 seconds on each
instead of 3! I had 10 minutes to answer 45 questions in the end!!!

I never took CCNP v2 but rumor has it that its routing exam isn't that hard.
Well, maybe I'm not that competent, but today I had real tricky questions in
this Beta. Well, but again the way the questions were asked was also really
bad in some instances. For the first time in an exam I just had to leave
some comments for some of the questions.

I don't know if I'll pass or not. I think I still did OK. The lesson I
learned from taking this test without preparing for it is that CCNP and CCIE
are just very different ball games, and not just 2 levels of competence. You
can get get away with some uncertainties as to how things really work, but
in the CCNP (or at least this new version) this is much less the case.

Tarek



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Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]


any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week.

byron
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To:
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:51 PM
Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]


 I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1
hour

And was it three hours?
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RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]

2002-03-07 Thread Tarek Sabry

Beta. Torture!

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How can the routing exam for the CCNP be 3 hours long? Do you mean the
CCNPv3 Foundation Beta?

- Sean

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From: Tarek Sabry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 6:38 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]


OK I just took it. Yes 3 hours. But the number of questions is horrendous!
It definitely took me by surprise. I thought as I have been studying for my
CCIE lab for the past year or so (on and off) then this will be a walk in
the park. Was NOT!

First of all I did not know that you cannot go back to questions. Definitely
I would have had a different strategy. I wasn't simply prepared for that so
I ended up spending too long on some questions, which I regretted later
because I had a lot of very difficult questions in the beginning and a lot
of easy ones in the end that I wish I could spend like 20 seconds on each
instead of 3! I had 10 minutes to answer 45 questions in the end!!!

I never took CCNP v2 but rumor has it that its routing exam isn't that hard.
Well, maybe I'm not that competent, but today I had real tricky questions in
this Beta. Well, but again the way the questions were asked was also really
bad in some instances. For the first time in an exam I just had to leave
some comments for some of the questions.

I don't know if I'll pass or not. I think I still did OK. The lesson I
learned from taking this test without preparing for it is that CCNP and CCIE
are just very different ball games, and not just 2 levels of competence. You
can get get away with some uncertainties as to how things really work, but
in the CCNP (or at least this new version) this is much less the case.

Tarek



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any confirmation on the time? i plan to take it next week.

byron
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Subject: Re: CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]


 I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1
hour

And was it three hours?
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CCNP v3.0 [7:37500]

2002-03-06 Thread Tarek Sabry

I'm taking the Routing Beta tomorrow. Is it really 3 hours instead of 1 hour
or do I have wrong information??? I may have to call them in the AM but
would appreciate it if someone can tell me if they know.

Thanks
Tarek




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