Re: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

2001-06-12 Thread Brian Lodwick

packet per packet load balancing is possible using regular cef

Brian


From: West, Karl 
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Subject: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 09:38:53 -0400

To all:

I understand the features that CEF/dCEF provide for high end VIP based
routers. I know the 3600's and 2100's has CEF options in their IOS, what
would running CEF on these platforms benefit me?

Karl
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Re: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

2001-06-07 Thread Mike Fountain

For those of you following this:

I tried turning route caching off on the T1s and just using the ip cef and
load-balancing per-packet commands, but that didn't work.  My CPU started
climbing back into the 30% range and when I did a show run the router had
automatically added no ip route-cache cef and no ip route-cache as if
they were two separate things.

I wasn't able to get it to fast-switch without the route-cache command and I
couldn't get it to take ip route-cache cef without also removing the
regular no ip route-cache command.

I never did get true packet-by-packet load balancing across the 3 T1s.  It
seemed like turning off route-caching turned off CEF for that interface and
it went back to process switching.  But, with it turned on the load was
spread across the 3 T1s, but not equally.

I'll probably have to ask our Cisco SE why the 'load-balance per-packet'
doesn't seem to be working like we would expect it to.



 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Fountain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]


 No, it isn't exactly packet by packet.  Supposedly you can get packet by
 packet, but I haven't yet.

 After turning CEF we configured the interfaces for ip route-cache cef
and
 ip load-balancing packet-per-packet

 There are 3 T1s on that guy, and last time a looked the loads were 2/255,
 5/255, and 8/255.

 I'm thinking maybe if we used the load balancing command with no ip
 route-cache instead of the route-cache cef command it might be a little
 more even.

 This is a new turn-up so we're still playing.  I might try turning off
 caching but leave CEF on and see what happens.



 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Larrieu
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:24 AM
 Subject: RE: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]


  Idle curiousity - are you getting true packet by packet load sharing?
Or
  conversation by conversation?
 
  i.e. is your traffic balance 50-50 ( for two lines )? Or some other
 figure,
  because traffic for particular destinations is dent out particular links
 due
  to the route caching?
 
  Chuck
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Mike
  Fountain
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:05 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]
 
  We use CEF on some of our 2600s so that we can do Packet-by-Packet
  loadbalancing without having to process-switch every packet and burn up
 the
  CPU
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: West, Karl
  To:
  Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:38 AM
  Subject: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]
 
 
   To all:
  
   I understand the features that CEF/dCEF provide for high end VIP based
   routers. I know the 3600's and 2100's has CEF options in their IOS,
what
   would running CEF on these platforms benefit me?
  
   Karl




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CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

2001-06-06 Thread West, Karl

To all:

I understand the features that CEF/dCEF provide for high end VIP based
routers. I know the 3600's and 2100's has CEF options in their IOS, what
would running CEF on these platforms benefit me?

Karl




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Re: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

2001-06-06 Thread Mike Fountain

We use CEF on some of our 2600s so that we can do Packet-by-Packet
loadbalancing without having to process-switch every packet and burn up the
CPU


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Subject: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]


 To all:

 I understand the features that CEF/dCEF provide for high end VIP based
 routers. I know the 3600's and 2100's has CEF options in their IOS, what
 would running CEF on these platforms benefit me?

 Karl




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RE: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

2001-06-06 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Idle curiousity - are you getting true packet by packet load sharing? Or
conversation by conversation?

i.e. is your traffic balance 50-50 ( for two lines )? Or some other figure,
because traffic for particular destinations is dent out particular links due
to the route caching?

Chuck

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Fountain
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Subject:Re: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

We use CEF on some of our 2600s so that we can do Packet-by-Packet
loadbalancing without having to process-switch every packet and burn up the
CPU


- Original Message -
From: West, Karl
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]


 To all:

 I understand the features that CEF/dCEF provide for high end VIP based
 routers. I know the 3600's and 2100's has CEF options in their IOS, what
 would running CEF on these platforms benefit me?

 Karl




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RE: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

2001-06-06 Thread West, Karl

hmmm I have tried it with and with-out and I have not seen any performance
difference. Have you?

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To: West, Karl; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We use CEF on some of our 2600s so that we can do Packet-by-Packet
loadbalancing without having to process-switch every packet and burn up the
CPU


- Original Message -
From: West, Karl 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]


 To all:

 I understand the features that CEF/dCEF provide for high end VIP based
 routers. I know the 3600's and 2100's has CEF options in their IOS, what
 would running CEF on these platforms benefit me?

 Karl




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RE: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

2001-06-06 Thread West, Karl

No for packet by packet you get 50-50  do a traceroute out several times
and you will see the switch.
My question is does it really make a difference on low end routers to have
CEF enabled. I have done it both with and without cef with no difference.

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]


Idle curiousity - are you getting true packet by packet load sharing? Or
conversation by conversation?

i.e. is your traffic balance 50-50 ( for two lines )? Or some other figure,
because traffic for particular destinations is dent out particular links due
to the route caching?

Chuck

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Mike
Fountain
Sent:   Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

We use CEF on some of our 2600s so that we can do Packet-by-Packet
loadbalancing without having to process-switch every packet and burn up the
CPU


- Original Message -
From: West, Karl
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:38 AM
Subject: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]


 To all:

 I understand the features that CEF/dCEF provide for high end VIP based
 routers. I know the 3600's and 2100's has CEF options in their IOS, what
 would running CEF on these platforms benefit me?

 Karl




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RE: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

2001-06-06 Thread Frank Kim

I'm currently using ip cef on my 4000m with two T1s attached.  And I'm
getting true 50/50 outbound load balancing.  My router is ip cef enabled
with ip load-sharing per packet.  And of course 'ip route-cache' is
disabled on the interfaces as well.


-Frank


 On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Chuck Larrieu
wrote:

 Idle curiousity - are you getting true packet by packet load sharing? Or
 conversation by conversation?
 
 i.e. is your traffic balance 50-50 ( for two lines )? Or some other figure,
 because traffic for particular destinations is dent out particular links
due
 to the route caching?
 
 Chuck
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Mike
 Fountain
 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:05 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]
 
 We use CEF on some of our 2600s so that we can do Packet-by-Packet
 loadbalancing without having to process-switch every packet and burn up the
 CPU
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: West, Karl
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:38 AM
 Subject: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]
 
 
  To all:
 
  I understand the features that CEF/dCEF provide for high end VIP based
  routers. I know the 3600's and 2100's has CEF options in their IOS, what
  would running CEF on these platforms benefit me?
 
  Karl




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Re: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

2001-06-06 Thread Mike Fountain

No, it isn't exactly packet by packet.  Supposedly you can get packet by
packet, but I haven't yet.

After turning CEF we configured the interfaces for ip route-cache cef and
ip load-balancing packet-per-packet

There are 3 T1s on that guy, and last time a looked the loads were 2/255,
5/255, and 8/255.

I'm thinking maybe if we used the load balancing command with no ip
route-cache instead of the route-cache cef command it might be a little
more even.

This is a new turn-up so we're still playing.  I might try turning off
caching but leave CEF on and see what happens.



- Original Message -
From: Chuck Larrieu 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:24 AM
Subject: RE: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]


 Idle curiousity - are you getting true packet by packet load sharing? Or
 conversation by conversation?

 i.e. is your traffic balance 50-50 ( for two lines )? Or some other
figure,
 because traffic for particular destinations is dent out particular links
due
 to the route caching?

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Mike
 Fountain
 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:05 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

 We use CEF on some of our 2600s so that we can do Packet-by-Packet
 loadbalancing without having to process-switch every packet and burn up
the
 CPU


 - Original Message -
 From: West, Karl
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 9:38 AM
 Subject: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]


  To all:
 
  I understand the features that CEF/dCEF provide for high end VIP based
  routers. I know the 3600's and 2100's has CEF options in their IOS, what
  would running CEF on these platforms benefit me?
 
  Karl




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Re: CEF/dCEF [7:7330]

2001-06-06 Thread Nate Van Maren

The load balancing packet-by-packet is just that, but it is NOT bit by
bit...  But is usually works out great...

I turn CEF on in my configs by default, just cause it makes me feel better...

-Nate
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 I understand the features that CEF/dCEF provide for high end VIP based
 routers. I know the 3600's and 2100's has CEF options in their IOS, what
 would running CEF on these platforms benefit me?

 Karl




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