Campus Networks
Can anyone recommend a substitute for Designing Campus Networks by Terri Quinn-Andry Not for CCDA/CCDP, but if those are suitable/comparable references I'm willing to check them out. Something I can send to a "sales" type of person would be great. TIA, ~ak. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Campus Networks
Top-Down Network Design is a great book. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578700698/o/qid=981992230/sr=8-1/ref =aps_sr_b_1_1/103-3984995-2198223 Collin "anthony kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Can anyone recommend a substitute for > > Designing Campus Networks > by Terri Quinn-Andry > > Not for CCDA/CCDP, but if those are suitable/comparable references > I'm willing to check them out. Something I can send to a "sales" type > of person would be great. > > TIA, > ~ak. > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Campus Networks
Ah...I hope it's not too good, then I'll have to buy 2. One for me and one to give away. Thanks, --- NetEng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Top-Down Network Design is a great book. > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578700698/o/qid=981992230/sr=8-1/ref > =aps_sr_b_1_1/103-3984995-2198223 > > Collin > > > "anthony kim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Can anyone recommend a substitute for > > > > Designing Campus Networks > > by Terri Quinn-Andry > > > > Not for CCDA/CCDP, but if those are suitable/comparable > references > > I'm willing to check them out. Something I can send to a "sales" > type > > of person would be great. > > > > TIA, > > ~ak. > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 > > a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Campus Networks - Real Life???
Got a question. In the Switch Block, is it really necessary to have a 2900 Catalyst at the Access and 4x00-6x00 at the Distribution Layer? Can't the Access/Dist link be handled in the Switches Fabric? Especially in Smaller Campus Networks? Larger Networks would seem to necessitate a Switch at both layers connected by Fast Ethernet/Etherchannel/Gig Ethernet depending on the bandwidth requirements but certainly not in a small/medium Campus. Am I seeing that right? -- Michael S Garcia CCNA - MCP - CCNP (soon) Axient Communications _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Campus Networks - Real Life???
no remember that this is a conseptual model.toy can have all three layers in one device ...a 5509 switch with an 48port10/100 (access layer) an RSM (a 2600 in disguise ...which can handle distribution layer functions) and an ATM card (which is core) all in the same device...it`s just easyier to design a network when we use this model. REMBER that in order to handel dist layer you have to ROUTE...that means 4000-6000 (RSM)your 2900 dosent have the functionality HTH steve.CCNA/DA/CCSI/CCNP >From: "NEO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "NEO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Campus Networks - Real Life??? >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:42:31 -0700 > >Got a question. In the Switch Block, is it really necessary to have a 2900 >Catalyst at the Access and 4x00-6x00 at the Distribution Layer? Can't the >Access/Dist link be handled in the Switches Fabric? Especially in Smaller >Campus Networks? Larger Networks would seem to necessitate a Switch at both >layers connected by Fast Ethernet/Etherchannel/Gig Ethernet depending on >the >bandwidth requirements but certainly not in a small/medium Campus. Am I >seeing that right? >-- >Michael S Garcia >CCNA - MCP - CCNP (soon) >Axient Communications > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Campus Networks - Real Life???
Michael worte... >In addittion to this, all VLAN, VTP and HSRP can likewise be configured >with >this same set up and Multicasting can be handled this way as well, right? well.if you had vlans between core devices being trunked (VTP) from dist to coreyes( I THINK the group will disagree thoough) dist to access layer you have Multicast domainsyes...HSRP at the dist level yesnot really at the access...as for the coreyes...also that would work for redundency remember it`s not a way to connect buildings together it just helps us visualise what needs to be done >??? Does VLAN config extend to the core? I mean would I in real life ever config a VLAN over a core to access a device in another building lets say???. CCIE my mate says yes CAN be done...but don`t do it...the idea behind Vlan`s is to seperate trafic .why have it running across the core..ONLY if you have say a MAN. core will send whatever data you tell it to send...its upto the dist layer to make the decision of what to send (core must be layer 3 though...multiaccess)otherwise it can`t route(i.e send over ATM FR) More then likely those Applications would be moved or duplicated in a closer >location, right? Cisco Press isn't real clear on this, or at least I'm not >getting it to well! Probably the latter... Thanks! yes you would find that apps required in both buildings...duped...i.e multiple mail servers.. I`m sure that this will be greatly disputed on the list.but in therory ...as i`ve not done it it COULD be done.BUt what you SHOULD do is stop all Vlan`s and the like at the DIST layer Sorry it`s so vauge...but last time i answered a question like this i was shot down on the list... steve >From: Michael Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Campus Networks - Real Life??? >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 06:03:18 -0700 > >Forgive my reiteration but what your telling me is the The entire >Heirarchical model can be found in One device just by using Modules? The >RSM >for layer 3 and the ATM card for Core functions. WOW. I thought that might >be the case but I wasn't sure. > >In addittion to this, all VLAN, VTP and HSRP can likewise be configured >with >this same set up and Multicasting can be handled this way as well, right? > >??? Does VLAN config extend to the core? I mean would I in real life ever >config a VLAN over a core to access a device in another building lets >say??? >More then likely those Applications would be moved or duplicated in a >closer >location, right? Cisco Press isn't real clear on this, or at least I'm not >getting it to well! Probably the latter... Thanks! > >Michael Garcia >Axient Communications >Phn 602-850-3091 >Fax 602-850-4091 > > >-Original Message- >From: Stephen Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 5:13 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Campus Networks - Real Life??? > > > >no remember that this is a conseptual model.toy can have all three >layers in one device ...a 5509 switch with an 48port10/100 (access layer) >an > >RSM (a 2600 in disguise ...which can handle distribution layer functions) >and an ATM card (which is core) all in the same device...it`s just easyier >to design a network when we use this model. > >REMBER that in order to handel dist layer you have to ROUTE...that means >4000-6000 (RSM)your 2900 dosent have the functionality > >HTH steve.CCNA/DA/CCSI/CCNP > > >From: "NEO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "NEO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Campus Networks - Real Life??? > >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:42:31 -0700 > > > >Got a question. In the Switch Block, is it really necessary to have a >2900 > >Catalyst at the Access and 4x00-6x00 at the Distribution Layer? Can't the > >Access/Dist link be handled in the Switches Fabric? Especially in Smaller > >Campus Networks? Larger Networks would seem to necessitate a Switch at >both > >layers connected by Fast Ethernet/Etherchannel/Gig Ethernet depending on > >the > >bandwidth requirements but certainly not in a small/medium Campus. Am I > >seeing that right? > >-- > >Michael S Garcia > >CCNA - MCP - CCNP (soon) > >Axient Communications > > > > > > > >_ > >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >___
Re: Campus Networks - Real Life???
Thanks Stephen!!! Helped a lot! I'll be taking the exam on Dec 8th! i'll let you know how I do... ""Stephen Skinner"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Michael worte... > > >In addittion to this, all VLAN, VTP and HSRP can likewise be configured > >with > >this same set up and Multicasting can be handled this way as well, right? > > well.if you had vlans between core devices being trunked (VTP) from dist > to coreyes( I THINK the group will disagree thoough) dist to access > layer you have Multicast domainsyes...HSRP at the dist level yesnot > really at the access...as for the coreyes...also that would work for > redundency > > remember it`s not a way to connect buildings together it just helps us > visualise what needs to be done > > >??? Does VLAN config extend to the core? I mean would I in real life ever > config a VLAN over a core to access a device in another building lets > say???. > > CCIE my mate says yes CAN be done...but don`t do it...the idea behind > Vlan`s is to seperate trafic .why have it running across the core..ONLY > if you have say a MAN. > > core will send whatever data you tell it to send...its upto the dist layer > to make the decision of what to send (core must be layer 3 > though...multiaccess)otherwise it can`t route(i.e send over ATM FR) > > > More then likely those Applications would be moved or duplicated in a closer > >location, right? Cisco Press isn't real clear on this, or at least I'm not > >getting it to well! Probably the latter... Thanks! > > yes you would find that apps required in both buildings...duped...i.e > multiple mail servers.. > > I`m sure that this will be greatly disputed on the list.but in therory > ...as i`ve not done it it COULD be done.BUt what you SHOULD do is stop > all Vlan`s and the like at the DIST layer > > Sorry it`s so vauge...but last time i answered a question like this i was > shot down on the list... > > > steve > >From: Michael Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: Campus Networks - Real Life??? > >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 06:03:18 -0700 > > > >Forgive my reiteration but what your telling me is the The entire > >Heirarchical model can be found in One device just by using Modules? The > >RSM > >for layer 3 and the ATM card for Core functions. WOW. I thought that might > >be the case but I wasn't sure. > > > >In addittion to this, all VLAN, VTP and HSRP can likewise be configured > >with > >this same set up and Multicasting can be handled this way as well, right? > > > >??? Does VLAN config extend to the core? I mean would I in real life ever > >config a VLAN over a core to access a device in another building lets > >say??? > >More then likely those Applications would be moved or duplicated in a > >closer > >location, right? Cisco Press isn't real clear on this, or at least I'm not > >getting it to well! Probably the latter... Thanks! > > > >Michael Garcia > >Axient Communications > >Phn 602-850-3091 > >Fax 602-850-4091 > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Stephen Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 5:13 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: Campus Networks - Real Life??? > > > > > > > >no remember that this is a conseptual model.toy can have all three > >layers in one device ...a 5509 switch with an 48port10/100 (access layer) > >an > > > >RSM (a 2600 in disguise ...which can handle distribution layer functions) > >and an ATM card (which is core) all in the same device...it`s just easyier > >to design a network when we use this model. > > > >REMBER that in order to handel dist layer you have to ROUTE...that means > >4000-6000 (RSM)your 2900 dosent have the functionality > > > >HTH steve.CCNA/DA/CCSI/CCNP > > > > >From: "NEO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: "NEO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: Campus Networks - Real Life??? > > >Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 02:42:31 -0700 > > > > > >Got a question. In the Switch Block, is it really necessary to have a > >2900 > > >Catalyst at the Access and 4x00-6x00 at the Distribution Layer? Can't
Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campus Networks [7:51290]
Folks, it is always a pleasure to read a well written technical book, and Troubleshooting Campus Networks is no exception. Priscilla Oppenheimer and co-author Joseph Bardwell have created an outstanding book, one which will occupy a place of honor on my bookshelf, right next to Top Down Network Design. This book goes into a lot of detail, making it an excellent choice for study and for life with real networks. Examples abound. As does good advice for design and troubleshooting. For example, in the chapter on switching, the authors point out good reasons why one should NOT directly link two core switches in a typical core / distribution / access design. Having seen many such designs where high level engineers with years of good experience have done just that, with the belief that more redundancy is better, it is nice to read a solid explanation of the opposite. >From what I have read so far, I am guessing that the actual writing was locked down six months ago. There is no discussion of the Cisco 3550 line of switches, no discussion of 802.1t STP extensions, and no discussion of 802.1q tunneling, for example, which if nothing else serves to show how fast this business continues to change. For those who think I am sucking up, you are absolutely right. I am. But only because I am thankful for the advice and guidance that PO has given to me and to many others on this list, both directly and indirectly. I want to ensure that the flow of good advice continues. :-> So check it out http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471210137/ref=pd_rhf_p_1/002-3394114 -4544058 watch the wrap This is most definitely a book for those looking for good solid information for work and for study. You will most definitely find both here. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51290&t=51290 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is 'troubleshooting campus networks' enough for CIT [7:66045]
Yes, it is a retransmit. I have already taken the test and passed by the way! I have also used the book to pass a couple of Sniffer Test. I think it is great. ___ Priscilla Oppenheimer www.troubleshootingnetworks.com www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=66045&t=66045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campus Networks [7:51301]
I agree, the book is good... I have not read all of it yet...but so far its another good work by Priscella and her co-author... Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck's Long Road Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 10:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Off Topic - First Look - Troubleshooting Campus Networks [7:51290] Folks, it is always a pleasure to read a well written technical book, and Troubleshooting Campus Networks is no exception. Priscilla Oppenheimer and co-author Joseph Bardwell have created an outstanding book, one which will occupy a place of honor on my bookshelf, right next to Top Down Network Design. This book goes into a lot of detail, making it an excellent choice for study and for life with real networks. Examples abound. As does good advice for design and troubleshooting. For example, in the chapter on switching, the authors point out good reasons why one should NOT directly link two core switches in a typical core / distribution / access design. Having seen many such designs where high level engineers with years of good experience have done just that, with the belief that more redundancy is better, it is nice to read a solid explanation of the opposite. >From what I have read so far, I am guessing that the actual writing was locked down six months ago. There is no discussion of the Cisco 3550 line of switches, no discussion of 802.1t STP extensions, and no discussion of 802.1q tunneling, for example, which if nothing else serves to show how fast this business continues to change. For those who think I am sucking up, you are absolutely right. I am. But only because I am thankful for the advice and guidance that PO has given to me and to many others on this list, both directly and indirectly. I want to ensure that the flow of good advice continues. :-> So check it out http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471210137/ref=pd_rhf_p_1/002-3394114 -4544058 watch the wrap This is most definitely a book for those looking for good solid information for work and for study. You will most definitely find both here. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=51301&t=51301 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
