Re: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-17 Thread Ben Lovegrove

--- Juan Blanco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Folks,
  
 I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and
 getting 100%
 score for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the
 CISCO
 online test and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is
 which
 test is the closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong
 here I
 though that when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON  I was
 ready to
 take the real one..
  
 Juan
  

Which test?
What subjects were you weak on?  The results sheet from the real test
should tell you which subject you were weak on.

Forgive my presumption, but do you believe you understand the material
or have you just memorised the answers on the Boson tests?

I have failed exams too, but passed them later after more study.  Use
the results of the real test to show you where you need more study and
practice.

HTH
Ben
 


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Re: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-17 Thread michael champion

Ben, I think that you misunderstood what Juan was saying. He said that he
failed the COLT practice test, not the real Cisco exam. Anyone can fail the
COLT tests because most of them are just plain terrible, as has been
attested to many others who have had no problems with the actual Cisco exams
but could not do well on the COLT tests.

Don't use your results on the COLT tests to determine whether you are ready
for the real exam.

JMHO

MLC

Ben Lovegrove [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 --- Juan Blanco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Folks,
 
  I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and
  getting 100%
  score for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the
  CISCO
  online test and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is
  which
  test is the closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong
  here I
  though that when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON  I was
  ready to
  take the real one..
 
  Juan
 

 Which test?
 What subjects were you weak on?  The results sheet from the real test
 should tell you which subject you were weak on.

 Forgive my presumption, but do you believe you understand the material
 or have you just memorised the answers on the Boson tests?

 I have failed exams too, but passed them later after more study.  Use
 the results of the real test to show you where you need more study and
 practice.

 HTH
 Ben



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Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread Juan Blanco



Folks,

 I 
have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and getting 100% score for 
my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the CISCO online test and 
what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is which test is the closest 
one to the real test..What I am doing wrong here I though that when you 
getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON I was ready to take the real 
one..

Juan



RE: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread McCallum, Robert



sorry 
folks, one of those days. Up to my ears in ISIS. anyhow, 
Juan, do not feel despondent, take from the exam the areas in which you 
are short in, get a book or other study method, study them for around a 
week and sit the exam again. I bet you'll pass it 
then.

Good 
luck.

  -Original Message-From: Juan Blanco 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 16 November 2000 
  13:41To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: Closest to the 
  real one...
  Folks,
  
   
  I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and getting 100% score 
  for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the CISCO online test 
  and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is which test is the 
  closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong here I though that 
  when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON I was ready to take the 
  real one..
  
  Juan
  


RE: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread McCallum, Robert



1st of 
all it might be good of you to tell us WHICH test you are writing 
about!

  -Original Message-From: Juan Blanco 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 16 November 2000 
  13:41To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: Closest to the 
  real one...
  Folks,
  
   
  I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and getting 100% score 
  for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the CISCO online test 
  and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is which test is the 
  closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong here I though that 
  when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON I was ready to take the 
  real one..
  
  Juan
  


RE: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread Peter_McCracken



Robert,

If you take any test enough times you will end up knowing all the answers
of by heart,
so you will answer without even thinking about the question really. Thats a
real problem
with these type of tests. It suprising how quickly one can "learn" the
answers to 600 questions.

Having said all that, I found that the boson tests related to the prometric
exam more closely than the
cisco online test did. This was for my CCNA bye the way.

What you should do is indentify your weak areas using the cisco online
tests and swot up on them.

I am currently studying for my BSCN, im using CB T's and info ripped from
the cisco web site. Ive also got the
boson tests, aint used them yet tho to test me i have some more
studying to do yet !!!

Let me know how you get on !!

regards, peter


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RE: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread Curtis Call

I used the Boson test #3 to practice for the BSCN and usually scored in the 80% range. 
 Yesterday I passed the BSCN with a score in the 900's.  So if you are getting 100% 
then I think you'll be ok on the test (you only need about 69% which is pretty sad if 
you think about it).


-Original Message-
From: Juan Blanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16 November 2000 13:41
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Closest to the real one...


Folks,
 
I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and getting 100%
score for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the CISCO
online test and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is which
test is the closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong here I
though that when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON  I was ready to
take the real one..
 
Juan
 




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Re: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread Patrick Bass



Why don't you just learn the material instead of 
memorzing a practice test?

  "Juan Blanco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Folks,
  
   
  I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and getting 100% score 
  for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the CISCO online test 
  and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is which test is the 
  closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong here I though that 
  when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON I was ready to take the 
  real one..
  
  Juan
  


Re: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread Martin-Guy Richard



Paper Cert, Paper Cert!
Patrick Bass wrote:

Why
don't you just learn the material instead of memorzing a practice test?
"Juan
Blanco" [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...Folks,
I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and getting 100%
score for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the CISCO
online test and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is which
test is the closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong here
I though that when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON I was
ready to take the real one..Juan


--
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Conseiller en Tlcommunication
Le Groupe CGI
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Tl. : (514) 841-3250 x4434
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Re: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread michael champion



As has been stated many times in this discussion 
group, the Cisco On-Line tests are, for the most part, terrible. Even Priscilla 
found them confusing, inaccurate, and in some cases just plain wrong! To prove 
this point, I took one of them OPEN BOOK and still just barely passed it! They 
are a pool of questions that were not accepted for the real exam, and they have 
incorrect answers, no correct answers, improper wording, things taken directly 
from a valid source and subsequentlyreworded to change the meaning, 
etc.

One test that I took had the 
following:

(1). 10 incorrect answers, as verified by looking 
up the answer.
(2). 8 wrongly worded questions - taken from a 
Cisco Press Book and then promptly incorrectly re-worded.
(3). 5 ambiguous questions - written in such a way 
that no answer given was correct.

This aloneis enough to make you fail the 
test. Just don't waste your time with them. If you score highly on them then the 
following is probably true:

(1). You are a lucky quesser - your quess was in 
fact incorrect but matched the wrong answer from the test.
(2). You don't really know the 
material.

Most of these tests are an embarrassment to Cisco, 
and if they are going to offer them they should correct them. But since they are 
meaningless anyway why bother?

JMHO

MLC

  Juan Blanco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Folks,
  
   
  I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and getting 100% score 
  for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the CISCO online test 
  and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is which test is the 
  closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong here I though that 
  when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON I was ready to take the 
  real one..
  
  Juan
  


Re: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread Raul F. Fernandez



Juan,

Which exam are you trying to take?

Raul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Juan Blanco 
  
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 
  Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 8:41 
  AM
  Subject: Closest to the real one...
  
  Folks,
  
   
  I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and getting 100% score 
  for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the CISCO online test 
  and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is which test is the 
  closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong here I though that 
  when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON I was ready to take the 
  real one..
  
  Juan
  


RE: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor

PAPER CERT PAPER CERT until it's you taking the exam.

-Original Message-
From: Martin-Guy Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 8:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Closest to the real one...


Paper Cert, Paper Cert! 

Patrick Bass wrote: 


Why don't you just learn the material instead of memorzing a practice test? 

"Juan Blanco"  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote in
message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...Folks,I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and
getting 100% score for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken
the CISCO online test and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question
is which test is the closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong
here I though that when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON  I was
ready to take the real one..Juan 

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Conseiller en Télécommunication 
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RE: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread Jon . E . Gudmundsson

I use this test usually a week before the exams that I take. I have used the
Colt exams for the Switching exam and for the remote access exam. It is good
for finding out your weak areas. What I do is that I print out every
question and when I get the results I read the question that I got wrong and
then read the chapter regarding this question again. And if I still do not
get it I try to find and read papers about it on the CCO. After that I take
the test again and do the same thing over. 
I can separate my study into few stages and this procedure has worked for
me.
1. I collect and read as much study material as I can find. I try to get the
Cisco Press book regarding the exam I am taking so I can see what material
is on the exam. For example I am now reading for the BSCN exam and I one of
the books that I bought was Building Scalable Cisco Networks by Catherine
Paqet.(the first 100 pages are good by the way)
The books that I am reading now for the BSCN are:
-Building Scalable Cisco Networks by Catherine paqet
-BSCN Building Scalable Cisco Networks by Tom Thomas II 
-CCIE Professional Development: Routing TCP/IP by Jeff Doyle
- Internet routing Architectures by Basam Halabi
- Advanced Routing Configuration student guide from the class (My former
colleague at work got it in the old ACRC class.
-BGP4 Inter-Domain Routing in the Internet by John W Stewart (I have already
read that one )
-Ospf Anatomy of the internet by Moy (I have already read that one so I will
just need it to brush up before the exam) 
2. After I have read the books I take the case studies and do them here at
work. Sometimes I do that while I am on step 2 so stages 1 and 2 get
somewhat mixed up. I try to take at least two weeks for case studies and
labs for each exam. I work with cisco routers so that helps immensely at
this stage.
3. Last one or two weeks before the exam I start preparing for the exam
itself. I do that by reading books that collect the material together like
The Choriolis Exam Cram and exam prep series. On this stage I take one or
two books from the reading part and read them again (Usually I read over the
summaries and the case studies). On this part I usually print out related
material from the CCO and read some RFCs. 
4) The last one week before each exam I take as many practice exams as I can
get my hands on. Boson,Colt and free practice exams on the net. 
And of course I read emails from this list on all stages 
I see the study procedure for each exam as a small step on my way to the
ultimate goal "To gain knowledge to be (hopefully) better in what I am
doing". That goal will reach far beyond the CCIE (s).
Hope this helps an good luck
 
Regards
Jon Eggert Gudmundsson 
MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,2/4 CCNP
Network Administrator 
Icelandic Banks Data Center 
 

-Original Message-
From: Juan Blanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 16. nóvember 2000 13:41
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Closest to the real one...


Folks,
 
I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and getting 100%
score for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the CISCO
online test and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is which
test is the closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong here I
though that when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON  I was ready to
take the real one..
 
Juan
 


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RE: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread Curtis Call

Boson has three different practice tests for each certification test.  They 
are all available in the same software package but you have to pay for each 
one individually.  I always just select one of the three test and use it 
but I think other people buy more than one practice test.


At 06:07 PM 11/16/00 -0600, you wrote:
When you said Boson test #3 what do you mean by the #3.

-Original Message-
From: Curtis Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 10:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Closest to the real one...


I used the Boson test #3 to practice for the BSCN and usually scored in the
80% range.  Yesterday I passed the BSCN with a score in the 900's.  So if
you are getting 100% then I think you'll be ok on the test (you only need
about 69% which is pretty sad if you think about it).


 -Original Message-
 From: Juan Blanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 16 November 2000 13:41
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: Closest to the real one...
 
 
 Folks,
 
 I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and getting
100%
 score for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the CISCO
 online test and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is which
 test is the closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong here I
 though that when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON  I was ready to
 take the real one..
 
 Juan
 
 
 
 

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RE: Closest to the real one...

2000-11-16 Thread Curtis Call

They are all written by different authors so all the questions will be 
different but they will all cover the same exam content.  I think you'd be 
ok buying any of the three although you can generally find someone with a 
preference for one test or the other.

At 06:57 PM 11/16/00 -0600, you wrote:
Thanks, I just download to my pc the complete download and I saw the number
of test, I will have to check when I get home and see which one I have, I
believe is test1..Any idea if they all have the same content...

-Original Message-
From: Curtis Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 7:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Closest to the real one...


Boson has three different practice tests for each certification test.  They
are all available in the same software package but you have to pay for each
one individually.  I always just select one of the three test and use it
but I think other people buy more than one practice test.


At 06:07 PM 11/16/00 -0600, you wrote:
 When you said Boson test #3 what do you mean by the #3.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Curtis Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 10:21 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Closest to the real one...
 
 
 I used the Boson test #3 to practice for the BSCN and usually scored in the
 80% range.  Yesterday I passed the BSCN with a score in the 900's.  So if
 you are getting 100% then I think you'll be ok on the test (you only need
 about 69% which is pretty sad if you think about it).
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Juan Blanco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: 16 November 2000 13:41
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: Closest to the real one...
  
  
  Folks,
  
  I have being taken the BOSON test for the last two week and getting
 100%
  score for my BSCN test. Yesterday I made the decision of taken the CISCO
  online test and what a disappoint I FAILED the test. My question is which
  test is the closest one to the real test..What I am doing wrong here
I
  though that when you getting 100% in all 4 test from BOSON  I was ready
to
  take the real one..
  
  Juan
  
  
  
  
 
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