Copy of My Official Post to Management on Thread
Hello, I have sent a post to the management team here and I am sending a copy of it for "whomever it concerns" or "is concerned" in reading it here to groupstudy, as I try to shoot a straight pistol, as we say in TX. The only thing that is not included in this e-mail is the thread of conversation that was included with the original to the hotline, which I am sure everyone is familiar with. I would also like to please ask people not to reply to anything else Mr.Skinner says about me. It does not matter. I am not responding anymore. I thank everyone for the support. I partly blame myself for allowing myself to be put in a situation where this could possibly occur. I like this group, and I hope I will continue to like it. I have learned a valuable lesson today and one which I will remember. Thank you, Jennifer Cribbs --- Good Afternoon, I have a problem I want to bring to someone's attention. I am enclosing a thread at the bottom of this e-mail that I wanted to send this for someone to read. There are multiple threads Mr Skinner has started listed in the digest from the last few issues and they are entitled "Boson vs Colt", or something similiar. Today, he make very derogatory remarks concerning three people and so I replied to him and called him on his disrespect. I have received numerous e-mails from other people on this list apologising for Mr.Skinner's reply mail to me which was very callous, and is why I am sending this. My first thought on this is that it should not be necessary for anyone to apologize for anyone else's e-mail. Noone is responsible for their actions except that person. This is supposed to be a list for people to learn and this man is taking up good server space with his games and is distracting the purpose of this groupstudy. And, I would like to point out that in the last mail he sent, which is at the top of this thread I am including, he specifically is saying he is here to play games with people. Anyone can be tempted, especially if their finances might be in trouble. Even for a $30.00 Boson test. But is this site resorting to "allowing" this type of game playing to go on with no repercussions of any kindHe is not here to learn. He is trying to get a rise out of people and distract people and test people in their basic principles of honesty and intregrity. And he has insulted me, and my husband! I truely enjoy this group, and I am trusting that someone will handle this properly and promptly. I would very much like a reply to this please and would also like to be informed of any action taken or of the occurance of any further actions regarding this. I feel a public post would be appropriate in this situation informing all members of whatever action is done or not done, since many are upset. I also am aware that I should not have been goaded into any type of response to this type of mail, but since it has occured, how do we handle it?? This is a very real problem. I hope you don't feel that this makes me a trouble-maker. I have never been labeled as such and would hate to give that impression, but I don't know what to do or how to handle this Thank you, Jennifer Cribbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] === -- Have a good day!!! Jennifer Cribbs _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copy of My Official Post to Management on Thread
So why post this crap to the newsgroup? Nobody cares about your personal problem. "Jennifer Cribbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hello, > > I have sent a post to the management team here and I am sending a copy of it > for "whomever it concerns" or "is concerned" in reading it here to > groupstudy, as I try to shoot a straight pistol, as we say in TX. The only > thing that is not included in this e-mail is the thread of conversation that > was included with the original to the hotline, which I am sure everyone is > familiar with. I would also like to please ask people not to reply to > anything else Mr.Skinner says about me. It does not matter. I am not > responding anymore. I thank everyone for the support. > > I partly blame myself for allowing myself to be put in a situation where this > could possibly occur. I like this group, and I hope I will continue to like > it. I have learned a valuable lesson today and one which I will remember. > > Thank you, > Jennifer Cribbs > --- > > Good Afternoon, > > I have a problem I want to bring to someone's attention. I am enclosing a > thread at the bottom of this e-mail that I wanted to send this for someone to > read. There are multiple threads Mr Skinner has started listed in the digest > from the last few issues and they are entitled "Boson vs Colt", or something > similiar. Today, he make very derogatory remarks concerning three people and > so I replied to him and called him on his disrespect. I have received > numerous e-mails from other people on this list apologising for Mr.Skinner's > reply mail to me which was very callous, and is why I am sending this. My > first thought on this is that it should not be necessary for anyone to > apologize for anyone else's e-mail. Noone is responsible for their actions > except that person. > > This is supposed to be a list for people to learn and this man is taking up > good server space with his games and is distracting the purpose of this > groupstudy. And, I would like to point out that in the last mail he sent, > which is at the top of this thread I am including, he specifically is saying > he is here to play games with people. Anyone can be tempted, especially if > their finances might be in trouble. Even for a $30.00 Boson test. But is > this site resorting to "allowing" this type of game playing to go on with no > repercussions of any kindHe is not here to learn. He is trying to get a > rise out of people and distract people and test people in their basic > principles of honesty and intregrity. And he has insulted me, and my > husband! > > I truely enjoy this group, and I am trusting that someone will handle this > properly and promptly. I would very much like a reply to this please and > would also like to be informed of any action taken or of the occurance of any > further actions regarding this. I feel a public post would be appropriate in > this situation informing all members of whatever action is done or not done, > since many are upset. > > I also am aware that I should not have been goaded into any type of response > to this type of mail, but since it has occured, how do we handle it?? This > is a very real problem. > > I hope you don't feel that this makes me a trouble-maker. I have never been > labeled as such and would hate to give that impression, but I don't know what > to do or how to handle this > > Thank you, > Jennifer Cribbs > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > === > > -- > Have a good day!!! > Jennifer Cribbs > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copy of My Official Post to Management on Thread
Those of us that have been on mailing-lists for many years have a name for the orginal message. Its called a troll. When someone trolls your list, you simply do not respond to it, as that is the purpose of the troll and get on with your lives. Some people have spent entirely too much time worrying about this when you don't even know if he even had a crack, and if he did fine. If you care, email him privately, if you don't, then you delete it. I'm just simply amazed at the amount of energy and time that went into this thread. This stuff just isn't that hard... andy On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Jennifer Cribbs wrote: > Hello, > > I have sent a post to the management team here and I am sending a copy of it > for "whomever it concerns" or "is concerned" in reading it here to > groupstudy, as I try to shoot a straight pistol, as we say in TX. The only > thing that is not included in this e-mail is the thread of conversation that > was included with the original to the hotline, which I am sure everyone is > familiar with. I would also like to please ask people not to reply to > anything else Mr.Skinner says about me. It does not matter. I am not > responding anymore. I thank everyone for the support. > > I partly blame myself for allowing myself to be put in a situation where this > could possibly occur. I like this group, and I hope I will continue to like > it. I have learned a valuable lesson today and one which I will remember. > > Thank you, > Jennifer Cribbs > --- > > Good Afternoon, > > I have a problem I want to bring to someone's attention. I am enclosing a > thread at the bottom of this e-mail that I wanted to send this for someone to > read. There are multiple threads Mr Skinner has started listed in the digest > from the last few issues and they are entitled "Boson vs Colt", or something > similiar. Today, he make very derogatory remarks concerning three people and > so I replied to him and called him on his disrespect. I have received > numerous e-mails from other people on this list apologising for Mr.Skinner's > reply mail to me which was very callous, and is why I am sending this. My > first thought on this is that it should not be necessary for anyone to > apologize for anyone else's e-mail. Noone is responsible for their actions > except that person. > > This is supposed to be a list for people to learn and this man is taking up > good server space with his games and is distracting the purpose of this > groupstudy. And, I would like to point out that in the last mail he sent, > which is at the top of this thread I am including, he specifically is saying > he is here to play games with people. Anyone can be tempted, especially if > their finances might be in trouble. Even for a $30.00 Boson test. But is > this site resorting to "allowing" this type of game playing to go on with no > repercussions of any kindHe is not here to learn. He is trying to get a > rise out of people and distract people and test people in their basic > principles of honesty and intregrity. And he has insulted me, and my > husband! > > I truely enjoy this group, and I am trusting that someone will handle this > properly and promptly. I would very much like a reply to this please and > would also like to be informed of any action taken or of the occurance of any > further actions regarding this. I feel a public post would be appropriate in > this situation informing all members of whatever action is done or not done, > since many are upset. > > I also am aware that I should not have been goaded into any type of response > to this type of mail, but since it has occured, how do we handle it?? This > is a very real problem. > > I hope you don't feel that this makes me a trouble-maker. I have never been > labeled as such and would hate to give that impression, but I don't know what > to do or how to handle this > > Thank you, > Jennifer Cribbs > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > === > > -- > Have a good day!!! > Jennifer Cribbs > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copy of My Official Post to Management on Thread
I agree. When it comes to trolls and other threads such as these, sometimes the best course of action is to do nothing but hit the delete button. This is the "Let it drop because no one will remember it in a couple of days, anyway" philosophy. Ignore trolls and they often go away. If they don't, then into the kill file they go. just my $.01 after taxes, John > > Those of us that have been on mailing-lists for many years have a name for > the orginal message. Its called a troll. When someone trolls your list, > you simply do not respond to it, as that is the purpose of the troll and > get on with your lives. Some people have spent entirely too much time > worrying about this when you don't even know if he even had a crack, and > if he did fine. If you care, email him privately, if you don't, then > you delete it. I'm just simply amazed at the amount of energy and time > that went into this thread. This stuff just isn't that hard... > > andy > > On Fri, 12 Jan 2001, Jennifer Cribbs wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I have sent a post to the management team here and I am sending a copy of it > > for "whomever it concerns" or "is concerned" in reading it here to > > groupstudy, as I try to shoot a straight pistol, as we say in TX. The only > > thing that is not included in this e-mail is the thread of conversation that > > was included with the original to the hotline, which I am sure everyone is > > familiar with. I would also like to please ask people not to reply to > > anything else Mr.Skinner says about me. It does not matter. I am not > > responding anymore. I thank everyone for the support. > > > > I partly blame myself for allowing myself to be put in a situation where this > > could possibly occur. I like this group, and I hope I will continue to like > > it. I have learned a valuable lesson today and one which I will remember. > > > > Thank you, > > Jennifer Cribbs > > --- > > > > Good Afternoon, > > > > I have a problem I want to bring to someone's attention. I am enclosing a > > thread at the bottom of this e-mail that I wanted to send this for someone to > > read. There are multiple threads Mr Skinner has started listed in the digest > > from the last few issues and they are entitled "Boson vs Colt", or something > > similiar. Today, he make very derogatory remarks concerning three people and > > so I replied to him and called him on his disrespect. I have received > > numerous e-mails from other people on this list apologising for Mr.Skinner's > > reply mail to me which was very callous, and is why I am sending this. My > > first thought on this is that it should not be necessary for anyone to > > apologize for anyone else's e-mail. Noone is responsible for their actions > > except that person. > > > > This is supposed to be a list for people to learn and this man is taking up > > good server space with his games and is distracting the purpose of this > > groupstudy. And, I would like to point out that in the last mail he sent, > > which is at the top of this thread I am including, he specifically is saying > > he is here to play games with people. Anyone can be tempted, especially if > > their finances might be in trouble. Even for a $30.00 Boson test. But is > > this site resorting to "allowing" this type of game playing to go on with no > > repercussions of any kindHe is not here to learn. He is trying to get a > > rise out of people and distract people and test people in their basic > > principles of honesty and intregrity. And he has insulted me, and my > > husband! > > > > I truely enjoy this group, and I am trusting that someone will handle this > > properly and promptly. I would very much like a reply to this please and > > would also like to be informed of any action taken or of the occurance of any > > further actions regarding this. I feel a public post would be appropriate in > > this situation informing all members of whatever action is done or not done, > > since many are upset. > > > > I also am aware that I should not have been goaded into any type of response > > to this type of mail, but since it has occured, how do we handle it?? This > > is a very real problem. > > > > I hope you don't feel that this makes me a trouble-maker. I have never been > > labeled as such and would hate to give that impression, but I don't know what > > to do or how to handle this > > > > Thank you, > > Jennifer Cribbs > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > === > > > > -- > > Have a good day!!! > > Jennifer Cribbs > > > > > > _ > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PR
Re: Copy of My Official Post to Management on Thread
Management team? How come I am the only one that shows up to the meetings :-). Ok few things you all should have learned in Kindergarten: 1. No stealing 2. Play nice Please do not violate either rule. Ok, now for the good news. I am currently in the process of writing software that will allow a group of people to moderate the list. How this will work is the software will select messages it believes are a violation of the list rules to be sent to the moderation team before distribution. The software does that now except there is no moderation team, hence it gets suck in queue. About once every six months I check the queue and say "Dam that is a lot of messages". So now there will actually be someone looking at the messages. If we have a large enough team, the delay should not be that noticeable. The software is finished I just need to debug it. I normally like to take a hands off approach to the list and not make myself to visible. But in this case I am going to make an executive decision to block, for the time, any message relating to Boson products. This will hopefully kill the threads. Please do not be upset if your insightful and witty reply does not make it to the list. Remember it is a big dumb program that rejected the message, not a human. Take care, Paul Borghese - Original Message - From: "Jennifer Cribbs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:21 PM Subject: Copy of My Official Post to Management on Thread > Hello, > > I have sent a post to the management team here and I am sending a copy of it > for "whomever it concerns" or "is concerned" in reading it here to > groupstudy, as I try to shoot a straight pistol, as we say in TX. The only > thing that is not included in this e-mail is the thread of conversation that > was included with the original to the hotline, which I am sure everyone is > familiar with. I would also like to please ask people not to reply to > anything else Mr.Skinner says about me. It does not matter. I am not > responding anymore. I thank everyone for the support. > > I partly blame myself for allowing myself to be put in a situation where this > could possibly occur. I like this group, and I hope I will continue to like > it. I have learned a valuable lesson today and one which I will remember. > > Thank you, > Jennifer Cribbs > --- > > Good Afternoon, > > I have a problem I want to bring to someone's attention. I am enclosing a > thread at the bottom of this e-mail that I wanted to send this for someone to > read. There are multiple threads Mr Skinner has started listed in the digest > from the last few issues and they are entitled "Boson vs Colt", or something > similiar. Today, he make very derogatory remarks concerning three people and > so I replied to him and called him on his disrespect. I have received > numerous e-mails from other people on this list apologising for Mr.Skinner's > reply mail to me which was very callous, and is why I am sending this. My > first thought on this is that it should not be necessary for anyone to > apologize for anyone else's e-mail. Noone is responsible for their actions > except that person. > > This is supposed to be a list for people to learn and this man is taking up > good server space with his games and is distracting the purpose of this > groupstudy. And, I would like to point out that in the last mail he sent, > which is at the top of this thread I am including, he specifically is saying > he is here to play games with people. Anyone can be tempted, especially if > their finances might be in trouble. Even for a $30.00 Boson test. But is > this site resorting to "allowing" this type of game playing to go on with no > repercussions of any kindHe is not here to learn. He is trying to get a > rise out of people and distract people and test people in their basic > principles of honesty and intregrity. And he has insulted me, and my > husband! > > I truely enjoy this group, and I am trusting that someone will handle this > properly and promptly. I would very much like a reply to this please and > would also like to be informed of any action taken or of the occurance of any > further actions regarding this. I feel a public post would be appropriate in > this situation informing all members of whatever action is done or not done, > since many are upset. > > I also am aware that I should not have been goaded into any type of response > to this type of mail, but since it has occured, how do we handle it?? This > is a very real problem. > > I hope you don't feel that this makes me a trouble-maker. I have never been > labeled as such a