Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...
Why dont you put up a case study and ask some questions and I bet a good string will start. I agree with you their should be more technical info and less personal study questions. People should just read the string and most of the questions will be answered. Duck - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: whatshakin ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 8:27 PM Subject: RE: Dealing with the garbage mail... naw, this newsgroup is for asking the same questions every day - how many questions are on the test, what's the best book, which book should I read, how much salary can I expect, why doesn't hyperterminal do a control-break, etc, etc, etc. what's the problem? :- chuck -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of whatshakinSent: Friday, July 28, 2000 7:42 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Dealing with the garbage mail... From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: Cisco certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. Thank You. If everyone else would can thisresponse anduse it when they see errant posts we can get it done quickly and comprehensively. As long as we stop answering all the questions they should go away...hopefully. Further, if everyone uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email clients to avoidthem ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send the replies directly to the original poster so the group does not have to endure them. What do you folks think?
Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...
We do not sell the mailing list addresses to anyone. Of course it is very difficult to stop someone from subscribing to the list and copying any e-mail address that posts. But in a few weeks I will have an answer for that as well. Paul Borghese - Original Message - From: "Natasha" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "whatshakin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 11:41 PM Subject: Re: Dealing with the garbage mail... Hi Gang-O-Mine One thing that I have been getting since posting here is private email from headhunters and various companies trying to sell me network related equipment and services. Since this is the only network related group that I belong to somebody out there must be copying email addresses. Hmm This seems to be a result of being an open group and the delete key works just fine. As long as any Cisco certification related questions have something in the subject line indicating that's what they are then I personally see no problem here. (The delete key again.) I see these type of questions as being that of a frightened future CCXX's wanting to know what to expect. We've all been there! I'm there now with an exam tomorrow morning, Saturday. Having this list or newsgroup for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only is all well and good but that is up to the administrator. Personally I find holding the position of mentor to be feeding a starving Karma. whatshakin wrote: From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: etc. -- Natasha Flazynski http://www.ciscobot.com My Cisco information site. http://www.botbuilders.com Artificial Intelligence and Linux development A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...
Umm I though this was what the list was for the dcom news group would be for the tech stuff ..?? Oz http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm Cisco certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. Thank You ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...
I am feeling like ripe idiot at this time :-0 When I posted the original message I posted it to the wrong group! It was intended for the comp.dcom.sys.cisco mob. 1000 apologies.I have been working on some labs for the last couple of hours and did not notice I seem to have started a little something here. That said, it wouldn't do any harm to do something about the25% of duplicate garbage that hits this list either.
Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...
/ After reading Priscilla's post, I'd say each and every paragraph is violated daily. \ -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, July 29, 2000 2:07 AM Subject: Re: Dealing with the garbage mail... Does this look familiar? It's the message you got when you signed up for groupstudy. Welcome to the Cisco Certification List! This list is designed to allow a group discussion of various topics related to Cisco's certification programs. I used the name GroupStudy.com to convey a sense of mutual collaboration between the members. If you are baffled with a particular scenario, present the problem to the entire group so we may all work together at solving the problem. By using the power of the Internet we can work together far more efficiently then as individuals. If you want to send a message to the list, send a plain-text e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because not everyone has a html enabled mail-reader, try and refrain from using html encoded messages. This mailing list also has a companion website at: http://www.groupstudy.com The website contains links to various FAQs and a searchabe archive of the list. Welcome to [EMAIL PROTECTED]! Paul Borghese --- Here are some guidelines for posting: Verify the topic has not already been covered by searching the archives at http://www.groupstudy.com Verify the post is relevant to studying for Cisco Certifications. Please submit more general questions to the newsgroup comp.dcom.sys.cisco or the Cisco TAC. A post should not begin with "I have a client who is trying to..." (Unless of course that client is trying to pass the CCIE and has some relevant piece of information for the list members) Do not post commercial advertisements concerning some product you are trying to sell to the list members. If you would like to offer the list members a discount for your product, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for further instructions. Double check the archives at http://www.groupstudy.com to verify your question/topic has not already been covered. Do not post copyrighted material that you do not own without prior approval from the copyright holder. Remain courteous to your fellow list members. Check the tone of your post to verify it can not be viewed as anything else but courteous and friendly. Because inflection is not carried across the written word, a post you view as friendly may be taken by another list member as a flame. In general, the message body should be longer then the signature. Re-read your message before posting to verify it will be of interest to the other list members. Never send a message directed to a single list member through the mailing list. Please e-mail that member directly. Always check the archives at http://www.groupstudy.com before posting! At 07:42 PM 7/28/00, whatshakin wrote: From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: Cisco certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. Thank You. If everyone else would can this response and use it when they see errant posts we can get it done quickly and comprehensively. As long as we stop answering all the questions they should go away...hopefully. Further, if everyone uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email clients to avoid them ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send the replies directly to the original poster so the group does not have to endure them. What do you folks think? Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...
Here's my cut: I don't know about ya'll, but I get >150 daily from this list. I agree absolutely and completely with Kevin; that is, I have long ago grown weary of "How many questions?" ... "I just passed my [fill in blank]" even more, folks asking even the most rudimentary question without so much as trying any of a bazillion, readily available reference sources. I'm tolerant of newbies novices, but not when you have to spoon feed the little guys ... . that's called LAZY, and PLEASE do a little homework before posting ... Also, PLEASE, this is not an online auction or flea market. Don't ask where you can "getta" and PLEASE STOP using this forum for discount sales. It's disrespectful and calls your professional ethics into question. Likewise, "Integrator Wanted!" you gotta be frickin' kidding me! You can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a head-hunter. If you'd like a mailing list, please ping me in private, but PLEASE! This is not a friggin' JOB POST. "I'm a CCNA 2.0" "What's to become of my CCNA 1.0 cerification" "CCNA expires" Look, I really am glad for you and you've demonstrated an admirable commitment which enhances ALL of our credibility. BE GIDDY SOMEWHERE ELSE! Call your friends, shout from the mountain top!! PLEASE, for crying out loud, take it where it belongs. and that AIN'T HERE. Lastly, please do not drag the earnest participants of this list down with clever demonstrations of your social aptitude. IOW: two sentence banterings are a major p.i.t.a. Contribute something or hit the bricks. honest. Very sincerely, Rainman Kevin Wigle wrote: hmmm - I thought this list was for certification questions and help making sense out of exam questions and understanding why this answer is wrong and that one is right.Actually, this list is not for technical inquiries. You normally pay someone for that. (unless Howard rescues you and puts the question into a certification compatible form :-) )I would prefer that our FAQ be updated and then I would agree to the blunt answer like: Read the FAQ! for questions about how many questions, passing score, how long, etc.my take anyway.Kevin WigleCCDP, CCNP.. - Original Message - From: whatshakin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 28 July, 2000 22:42 Subject: Dealing with the garbage mail... From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt:Cisco certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. Thank You.If everyone else would can this response and use it when they see errant posts we can get it done quickly and comprehensively. As long as we stop answering all the questions they should go away...hopefully. Further, if everyone uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email clients to avoid them ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send the replies directly to the original poster so the group does not have to endure them.What do you folks think?
Dealing with the garbage mail...
From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: Cisco certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. Thank You. If everyone else would can thisresponse anduse it when they see errant posts we can get it done quickly and comprehensively. As long as we stop answering all the questions they should go away...hopefully. Further, if everyone uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email clients to avoidthem ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send the replies directly to the original poster so the group does not have to endure them. What do you folks think?
Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...
hmmm - I thought this list was for certification questions and help making sense out of exam questions and understanding why this answer is wrong and that one is right. Actually, this list is not for technical inquiries. You normally pay someone for that. (unless Howard rescues you and puts the question into a certification compatible form :-) ) I would prefer that our FAQ be updated and then I would agree to the blunt answer like: Read the FAQ! for questions about how many questions, passing score, how long, etc. my take anyway. Kevin Wigle CCDP, CCNP.. - Original Message - From: whatshakin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 28 July, 2000 22:42 Subject: Dealing with the garbage mail... From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: Cisco certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. Thank You. If everyone else would can thisresponse anduse it when they see errant posts we can get it done quickly and comprehensively. As long as we stop answering all the questions they should go away...hopefully. Further, if everyone uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email clients to avoidthem ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send the replies directly to the original poster so the group does not have to endure them. What do you folks think?
RE: Dealing with the garbage mail...
naw, this newsgroup is for asking the same questions every day - how many questions are on the test, what's the best book, which book should I read, how much salary can I expect, why doesn't hyperterminal do a control-break, etc, etc, etc. what's the problem? :- chuck -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of whatshakinSent: Friday, July 28, 2000 7:42 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Dealing with the garbage mail... From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: Cisco certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. Thank You. If everyone else would can thisresponse anduse it when they see errant posts we can get it done quickly and comprehensively. As long as we stop answering all the questions they should go away...hopefully. Further, if everyone uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email clients to avoidthem ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send the replies directly to the original poster so the group does not have to endure them. What do you folks think?
Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...
Ok, so where's the technical Cisco newsgroup these days Chuck? - Original Message - From: Chuck Larrieu To: whatshakin ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 8:27 PM Subject: RE: Dealing with the garbage mail... naw, this newsgroup is for asking the same questions every day - how many questions are on the test, what's the best book, which book should I read, how much salary can I expect, why doesn't hyperterminal do a control-break, etc, etc, etc. what's the problem? :- chuck -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of whatshakinSent: Friday, July 28, 2000 7:42 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Dealing with the garbage mail... From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: Cisco certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. Thank You. If everyone else would can thisresponse anduse it when they see errant posts we can get it done quickly and comprehensively. As long as we stop answering all the questions they should go away...hopefully. Further, if everyone uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email clients to avoidthem ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send the replies directly to the original poster so the group does not have to endure them. What do you folks think?
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I thought that was what alt.certification.cisco was all about. Do we really need duplicate newsgroups? - Original Message - From: Kevin Wigle To: whatshakin ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Dealing with the garbage mail... hmmm - I thought this list was for certification questions and help making sense out of exam questions and understanding why this answer is wrong and that one is right. Actually, this list is not for technical inquiries. You normally pay someone for that. (unless Howard rescues you and puts the question into a certification compatible form :-) ) I would prefer that our FAQ be updated and then I would agree to the blunt answer like: Read the FAQ! for questions about how many questions, passing score, how long, etc. my take anyway. Kevin Wigle CCDP, CCNP.. - Original Message - From: whatshakin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 28 July, 2000 22:42 Subject: Dealing with the garbage mail... From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: Cisco certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. Thank You. If everyone else would can thisresponse anduse it when they see errant posts we can get it done quickly and comprehensively. As long as we stop answering all the questions they should go away...hopefully. Further, if everyone uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email clients to avoidthem ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send the replies directly to the original poster so the group does not have to endure them. What do you folks think?
Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...
Hi Gang-O-Mine One thing that I have been getting since posting here is private email from headhunters and various companies trying to sell me network related equipment and services. Since this is the only network related group that I belong to somebody out there must be copying email addresses. Hmm This seems to be a result of being an open group and the delete key works just fine. As long as any Cisco certification related questions have something in the subject line indicating that's what they are then I personally see no problem here. (The delete key again.) I see these type of questions as being that of a frightened future CCXX's wanting to know what to expect. We've all been there! I'm there now with an exam tomorrow morning, Saturday. Having this list or newsgroup for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only is all well and good but that is up to the administrator. Personally I find holding the position of mentor to be feeding a starving Karma. whatshakin wrote: From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: etc. -- Natasha Flazynski http://www.ciscobot.com My Cisco information site. http://www.botbuilders.com Artificial Intelligence and Linux development A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...
On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, whatshakin wrote: Ok, so where's the technical Cisco newsgroup these days Chuck? Same place it's always been. comp.dcom.sys.cisco (I believe also mirrored to cisco-spot listserver). -- Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi- As much as I like this gang, comp.dcom.sys.cisco does get into some deeper aspects of a subject. It's just another tool to me. Adios, Dale Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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/ I agree with you KW. For a moment I thought I was under the wrong impression as to the purpose of GROUPSTUDY. Just an old dog trying to learn new tricks. \ -Original Message-From: Kevin Wigle [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: whatshakin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Friday, July 28, 2000 11:43 PMSubject: Re: Dealing with the garbage mail... hmmm - I thought this list was for certification questions and help making sense out of exam questions and understanding why this answer is wrong and that one is right. Actually, this list is not for technical inquiries. You normally pay someone for that. (unless Howard rescues you and puts the question into a certification compatible form :-) ) I would prefer that our FAQ be updated and then I would agree to the blunt answer like: Read the FAQ! for questions about how many questions, passing score, how long, etc. my take anyway. Kevin Wigle CCDP, CCNP.. - Original Message - From: whatshakin To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 28 July, 2000 22:42 Subject: Dealing with the garbage mail... From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: Cisco certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. Thank You. If everyone else would can thisresponse anduse it when they see errant posts we can get it done quickly and comprehensively. As long as we stop answering all the questions they should go away...hopefully. Further, if everyone uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email clients to avoidthem ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send the replies directly to the original poster so the group does not have to endure them. What do you folks think?
Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...
Does this look familiar? It's the message you got when you signed up for groupstudy. Welcome to the Cisco Certification List! This list is designed to allow a group discussion of various topics related to Cisco's certification programs. I used the name GroupStudy.com to convey a sense of mutual collaboration between the members. If you are baffled with a particular scenario, present the problem to the entire group so we may all work together at solving the problem. By using the power of the Internet we can work together far more efficiently then as individuals. If you want to send a message to the list, send a plain-text e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because not everyone has a html enabled mail-reader, try and refrain from using html encoded messages. This mailing list also has a companion website at: http://www.groupstudy.com The website contains links to various FAQs and a searchabe archive of the list. Welcome to [EMAIL PROTECTED]! Paul Borghese --- Here are some guidelines for posting: Verify the topic has not already been covered by searching the archives at http://www.groupstudy.com Verify the post is relevant to studying for Cisco Certifications. Please submit more general questions to the newsgroup comp.dcom.sys.cisco or the Cisco TAC. A post should not begin with "I have a client who is trying to..." (Unless of course that client is trying to pass the CCIE and has some relevant piece of information for the list members) Do not post commercial advertisements concerning some product you are trying to sell to the list members. If you would like to offer the list members a discount for your product, please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for further instructions. Double check the archives at http://www.groupstudy.com to verify your question/topic has not already been covered. Do not post copyrighted material that you do not own without prior approval from the copyright holder. Remain courteous to your fellow list members. Check the tone of your post to verify it can not be viewed as anything else but courteous and friendly. Because inflection is not carried across the written word, a post you view as friendly may be taken by another list member as a flame. In general, the message body should be longer then the signature. Re-read your message before posting to verify it will be of interest to the other list members. Never send a message directed to a single list member through the mailing list. Please e-mail that member directly. Always check the archives at http://www.groupstudy.com before posting! At 07:42 PM 7/28/00, whatshakin wrote: From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: Cisco certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. Thank You. If everyone else would can this response and use it when they see errant posts we can get it done quickly and comprehensively. As long as we stop answering all the questions they should go away...hopefully. Further, if everyone uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email clients to avoid them ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send the replies directly to the original poster so the group does not have to endure them. What do you folks think? Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
