Re: E1 interface [7:12864]

2001-07-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Matt,

 Note: if the carrier will only give you a G703 (balanced or
unbalanced) interface, you may want to order a G.703 network module
(NM-1CE1B or NM-1CE1U).   In the U.K., we got an X.21 handoff from the
carrier; however, the Promina conversion unit they used to convert from
G.703 caused us to lose two DS0 channels on the E1.  Int this case, the
carrier was Concert and the E1's were between France and the U.K.   The
French side of the circuits were able to give us all channels with an X.21
handoff. So, bottomline, I recommend finding out what the carriers
prefers and configuring your router with the appropriate interface to
match.   I.e. for X.21 and V.35 standard old serial module (NM-4T, WIC-1T,
WIC-2T, etc.) or for G.703 use a channelized E1/ISDN PRI interface
(NM-1CE1B, NM-2CE1B, NM-2CE1U, etc.).

 --Jon





"Gareth Hinton" @groupstudy.com on 07/18/2001
09:19:49 PM

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Matt,

WIC-1T will do the trick. Just make sure of how the provider will terminate
the circuit. You can usually ask to have it terminated as X21 - 15 way
D-Type, so a standard CABX21MT  cable will do.
Another alternative is that they terminate it G703 coax and you use a G703
to X21 converter.

HTH

Gaz


""Matt""  wrote in message
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> OK, so do you know the actual serial interface that I should order
assuming
> that they will provide the CSU/DSU?  Is there a WIC-E1?  I can't find it.
> Thanks, by the way, you guys are a huge help...
>
>
> ""Winchester, Derek""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Correct. All you need is a serial interface. If you ask for a T1 or a
E1
> > they will always offer you a Pri or multiflex. Serial is the only
> interface
> > you should ask for when using a T1 or E1
> >
> > Derek S. Winchester
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:22 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: E1 interface [7:12864]
> >
> >
> > My experience is that in Europe the Telco provides the CSU/DSU. They
> should
> > hand off to you as V.35 so all you need is a serial port. Verify this.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:54 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: E1 interface [7:12864]
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey, I know that this sounds dumb, but I've never had to
> > > install, configure,
> > > or support an E1 interface.  So today I went to put together
> > > a sales order
> > > for someone installing a router in Europe, and the only E1
> > > interfaces I can
> > > find are PRI and multiflex (?) for doing voice and data.
> > > Obviously I need
> > > to get more info from the provider over there, but I'm
> > > wondering what I'm
> > > missing.  With a T1 interface, you just have to decide
> > > whether or not it
> > > gets an internal CSU/DSU or not and then order a WIC-T1 or a
> > > WIC-1DSU-T1.
> > > Help!
> > > Report misconduct
> > > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: E1 interface [7:12864]

2001-07-19 Thread Matthew Crane

Hi Matt

Hm, having seen some of the replies you have had I wander just how many
people have actualyl used an E1, not many of thnose replying for sure.

1. Is it a genuine E1 and if so how many channels or is it a variant called
ISDN-30 and is the line being supplied balanced or unbalanced.
E1 usually comes in bundles of 32 channels, 30 for data/voice and 2
signalling channels. ISDN-30 is a simple 30 channels with 29 for data/voice.
This really only affects the timeslopts allocated and the control channel
you refer to in the configuration. Generally you only go for balanced.

2. Which router are you proposing ? - I'd suggest a 2600 as the minimum with
an NM-1CE1B module. The WIC-1T just will not cut it.

3. In most European countries the presentation will be either twin coax or
RJ48 socket which requires an RJ45 plug.

If you wnat to take this offline then let me know I can also supply with
some sample configurations for E1 and ISDN-30 taken from some of my customers.

Cheers

Matt wrote:
> 
> Hey, I know that this sounds dumb, but I've never had to
> install, configure,
> or support an E1 interface.  So today I went to put together a
> sales order
> for someone installing a router in Europe, and the only E1
> interfaces I can
> find are PRI and multiflex (?) for doing voice and data. 
> Obviously I need
> to get more info from the provider over there, but I'm
> wondering what I'm
> missing.  With a T1 interface, you just have to decide whether
> or not it
> gets an internal CSU/DSU or not and then order a WIC-T1 or a
> WIC-1DSU-T1.
> Help!
> 
> 




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Re: E1 interface [7:12864]

2001-07-18 Thread Gareth Hinton

Matt,

WIC-1T will do the trick. Just make sure of how the provider will terminate
the circuit. You can usually ask to have it terminated as X21 - 15 way
D-Type, so a standard CABX21MT  cable will do.
Another alternative is that they terminate it G703 coax and you use a G703
to X21 converter.

HTH

Gaz


""Matt""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> OK, so do you know the actual serial interface that I should order
assuming
> that they will provide the CSU/DSU?  Is there a WIC-E1?  I can't find it.
> Thanks, by the way, you guys are a huge help...
>
>
> ""Winchester, Derek""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Correct. All you need is a serial interface. If you ask for a T1 or a E1
> > they will always offer you a Pri or multiflex. Serial is the only
> interface
> > you should ask for when using a T1 or E1
> >
> > Derek S. Winchester
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:22 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: E1 interface [7:12864]
> >
> >
> > My experience is that in Europe the Telco provides the CSU/DSU. They
> should
> > hand off to you as V.35 so all you need is a serial port. Verify this.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:54 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: E1 interface [7:12864]
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey, I know that this sounds dumb, but I've never had to
> > > install, configure,
> > > or support an E1 interface.  So today I went to put together
> > > a sales order
> > > for someone installing a router in Europe, and the only E1
> > > interfaces I can
> > > find are PRI and multiflex (?) for doing voice and data.
> > > Obviously I need
> > > to get more info from the provider over there, but I'm
> > > wondering what I'm
> > > missing.  With a T1 interface, you just have to decide
> > > whether or not it
> > > gets an internal CSU/DSU or not and then order a WIC-T1 or a
> > > WIC-1DSU-T1.
> > > Help!
> > > Report misconduct
> > > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: E1 interface [7:12864]

2001-07-18 Thread Daniel Cotts

A plain old WIC-1T. It can run up to E-1 speed.

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:59 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: E1 interface [7:12864]
> 
> 
> OK, so do you know the actual serial interface that I should 
> order assuming
> that they will provide the CSU/DSU?  Is there a WIC-E1?  I 
> can't find it.
> Thanks, by the way, you guys are a huge help...
> 
> 
> ""Winchester, Derek""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Correct. All you need is a serial interface. If you ask for 
> a T1 or a E1
> > they will always offer you a Pri or multiflex. Serial is the only
> interface
> > you should ask for when using a T1 or E1
> >
> > Derek S. Winchester
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:22 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: E1 interface [7:12864]
> >
> >
> > My experience is that in Europe the Telco provides the CSU/DSU. They
> should
> > hand off to you as V.35 so all you need is a serial port. 
> Verify this.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:54 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: E1 interface [7:12864]
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey, I know that this sounds dumb, but I've never had to
> > > install, configure,
> > > or support an E1 interface.  So today I went to put together
> > > a sales order
> > > for someone installing a router in Europe, and the only E1
> > > interfaces I can
> > > find are PRI and multiflex (?) for doing voice and data.
> > > Obviously I need
> > > to get more info from the provider over there, but I'm
> > > wondering what I'm
> > > missing.  With a T1 interface, you just have to decide
> > > whether or not it
> > > gets an internal CSU/DSU or not and then order a WIC-T1 or a
> > > WIC-1DSU-T1.
> > > Help!
> > > Report misconduct
> > > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Report misconduct 
> and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: E1 interface [7:12864]

2001-07-18 Thread Matt

OK, so do you know the actual serial interface that I should order assuming
that they will provide the CSU/DSU?  Is there a WIC-E1?  I can't find it.
Thanks, by the way, you guys are a huge help...


""Winchester, Derek""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Correct. All you need is a serial interface. If you ask for a T1 or a E1
> they will always offer you a Pri or multiflex. Serial is the only
interface
> you should ask for when using a T1 or E1
>
> Derek S. Winchester
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: E1 interface [7:12864]
>
>
> My experience is that in Europe the Telco provides the CSU/DSU. They
should
> hand off to you as V.35 so all you need is a serial port. Verify this.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:54 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: E1 interface [7:12864]
> >
> >
> > Hey, I know that this sounds dumb, but I've never had to
> > install, configure,
> > or support an E1 interface.  So today I went to put together
> > a sales order
> > for someone installing a router in Europe, and the only E1
> > interfaces I can
> > find are PRI and multiflex (?) for doing voice and data.
> > Obviously I need
> > to get more info from the provider over there, but I'm
> > wondering what I'm
> > missing.  With a T1 interface, you just have to decide
> > whether or not it
> > gets an internal CSU/DSU or not and then order a WIC-T1 or a
> > WIC-1DSU-T1.
> > Help!
> > Report misconduct
> > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: E1 interface [7:12864]

2001-07-18 Thread Winchester, Derek

Correct. All you need is a serial interface. If you ask for a T1 or a E1
they will always offer you a Pri or multiflex. Serial is the only interface
you should ask for when using a T1 or E1

Derek S. Winchester


-Original Message-
From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: E1 interface [7:12864]


My experience is that in Europe the Telco provides the CSU/DSU. They should
hand off to you as V.35 so all you need is a serial port. Verify this.

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: E1 interface [7:12864]
> 
> 
> Hey, I know that this sounds dumb, but I've never had to 
> install, configure,
> or support an E1 interface.  So today I went to put together 
> a sales order
> for someone installing a router in Europe, and the only E1 
> interfaces I can
> find are PRI and multiflex (?) for doing voice and data.  
> Obviously I need
> to get more info from the provider over there, but I'm 
> wondering what I'm
> missing.  With a T1 interface, you just have to decide 
> whether or not it
> gets an internal CSU/DSU or not and then order a WIC-T1 or a 
> WIC-1DSU-T1.
> Help!
> Report misconduct 
> and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: E1 interface [7:12864]

2001-07-18 Thread Daniel Cotts

My experience is that in Europe the Telco provides the CSU/DSU. They should
hand off to you as V.35 so all you need is a serial port. Verify this.

> -Original Message-
> From: Matt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: E1 interface [7:12864]
> 
> 
> Hey, I know that this sounds dumb, but I've never had to 
> install, configure,
> or support an E1 interface.  So today I went to put together 
> a sales order
> for someone installing a router in Europe, and the only E1 
> interfaces I can
> find are PRI and multiflex (?) for doing voice and data.  
> Obviously I need
> to get more info from the provider over there, but I'm 
> wondering what I'm
> missing.  With a T1 interface, you just have to decide 
> whether or not it
> gets an internal CSU/DSU or not and then order a WIC-T1 or a 
> WIC-1DSU-T1.
> Help!
> Report misconduct 
> and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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E1 interface [7:12864]

2001-07-18 Thread Matt

Hey, I know that this sounds dumb, but I've never had to install, configure,
or support an E1 interface.  So today I went to put together a sales order
for someone installing a router in Europe, and the only E1 interfaces I can
find are PRI and multiflex (?) for doing voice and data.  Obviously I need
to get more info from the provider over there, but I'm wondering what I'm
missing.  With a T1 interface, you just have to decide whether or not it
gets an internal CSU/DSU or not and then order a WIC-T1 or a WIC-1DSU-T1.
Help!




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