RE: FORTEZZA for Cisco router? [7:73114]
> >By the way, FORTEZZA is used for more that "sensitive but unclassified" >>traffic. That's just one application. What you're probably looking for >is >>a product that falls in the "NSA Type 2" category. We can discuss more >>offline if you want to... > >Out of curiosity, what is currently used for classified traffic? > A whole range of devices, usually a KG-something. There really is no single solution, given there are a very wide range of requirements. On the one hand, you might have a device that an artillery observer uses to send small messages with target coordinates, which become irrelevant in 5 minutes or whatever it takes to blow the target away. High-resolution imagery streams, however, need multimegabit (or better) throughput. Spy reports are small, but need to be unbreakable or at least secure for decades -- go to the NSA historical page, read about VENONA, and find out why. Apropos of Cisco, you might see an occasional reference to BLACKER mode. That's a now obsolete crypto device that was going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, handling traffic at all security levels. Unfortunately, it did so much processing that it only had 64 Kbps throughput, when the single-level devices of the time could do T1 or better -- and more cheaply. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=73201&t=73114 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FORTEZZA for Cisco router? [7:73114]
> >By the way, FORTEZZA is used for more that "sensitive but unclassified" >>traffic. That's just one application. What you're probably looking for >is >>a product that falls in the "NSA Type 2" category. We can discuss more >>offline if you want to... > >Out of curiosity, what is currently used for classified traffic? > A whole range of devices, usually a KG-something. There really is no single solution, given there are a very wide range of requirements. On the one hand, you might have a device that an artillery observer uses to send small messages with target coordinates, which become irrelevant in 5 minutes or whatever it takes to blow the target away. High-resolution imagery streams, however, need multimegabit (or better) throughput. Spy reports are small, but need to be unbreakable or at least secure for decades -- go to the NSA historical page, read about VENONA, and find out why. Apropos of Cisco, you might see an occasional reference to BLACKER mode. That's a now obsolete crypto device that was going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread, handling traffic at all security levels. Unfortunately, it did so much processing that it only had 64 Kbps throughput, when the single-level devices of the time could do T1 or better -- and more cheaply. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=73188&t=73114 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FORTEZZA for Cisco router? [7:73114]
>By the way, FORTEZZA is used for more that "sensitive but unclassified" >traffic. That's just one application. What you're probably looking for is >a product that falls in the "NSA Type 2" category. We can discuss more >offline if you want to... Out of curiosity, what is currently used for classified traffic? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=73183&t=73114 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FORTEZZA for Cisco router? [7:73114]
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > > Does anyone know if there's a FORTEZZA encryption product > available, > presumably third-party, for Cisco routers? It's a NSA-approved > chipset, usually on PC card, for government "sensitive but > unclassified" traffic. CCO search doesn't give any hits. > > Can you be a bit more specific? I'm aware of FORTEZZA cards that are used to encrypt data to/from a PC's async interface. But if used on a router's async interface, the header would be garbled. That would probably be OK on a p-t-p connection, but obviously not on the Internet. Or are you talking about password encryption, etc? There are FORTEZZA cards in PC Card format (check out www.mykotronx.com). But I don't think IOS supports anything like that. By the way, FORTEZZA is used for more that "sensitive but unclassified" traffic. That's just one application. What you're probably looking for is a product that falls in the "NSA Type 2" category. We can discuss more offline if you want to... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=73178&t=73114 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FORTEZZA for Cisco router? [7:73114]
Egad I hope the fortezza has gotten easier to use. When I was in the Army I was trained on that card. I hated it. That's been several years but I shuddered when I read the name. I thought the military had rerouted and gone with a software based client solution to cover encryption anyway. David Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=73125&t=73114 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FORTEZZA for Cisco router? [7:73114]
Howard C. Berkowitz 7/28/03 11:37:44 AM >>> >Does anyone know if there's a FORTEZZA encryption product available, >presumably third-party, for Cisco routers? It's a NSA-approved >chipset, usually on PC card, for government "sensitive but >unclassified" traffic. CCO search doesn't give any hits. My first thought was a company called SafeNet, www.safenet-inc.com, but it appears that they don't have anything that does Fortezza. I then ran across this product: http://niap.nist.gov/cc-scheme/TTAP-CC-0001.html Is that the sort of thing you're looking for? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=73118&t=73114 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FORTEZZA for Cisco router? [7:73114]
Does anyone know if there's a FORTEZZA encryption product available, presumably third-party, for Cisco routers? It's a NSA-approved chipset, usually on PC card, for government "sensitive but unclassified" traffic. CCO search doesn't give any hits. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=73114&t=73114 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
