RE: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

2001-04-13 Thread Chuck Larrieu

If you have another known good cable, and the config works, then the cable
is a reasonable suspect. On the other hand, you do need to check things like
your frame routes, and other configurations on all devices.

clues might be found with debug frame packet, debug frame event, and debug
frame lmi

Chuck

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Sent:   Friday, April 13, 2001 8:14 PM
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Subject:RE: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

So What probably causes this problem? Can the crossover cable is one cause?
This crossover cable is brandnew and I never used it before so... I am not
sure if there's a defect on this cable...



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From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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When pvc's are reported "inactive" it means that you do not have end to end
connectivity.

Chuck

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Subject:    Re: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

Thanks All for all the support!  I went over all the setting: clockrate on
the DCE interface, cable, keepalive, lmi-type, frame-relay map... and
everything seems to be OK.  However, I still got the "INACTIVE" status for
the PVC.  Just the make sure you are clear with my senario, here is the
topology:


(DTE)RouterA(DTE)DCE-RouterB-DTE-DCE-RouterC-DCEDTE-
RouterE-DTE

- RouterB is the Frame-Relay switch with clockrate on DCE interface. DLCI #
and bandwitdh is assigned on its DTE interface.
- Router C is also a Frame-Relay switch that map DTEs of RouterB and routerE
(which I had it worked).
- I am trying to map DTE of routerA to DTE of routerB.

You might be questioning why I am setting up it this way...  It's because
each of my routers only has 2 serial ports, and that I have a limit number
of crossover cables with different types... Again, Thanks All!




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> when setting both of its serial as DCE interfaces.  However, I failed to
> have one serial acts as a DCE and one acts as a DTE.  Is it possible to
> specify a switch as a "frame-relay" switch and have one of its serial
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RE: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

2001-04-13 Thread Thuan D. Ngo

So What probably causes this problem? Can the crossover cable is one cause?
This crossover cable is brandnew and I never used it before so... I am not
sure if there's a defect on this cable...



-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 10:45 PM
To: Thomas; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Frame Relay switching [7:435]


When pvc's are reported "inactive" it means that you do not have end to end
connectivity.

Chuck

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Thomas
Sent:   Friday, April 13, 2001 7:56 PM
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Subject:    Re: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

Thanks All for all the support!  I went over all the setting: clockrate on
the DCE interface, cable, keepalive, lmi-type, frame-relay map... and
everything seems to be OK.  However, I still got the "INACTIVE" status for
the PVC.  Just the make sure you are clear with my senario, here is the
topology:


(DTE)RouterA(DTE)DCE-RouterB-DTE-DCE-RouterC-DCEDTE-
RouterE-DTE

- RouterB is the Frame-Relay switch with clockrate on DCE interface. DLCI #
and bandwitdh is assigned on its DTE interface.
- Router C is also a Frame-Relay switch that map DTEs of RouterB and routerE
(which I had it worked).
- I am trying to map DTE of routerA to DTE of routerB.

You might be questioning why I am setting up it this way...  It's because
each of my routers only has 2 serial ports, and that I have a limit number
of crossover cables with different types... Again, Thanks All!




""Thomas""  wrote in message
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> Hi All - I am setting up my 2501 router as a frame-relay switch.  I
succeed
> when setting both of its serial as DCE interfaces.  However, I failed to
> have one serial acts as a DCE and one acts as a DTE.  Is it possible to
> specify a switch as a "frame-relay" switch and have one of its serial
acting
> as a DTE interface (and assign IP address...) ???  Thanks All
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RE: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

2001-04-13 Thread Chuck Larrieu

When pvc's are reported "inactive" it means that you do not have end to end
connectivity.

Chuck

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Thomas
Sent:   Friday, April 13, 2001 7:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:    Re: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

Thanks All for all the support!  I went over all the setting: clockrate on
the DCE interface, cable, keepalive, lmi-type, frame-relay map... and
everything seems to be OK.  However, I still got the "INACTIVE" status for
the PVC.  Just the make sure you are clear with my senario, here is the
topology:


(DTE)RouterA(DTE)DCE-RouterB-DTE-DCE-RouterC-DCEDTE-
RouterE-DTE

- RouterB is the Frame-Relay switch with clockrate on DCE interface. DLCI #
and bandwitdh is assigned on its DTE interface.
- Router C is also a Frame-Relay switch that map DTEs of RouterB and routerE
(which I had it worked).
- I am trying to map DTE of routerA to DTE of routerB.

You might be questioning why I am setting up it this way...  It's because
each of my routers only has 2 serial ports, and that I have a limit number
of crossover cables with different types... Again, Thanks All!




""Thomas""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi All - I am setting up my 2501 router as a frame-relay switch.  I
succeed
> when setting both of its serial as DCE interfaces.  However, I failed to
> have one serial acts as a DCE and one acts as a DTE.  Is it possible to
> specify a switch as a "frame-relay" switch and have one of its serial
acting
> as a DTE interface (and assign IP address...) ???  Thanks All
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Re: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

2001-04-13 Thread Thomas

Thanks All for all the support!  I went over all the setting: clockrate on
the DCE interface, cable, keepalive, lmi-type, frame-relay map... and
everything seems to be OK.  However, I still got the "INACTIVE" status for
the PVC.  Just the make sure you are clear with my senario, here is the
topology:


(DTE)RouterA(DTE)DCE-RouterB-DTE-DCE-RouterC-DCEDTE-
RouterE-DTE

- RouterB is the Frame-Relay switch with clockrate on DCE interface. DLCI #
and bandwitdh is assigned on its DTE interface.
- Router C is also a Frame-Relay switch that map DTEs of RouterB and routerE
(which I had it worked).
- I am trying to map DTE of routerA to DTE of routerB.

You might be questioning why I am setting up it this way...  It's because
each of my routers only has 2 serial ports, and that I have a limit number
of crossover cables with different types... Again, Thanks All!




""Thomas""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi All - I am setting up my 2501 router as a frame-relay switch.  I
succeed
> when setting both of its serial as DCE interfaces.  However, I failed to
> have one serial acts as a DCE and one acts as a DTE.  Is it possible to
> specify a switch as a "frame-relay" switch and have one of its serial
acting
> as a DTE interface (and assign IP address...) ???  Thanks All
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RE: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

2001-04-13 Thread Maness, Drew

I've also noticed that if you don't use the intf-dce command on the switch,
regardless of whether the switch interface is or is not dce, you will not
get lmi to work properly.

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Subject: RE: Frame Relay switching [7:435]


Once again, to clarify:

The interface with the DCE end of the cable is the interface that requires
the clock rate configured.

This may be different than the interface that has the frame-relay intf-type
DCE

Frame relay intf-type dce does NOT require clock rate and does NOT require
the DCE end of the cable. The difference is the physical versus the logical
DCE.

If you were to configure two Cisco routers back to back NNI, one of those
routers would still require the clock rate set.

A minor point, but one most misunderstood.

Chuck

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Thomas,
On fr switch, dce side needs clock rate defined.  If your interface is dte,
simply assign clock rate on the dce side of other router (but of couse you
must swap the dce-dte cable).  No matter what you use, you may just use
frame intf-type dce on the fr switch.  This gives you the ability to define
"frame route" which is what you want on the fr switch, right ?

YY

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Subject: Frame Relay switching [7:435]


Hi All - I am setting up my 2501 router as a frame-relay switch.  I succeed
when setting both of its serial as DCE interfaces.  However, I failed to
have one serial acts as a DCE and one acts as a DTE.  Is it possible to
specify a switch as a "frame-relay" switch and have one of its serial acting
as a DTE interface (and assign IP address...) ???  Thanks All
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RE: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

2001-04-13 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Once again, to clarify:

The interface with the DCE end of the cable is the interface that requires
the clock rate configured.

This may be different than the interface that has the frame-relay intf-type
DCE

Frame relay intf-type dce does NOT require clock rate and does NOT require
the DCE end of the cable. The difference is the physical versus the logical
DCE.

If you were to configure two Cisco routers back to back NNI, one of those
routers would still require the clock rate set.

A minor point, but one most misunderstood.

Chuck

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Thomas,
On fr switch, dce side needs clock rate defined.  If your interface is dte,
simply assign clock rate on the dce side of other router (but of couse you
must swap the dce-dte cable).  No matter what you use, you may just use
frame intf-type dce on the fr switch.  This gives you the ability to define
"frame route" which is what you want on the fr switch, right ?

YY

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Subject: Frame Relay switching [7:435]


Hi All - I am setting up my 2501 router as a frame-relay switch.  I succeed
when setting both of its serial as DCE interfaces.  However, I failed to
have one serial acts as a DCE and one acts as a DTE.  Is it possible to
specify a switch as a "frame-relay" switch and have one of its serial acting
as a DTE interface (and assign IP address...) ???  Thanks All
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RE: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

2001-04-12 Thread YY

Thomas,
On fr switch, dce side needs clock rate defined.  If your interface is dte,
simply assign clock rate on the dce side of other router (but of couse you
must swap the dce-dte cable).  No matter what you use, you may just use
frame intf-type dce on the fr switch.  This gives you the ability to define
"frame route" which is what you want on the fr switch, right ?

YY

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Subject: Frame Relay switching [7:435]


Hi All - I am setting up my 2501 router as a frame-relay switch.  I succeed
when setting both of its serial as DCE interfaces.  However, I failed to
have one serial acts as a DCE and one acts as a DTE.  Is it possible to
specify a switch as a "frame-relay" switch and have one of its serial acting
as a DTE interface (and assign IP address...) ???  Thanks All
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RE: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

2001-04-12 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I think you misunderstand the interface types with regards to a frame relay
switch.

There are three frame relay switch interface types - DCE, DTE, and NNI.

Check out
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/wan_c
/wcfrelay.htm
Down towards the end is a diagram you can check. And a bunch of config
examples.

A frame relay DTE device connects to a frame relay DCE device. NNI is
special signaling between two frame switches.

You can simulate a frame relay network using Cisco routers. Take care not to
confuse the frame relay interface type with the physical interface / cable
type. Even with NNI to NNI interface types, the router/frame switch with the
physical DCE cable end must have a clock rate configured.

HTH

Chuck

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Subject:Frame Relay switching [7:435]

Hi All - I am setting up my 2501 router as a frame-relay switch.  I succeed
when setting both of its serial as DCE interfaces.  However, I failed to
have one serial acts as a DCE and one acts as a DTE.  Is it possible to
specify a switch as a "frame-relay" switch and have one of its serial acting
as a DTE interface (and assign IP address...) ???  Thanks All
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Re: Frame Relay switching [7:435]

2001-04-12 Thread Ping

i think i understand what you are saying.
at the fram relay switch
type fram intf type dte

you can config it dce, dte and something else which does not come to mind
use ?

Thomas wrote:

  Hi All - I am setting up my 2501 router as a frame-relay switch.  I
  succeed
  when setting both of its serial as DCE interfaces.  However, I failed
  to
  have one serial acts as a DCE and one acts as a DTE.  Is it possible
  to
  specify a switch as a "frame-relay" switch and have one of its serial
  acting
  as a DTE interface (and assign IP address...) ???  Thanks All
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Frame Relay switching [7:435]

2001-04-12 Thread Thomas

Hi All - I am setting up my 2501 router as a frame-relay switch.  I succeed
when setting both of its serial as DCE interfaces.  However, I failed to
have one serial acts as a DCE and one acts as a DTE.  Is it possible to
specify a switch as a "frame-relay" switch and have one of its serial acting
as a DTE interface (and assign IP address...) ???  Thanks All




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