ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any input?

2000-12-07 Thread Raul F. Fernandez

Dear folks,

I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
type basic-net3.

Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
correctly configured

it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
commands are in use.

When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
the physical

layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
behavior of showing the=20

physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
This causes some

confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further =
but seems like the CCO

is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
configuration and other sources which

I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites. =
Any information

would be appreciated.

Sincerely,

Raul




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RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any input?

2000-12-07 Thread David Wolsefer

This is typical behavior for the basic-net3 switch. You won't see active
until the call is placed, then everything will be normal.

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Raul F. Fernandez
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Subject: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any
input?


Dear folks,

I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
type basic-net3.

Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
correctly configured

it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
commands are in use.

When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
the physical

layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
behavior of showing the=20

physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
This causes some

confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further =
but seems like the CCO

is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
configuration and other sources which

I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites. =
Any information

would be appreciated.

Sincerely,

Raul




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RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any input?

2000-12-08 Thread David Wolsefer

The routers in question were 7206s located in Paris. I saw more of this
exact behavior on some other routers in Europe, but can't remember which
ones. Here is the relevant portion of the config for the router in question.
I don't have a good explanation for this behavior, but when I asked, I was
told that it occurred because they were not using a true basic-net3 switch,
they were using some sort of emulation instead.

Regards,

David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858

isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
username SYDNEY password 7 0 
username STOCKHOLM password 7 1 
!
interface BRI3/6
 ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.0
 ip accounting output-packets
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip mroute-cache
 dialer idle-timeout 600
 dialer enable-timeout 10
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 90
 dialer map ip Y.Y.Y.Y name STOCKHOLM 001234567890
 dialer-group 2
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp chap hostname foo
 hold-queue 75 in
!
dialer-list 2 protocol ip permit

-Original Message-
From: JULIO CESAR GARCIA ALCANTAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:43 PM
To: David Wolsefer
Cc: Raul F. Fernandez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla
any input?


Can you send us configuration example, what model of cisco router are you
using
thanks
Julio Garcia

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, David Wolsefer wrote:

> This is typical behavior for the basic-net3 switch. You won't see active
> until the call is placed, then everything will be normal.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Raul F. Fernandez
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any
> input?
>
>
> Dear folks,
>
> I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
> type basic-net3.
>
> Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
> correctly configured
>
> it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
> commands are in use.
>
> When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
> the physical
>
> layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
> behavior of showing the=20
>
> physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
> This causes some
>
> confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further =
> but seems like the CCO
>
> is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
> configuration and other sources which
>
> I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites. =
> Any information
>
> would be appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Raul
>
>
>
>
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RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any input?

2000-12-10 Thread jenny . mcleod

Interesting.
When I set up a router using basic-net3, a colleague warned me that it
would not show active until a call was placed - he didn't know why but that
was what he had experienced.  When I set up the router, though, the
physical layer DID show active without a call.
If the behaviour depends on the exact switch used in the exchange, that
would explain why it differs sometimes.

JMcL

-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 11/12/2000
09:40 am ---


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Subject:  RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla
  any input?


The routers in question were 7206s located in Paris. I saw more of this
exact behavior on some other routers in Europe, but can't remember which
ones. Here is the relevant portion of the config for the router in
question.
I don't have a good explanation for this behavior, but when I asked, I was
told that it occurred because they were not using a true basic-net3 switch,
they were using some sort of emulation instead.

Regards,

David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858

isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
username SYDNEY password 7 0 
username STOCKHOLM password 7 1 
!
interface BRI3/6
 ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.0
 ip accounting output-packets
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip mroute-cache
 dialer idle-timeout 600
 dialer enable-timeout 10
 dialer wait-for-carrier-time 90
 dialer map ip Y.Y.Y.Y name STOCKHOLM 001234567890
 dialer-group 2
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp chap hostname foo
 hold-queue 75 in
!
dialer-list 2 protocol ip permit

-Original Message-
From: JULIO CESAR GARCIA ALCANTAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:43 PM
To: David Wolsefer
Cc: Raul F. Fernandez; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla
any input?


Can you send us configuration example, what model of cisco router are you
using
thanks
Julio Garcia

On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, David Wolsefer wrote:

> This is typical behavior for the basic-net3 switch. You won't see active
> until the call is placed, then everything will be normal.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Raul F. Fernandez
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 9:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ISDN Switch Type basic-net3 - Question- Chuck or Priscilla any
> input?
>
>
> Dear folks,
>
> I would like to do some research on the strange behavior of the switch =
> type basic-net3.
>
> Usually when a show ISDN status command is done and an ISDN BRI is =
> correctly configured
>
> it will show the physical layer as "ACTIVE" unless backup interface =
> commands are in use.
>
> When backup commands are in use the output of the show isdn status show =
> the physical
>
> layer as "DEACTIVATED". This switch type is used in Europe has the =
> behavior of showing the=20
>
> physical layer as "DEACTIVATED" and no backup commands are being used. =
> This causes some
>
> confusion where I work at. Anyway, I would like to research this further
=
> but seems like the CCO
>
> is only interested in how to enter this switch type in a router =
> configuration and other sources which
>
> I have looked are very sketchy on information on the switch capabilites.
=
> Any information
>
> would be appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Raul
>
>
>
>
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