Multilink T1's with ip cef

2001-02-20 Thread Frank Kim

Hi folks,
If you have three T1's coming from the same provider which go straight
into one single router and between you and the provider, you guys are
doing multigroup ppp with ip cef load balancing 'per packet'.  Ultimately,
do you have the same kind of inbound/outbound bandwidth in this scenario
vs. the a fractional T3, committing at 4.5mbps ?  Which one is better?

Thanks,

-Frank

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RE: Multilink T1's with ip cef

2001-02-20 Thread Christopher Kolp

is there a page where I can get more information on cef?

I will look it up on google as well but any help is much appreciated!

Thanks!!

Sincerely,

Chris Kolp


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 Subject: Re: Multilink T1's with ip cef
 
 
 On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Frank Kim wrote:
 
  Hi folks,
  If you have three T1's coming from the same provider which 
 go straight
  into one single router and between you and the provider, 
 you guys are
  doing multigroup ppp with ip cef load balancing 'per 
 packet'.  Ultimately,
  do you have the same kind of inbound/outbound bandwidth in 
 this scenario
  vs. the a fractional T3, committing at 4.5mbps ?  Which one 
 is better?
 
 
 their are pro's and cons.  You hit a price point with T1's where it is
 cheaper to go with frac t3's.  You lose physical diversity 
 however, as one
 cable cut and your dead with a single frac t3.  If you don't watch it
 though, chances are most of your T1's to the same provider 
 may be in the
 same actual binder anyways, not really giving you as much 
 protection as
 you may think
 
 In terms of packet forwarding and just raw thruput, i say its 
 not really
 an issue.  They are probably about the same.  CEF is not too 
 intensive,
 its quite efficient.  Only problem with CEF is it is buggy as 
 hell.  CEF
 is the evil we all have a love / hate relationship with.
 
 Also, typically, per-packet CEF is ran up on standard hdlc 
 serial links
 (parallel) to the same source/destination routers...its 
 not common to
 have CEF combined with PPP multigroup.  Most ISP's running 
 CEF are doing
 so over just HDLC links.
 
 Brian
 
 
Thanks,   -Frank
 
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RE: Multilink T1's with ip cef

2001-02-20 Thread Brian

On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Christopher Kolp wrote:

 is there a page where I can get more information on cef?

 I will look it up on google as well but any help is much appreciated!


cisco.com of course since its proprietary

 Thanks!!

 Sincerely,

 Chris Kolp


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Brian
  Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:01 PM
  To: Frank Kim
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Multilink T1's with ip cef
 
 
  On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Frank Kim wrote:
 
   Hi folks,
   If you have three T1's coming from the same provider which
  go straight
   into one single router and between you and the provider,
  you guys are
   doing multigroup ppp with ip cef load balancing 'per
  packet'.  Ultimately,
   do you have the same kind of inbound/outbound bandwidth in
  this scenario
   vs. the a fractional T3, committing at 4.5mbps ?  Which one
  is better?
 
 
  their are pro's and cons.  You hit a price point with T1's where it is
  cheaper to go with frac t3's.  You lose physical diversity
  however, as one
  cable cut and your dead with a single frac t3.  If you don't watch it
  though, chances are most of your T1's to the same provider
  may be in the
  same actual binder anyways, not really giving you as much
  protection as
  you may think
 
  In terms of packet forwarding and just raw thruput, i say its
  not really
  an issue.  They are probably about the same.  CEF is not too
  intensive,
  its quite efficient.  Only problem with CEF is it is buggy as
  hell.  CEF
  is the evil we all have a love / hate relationship with.
 
  Also, typically, per-packet CEF is ran up on standard hdlc
  serial links
  (parallel) to the same source/destination routers...its
  not common to
  have CEF combined with PPP multigroup.  Most ISP's running
  CEF are doing
  so over just HDLC links.
 
  Brian
 
 
 Thanks,   -Frank
  
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Re: Multilink T1's with ip cef

2001-02-20 Thread Brian

On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Frank Kim wrote:

 Hi folks,
 If you have three T1's coming from the same provider which go straight
 into one single router and between you and the provider, you guys are
 doing multigroup ppp with ip cef load balancing 'per packet'.  Ultimately,
 do you have the same kind of inbound/outbound bandwidth in this scenario
 vs. the a fractional T3, committing at 4.5mbps ?  Which one is better?


their are pro's and cons.  You hit a price point with T1's where it is
cheaper to go with frac t3's.  You lose physical diversity however, as one
cable cut and your dead with a single frac t3.  If you don't watch it
though, chances are most of your T1's to the same provider may be in the
same actual binder anyways, not really giving you as much protection as
you may think

In terms of packet forwarding and just raw thruput, i say its not really
an issue.  They are probably about the same.  CEF is not too intensive,
its quite efficient.  Only problem with CEF is it is buggy as hell.  CEF
is the evil we all have a love / hate relationship with.

Also, typically, per-packet CEF is ran up on standard hdlc serial links
(parallel) to the same source/destination routers...its not common to
have CEF combined with PPP multigroup.  Most ISP's running CEF are doing
so over just HDLC links.

Brian


   Thanks,   -Frank

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