Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-14 Thread J.D. Chaiken
I believe that all the VoIP images require 64MB.  Though VoFR, VoHDLC, and
VoATM are supported w/ 32MB


""HulaJoe""  wrote in message
news:200211130159.BAA28992@;groupstudy.com...
> Hello All,
>
> I just purchased a 3810 to practice some Voice labs. I was hoping someone
> could answer a quick question for me.
>
> The 3810 I'm getting has 32 MB of RAM - Is this enough to run the 3810 as
a
> VoIP GW ? Can someone give me some insight in regards to setting up the
3810
> to support VoIP ?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Joe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Peter Walker : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:40 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
>
>
> Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both)
> 
>
> Folks
>
> I have a question that hopefully can lead to me receiving some good
> advice.
>
> Back in June (Just before I was laid off) I took and passed the CCIE
> security written exam. Since then I have been unsuccessfully seeking
> employment.
>
> Due in part to the cost, I have chosen not to book the lab yet and
> probably wont until I am back in work. Which leads me (finally :-) to my
> question.
>
> Would it be worthwhile to study for and take the routing and switching
> qualification exam and/or perhaps even a communications and services
> exam too (maybe the voice beta when it is released).
>
> Does anyone have any experience of how much commonality there is between
> the exam materials?
>
> Also, following on from that, how about the labs. Assuming I find myself
> back in employment in the not too distant future and can manage to
> afford it, would it be worth practicing for two or more CCIE labs at the
> same time and then booking the labs back to back (or at least close
> together)?
>
> I have a reasonable home lab that includes 3x2500, 3x4500, a 2600, a
> 3600, 2xMC3810, a 7500, 2xPix501 and cat 2820, etherswitch 2200 and 3920
> (yeah,I purchased the last 2 a couple of months before the lab equipment
> changes were announced). So with the addition of a 3550 EMI (or 2 :- eek
> $$$) and some remote lab time I think I should be able to prepare for
> the lab exam(s) for any of the above.
>
> The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at
> once or is this just a really foolish idea.
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter Walker
> CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP.




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FW: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-12 Thread HulaJoe
Hello All,

I just purchased a 3810 to practice some Voice labs. I was hoping someone
could answer a quick question for me.

The 3810 I'm getting has 32 MB of RAM - Is this enough to run the 3810 as a
VoIP GW ? Can someone give me some insight in regards to setting up the 3810
to support VoIP ?

Thanks in advance!

Joe

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Peter Walker : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both)


Folks

I have a question that hopefully can lead to me receiving some good
advice.

Back in June (Just before I was laid off) I took and passed the CCIE
security written exam. Since then I have been unsuccessfully seeking
employment.

Due in part to the cost, I have chosen not to book the lab yet and
probably wont until I am back in work. Which leads me (finally :-) to my
question.

Would it be worthwhile to study for and take the routing and switching
qualification exam and/or perhaps even a communications and services
exam too (maybe the voice beta when it is released).

Does anyone have any experience of how much commonality there is between
the exam materials?

Also, following on from that, how about the labs. Assuming I find myself
back in employment in the not too distant future and can manage to
afford it, would it be worth practicing for two or more CCIE labs at the
same time and then booking the labs back to back (or at least close
together)?

I have a reasonable home lab that includes 3x2500, 3x4500, a 2600, a
3600, 2xMC3810, a 7500, 2xPix501 and cat 2820, etherswitch 2200 and 3920
(yeah,I purchased the last 2 a couple of months before the lab equipment
changes were announced). So with the addition of a 3550 EMI (or 2 :- eek
$$$) and some remote lab time I think I should be able to prepare for
the lab exam(s) for any of the above.

The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at
once or is this just a really foolish idea.

Thanks

Peter Walker
CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP.




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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-07 Thread YASSER ALY
All,

 The feedback I got from Cisco about this is as follows

"Although other Voice certification options are being discussed, the only
related exam currently in production is the IP Telephony, which will
concentrate on the Enterprise.The IP Telephony exam will begin beta in
November."

This is one of the various written option for CCIE C&S. Keep in mind that
lab remains the same regardless of which written you pass for C&S and
hopefully when you pass nothing points out which written you have manage
to pass.

HTH

 

>From: "Persio Pucci" >Peter, > >that's what I tought however, it is
not available yet, is it? > >Regarding its lab, for example, if I do the
Voice qualification exam, how >come the lab will be the same as the
others? Will I have to know how to >operate and handle all the other
technologies as Optic or Cable? > >Persio > >- Original Message -
>From: "Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCSE, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP" >
>To: "Persio Pucci" ; >Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 PM
>Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019] > >
> > Persio > > > > No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services).
There are a number > > of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE
(C&S) and one of those > > is voice. > > > > No matter which
qualification exam you take the lab will be the same. > > > > Peter
Walker > > CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc > > > > Persio Pucci
wrote: > > > > > > guys, > > > > > > about something that where mentioned
before... is it really going to be >a > > > CCIE Voice? > > > > >Message
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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-07 Thread
Persio Pucci wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> that's what I tought however, it is not available yet, is it?
> 


Scott from Cisco just wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> It's still being slated for the end of this month. -- Scott
> 
> At 07:12 PM 11/7/2002 +, you wrote:
> >Hey Scott
> >
> >Any word on when the voice exam will go into beta?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> > Peter




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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-07 Thread
Persio

The voice blueprint and test are not available yet. I heard from Cisco
that the exam is planned to go into beta this month though.

As for the lab, it will only test a common body of knowledge.  This is
all explained on the CCIE pages on Cisco.com

Peter

Persio Pucci wrote:
> 
> Peter,
> 
> that's what I tought however, it is not available yet, is it?
> 
> Regarding its lab, for example, if I do the Voice qualification exam, how
> come the lab will be the same as the others? Will I have to know how to
> operate and handle all the other technologies as Optic or Cable?
> 
> Persio
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCSE, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP"
> 
> To: "Persio Pucci" ; 
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 PM
> Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
> 
> > Persio
> >
> > No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services). There are a number
> > of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE (C&S) and one of those
> > is voice.
> >
> > No matter which qualification exam you take the lab will be the same.
> >
> > Peter Walker
> > CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc
> >
> > Persio Pucci wrote:
> > >
> > > guys,
> > >
> > > about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be
> a
> > > CCIE Voice?




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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-07 Thread Persio Pucci
Peter,

that's what I tought however, it is not available yet, is it?

Regarding its lab, for example, if I do the Voice qualification exam, how
come the lab will be the same as the others? Will I have to know how to
operate and handle all the other technologies as Optic or Cable?

Persio

- Original Message -
From: "Peter Walker : CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCSE, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP"

To: "Persio Pucci" ; 
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]


> Persio
>
> No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services). There are a number
> of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE (C&S) and one of those
> is voice.
>
> No matter which qualification exam you take the lab will be the same.
>
> Peter Walker
> CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc
>
> Persio Pucci wrote:
> >
> > guys,
> >
> > about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be
a
> > CCIE Voice?




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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-07 Thread
Persio

No, It will be a CCIE (Communications and Services). There are a number
of qualification exams to chose from for the CCIE (C&S) and one of those
is voice.

No matter which qualification exam you take the lab will be the same.

Peter Walker
CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP etc

Persio Pucci wrote:
> 
> guys,
> 
> about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be a
> CCIE Voice?




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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-07 Thread Persio Pucci
guys,

about something that where mentioned before... is it really going to be a
CCIE Voice?

Persio

- Original Message -
From: "Juan Blanco" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 9:36 AM
Subject: RE: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]


> Peter,
> Very well put, I think that you should try to go for the VOICE-Support
> certification, the material is very helpful for
> your preparation to the lab (eventually when you have a job or the money
to
> do it), the reason is because you will have to do some QOS and VOICE as
well
> in the lab but in addition to what I said before learning QOS is really
> great and very but very helpful. Yes not having a job really sucks but
> believe it or not there are many people out there with the same level of
> skills that you have without a job and still looking. By working on some
of
> these certification you are using your free
> time very wisely...
>
> Juan Blanco
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:nobody@;groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]
>
>
> Earlier today I wrote
>
> > I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification
> > exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for "CCIE
> > written". I posted my opinions on this about june/july.
> >
>
> I went ahead and did the search for you.
>
> http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html




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RE: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-07 Thread Juan Blanco
Peter,
Very well put, I think that you should try to go for the VOICE-Support
certification, the material is very helpful for
your preparation to the lab (eventually when you have a job or the money to
do it), the reason is because you will have to do some QOS and VOICE as well
in the lab but in addition to what I said before learning QOS is really
great and very but very helpful. Yes not having a job really sucks but
believe it or not there are many people out there with the same level of
skills that you have without a job and still looking. By working on some of
these certification you are using your free
time very wisely...

Juan Blanco

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]


Earlier today I wrote

> I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification
> exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for "CCIE
> written". I posted my opinions on this about june/july.
>

I went ahead and did the search for you.

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html




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RE: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-07 Thread Juan Blanco
Peter,
Very well put, I think that you should try to go for the VOICE-Support
certification, the material is very helpful for
your preparation to the lab (eventually when you have a job or the money to
do it), the reason is because you will have to do some QOS and VOICE as well
in the lab but in addition to what I said before learning QOS is really
great and very but very helpful. Yes not having a job really sucks but
believe it or not there are many people out there with the same level of
skills that you have without a job and still looking. By working on some of
these certification you are using your free
time very wisely...

Juan Blanco

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]


Earlier today I wrote

> I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification
> exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for "CCIE
> written". I posted my opinions on this about june/july.
>

I went ahead and did the search for you.

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html




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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-07 Thread
Earlier today I wrote 

> I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification
> exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for "CCIE
> written". I posted my opinions on this about june/july.
> 

I went ahead and did the search for you.

http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/cisco/200207/msg01049.html




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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-07 Thread
"B.J. Wilson" wrote:
> 
> > The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at
> > once or is this just a really foolish idea.

> passing the CCIE Written is
> *nothing*.  You don't have *a* CCIE certification yet, much less are in a
> position to go for a second.  Don't put "CCIE Written" or "CCIE candidate"
> on your resume, because neither of those are actual *certifications.* 

I am well aware of exactly what having passed the CCIE qualification
exam does and does not mean. Search the groupstudy archives for "CCIE
written". I posted my opinions on this about june/july.

I know I dont have a CCIE yet. That isnt the issue.  Right now I just
cant take the lab exam as I plain cant afford it and my lab is in
storage so I cant practice anyway. In fact right now my cisco skills are
getting rusty as I havent even had any cisco hands on since July.


> If you're looking for
> resume boosters, either bite the bullet and take the CCIE Lab, or maybe go
> for some of the CCIP certs instead.

Resume boosters arent the issue.  I already have CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, CSS1,
CIPTSS from cisco and am a CISSP and CCSE. I am trying to keep myself
sane by making what productive use I can of a very unwelcome excess of
free time right now (unemployment really sucks!!!) 

In the next few weeks I will probably study for the MPLS and EVODD exams
and may perhaps even try for the Packet Telephony exam and IP telephony
troubleshooting exam. 

I could also, as I originally stated try to pass an additional CCIE
qualification exam (R&S or C&S-Voice) or two. I sent the question so I
could hopefully receive advice as to whether or not this was a stupid
idea and also, to find out what people thought about having multiple lab
exams outstanding.  I.E. Once I find myself in a position where I can
afford to take the lab(s), should I treat them seperately and work
towards them one at a time, or try to work towards them all at the same
time (on the basis of a lot of common material in the different labs).
> 
> (Again, sorry about the acidic response...people putting "CCIE Written" on
> their resumes *really* bugs me, and it sounds like what you're doing.
> Hopefully I'm wrong. :-)

You are ;-)))

Peter Walker
CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc




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AW: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-06 Thread Stuart Laubstein
I actually did not get that impression from the original post. I think he
was just trying to decide if he should study for multiple labs. He did not
use CCIE written or anything like that in his sig. 

stuart

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> The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at
> once or is this just a really foolish idea.

I really, really, *really* don't want this to sound as caustic as it's going
to sound, but I gotta say it anyway: dude, passing the CCIE Written is
*nothing*.  You don't have *a* CCIE certification yet, much less are in a
position to go for a second.  Don't put "CCIE Written" or "CCIE candidate"
on your resume, because neither of those are actual *certifications.*  The
CCIE Written is a first step, nothing more (and a small first step at that,
in relation to the mammoth task of passing the Lab).  If you're looking for
resume boosters, either bite the bullet and take the CCIE Lab, or maybe go
for some of the CCIP certs instead.

(Again, sorry about the acidic response...people putting "CCIE Written" on
their resumes *really* bugs me, and it sounds like what you're doing.
Hopefully I'm wrong. :-)

$0.02,

BJ




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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-06 Thread B.J. Wilson
> The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at
> once or is this just a really foolish idea.

I really, really, *really* don't want this to sound as caustic as it's going
to sound, but I gotta say it anyway: dude, passing the CCIE Written is
*nothing*.  You don't have *a* CCIE certification yet, much less are in a
position to go for a second.  Don't put "CCIE Written" or "CCIE candidate"
on your resume, because neither of those are actual *certifications.*  The
CCIE Written is a first step, nothing more (and a small first step at that,
in relation to the mammoth task of passing the Lab).  If you're looking for
resume boosters, either bite the bullet and take the CCIE Lab, or maybe go
for some of the CCIP certs instead.

(Again, sorry about the acidic response...people putting "CCIE Written" on
their resumes *really* bugs me, and it sounds like what you're doing.
Hopefully I'm wrong. :-)

$0.02,

BJ




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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-06 Thread
Hmm what a fascinating filter!!! Concatenate the word "router" and word
"ccie" with the "cc" missing if you really need to figure out where else
I posted this question :-)


> Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both)
> 

PS. Does anyone know why this list totally mangles my rfc compliant
email address whenever I send an message.




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Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-06 Thread
Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both)


Folks

I have a question that hopefully can lead to me receiving some good
advice.

Back in June (Just before I was laid off) I took and passed the CCIE
security written exam. Since then I have been unsuccessfully seeking
employment.

Due in part to the cost, I have chosen not to book the lab yet and
probably wont until I am back in work. Which leads me (finally :-) to my
question.

Would it be worthwhile to study for and take the routing and switching
qualification exam and/or perhaps even a communications and services
exam too (maybe the voice beta when it is released).

Does anyone have any experience of how much commonality there is between
the exam materials?

Also, following on from that, how about the labs. Assuming I find myself
back in employment in the not too distant future and can manage to
afford it, would it be worth practicing for two or more CCIE labs at the
same time and then booking the labs back to back (or at least close
together)?

I have a reasonable home lab that includes 3x2500, 3x4500, a 2600, a
3600, 2xMC3810, a 7500, 2xPix501 and cat 2820, etherswitch 2200 and 3920
(yeah,I purchased the last 2 a couple of months before the lab equipment
changes were announced). So with the addition of a 3550 EMI (or 2 :- eek
$$$) and some remote lab time I think I should be able to prepare for
the lab exam(s) for any of the above. 

The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at
once or is this just a really foolish idea.

Thanks

Peter Walker
CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP.




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