Re: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-13 Thread Peter van Oene
 There's more about the Myers Briggs personality sorter here:
 
 http://keirsey.com/
 
 Anyone else want to share what they are, or have we wasted enough
bandwidth
 on this already? :-)
 
 Priscilla
 

First, you're correct about the mix of learning styles in my class.
This is just a three-hour overview of networking and TCP/IP, and it is a
little difficult to convey the necessary information without a portion
of the class getting lost or falling asleep.  :-)  I've heard good
things about the class yesterday that I thought went so poorly so
perhaps I was overreacting.

As for Myers Briggs, I'm a fellow INTJ.  However, I really dislike
their testing process.  It seems to consist of Given a certain
situation would you do A or would you do B with no room for a 'maybe'
answer.  At least a third of the time I wish there were a sometimes A
and sometimes B answer.  Perhaps that means I'm an INTJ with definite
ISTJ leanings?

John

ENTP here :)




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Re: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-13 Thread John Neiberger
 As for Myers Briggs, I'm a fellow INTJ.  However, I really dislike
 their testing process.  It seems to consist of Given a certain
 situation would you do A or would you do B with no room for a
'maybe'
 answer.  At least a third of the time I wish there were a sometimes
A
 and sometimes B answer.  Perhaps that means I'm an INTJ with
definite
 ISTJ leanings?


no, it means you're management material, if not husband material. ;-


In that case, the modified Myers-Briggs Test for Potential Husbands
might look like this:

Q:  Given (some particular situation) would you do A or would you do
B?

Correct Answer:   Whatever my wife expects me to do.  :-)




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Re: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
   As for Myers Briggs, I'm a fellow INTJ.  However, I really dislike
  their testing process.  It seems to consist of Given a certain
  situation would you do A or would you do B with no room for a
'maybe'
  answer.  At least a third of the time I wish there were a sometimes
A
  and sometimes B answer.  Perhaps that means I'm an INTJ with
definite
  ISTJ leanings?


no, it means you're management material, if not husband material. ;-


In that case, the modified Myers-Briggs Test for Potential Husbands
might look like this:

Q:  Given (some particular situation) would you do A or would you do
B?

Correct Answer:   Whatever my wife expects me to do.  :-)

Perhaps a subcommittee of the List Goddesses and Demigoddesses, who 
also are married, can come up with an appropriate questionnaire.




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Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-12 Thread John Neiberger
John has a difficult task because he has learners of all levels, from
different walks of life. I bet he has a huge mix of learning styles.

Now, you might think that networking attracts hands-on learners, so if
he
were teaching all real networking people, he would have an esier
time. I
have actually studied this, and that's not so. There's definitely a
mix of
types who are attracted to networking, both analytical/theoretical
types and
kinesthetic learners.

A few years ago I participated in a study of personality types of
networking
people. We used the Myers Briggs personality test. I came out as INTJ
(Introvert, iNtuitive, Thinking, Judgeing.) A lot of other people did
too.
We have a tendency to do way to much theory first! ;-)

The other side of Intuitive is Sensory. A lot of people in the
networking
field have S in their Myers Briggs personality type. These folks learn
with
their senses, especially their hands. They like lots of hands-on.

Anyway, bottom line, you need to run your class in a balanced manner
to
accomodate all these types as much as possible.

There's more about the Myers Briggs personality sorter here:

http://keirsey.com/ 

Anyone else want to share what they are, or have we wasted enough
bandwidth
on this already? :-)

Priscilla


First, you're correct about the mix of learning styles in my class. 
This is just a three-hour overview of networking and TCP/IP, and it is a
little difficult to convey the necessary information without a portion
of the class getting lost or falling asleep.  :-)  I've heard good
things about the class yesterday that I thought went so poorly so
perhaps I was overreacting.

As for Myers Briggs, I'm a fellow INTJ.  However, I really dislike
their testing process.  It seems to consist of Given a certain
situation would you do A or would you do B with no room for a 'maybe'
answer.  At least a third of the time I wish there were a sometimes A
and sometimes B answer.  Perhaps that means I'm an INTJ with definite
ISTJ leanings?

John




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RE: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
John Neiberger wrote:
 
 As for Myers Briggs, I'm a fellow INTJ. 

Cool! :-)

 However, I really
 dislike
 their testing process.  It seems to consist of Given a certain
 situation would you do A or would you do B with no room for a
 'maybe'
 answer.  At least a third of the time I wish there were a
 sometimes A
 and sometimes B answer.  Perhaps that means I'm an INTJ with
 definite
 ISTJ leanings?

Yeah, it's kind of silly. And the entire idea of classifying people into 16
slots is questionable too, but it has its uses.

Also, I wanted to mention to people that if you go through the pain of
answering the 70 questions on that Keirsey site that I mentioned before,
when they score you, they don't give you complete information. They just
clasify you into one of 4 types. You have to pay to get your full results
and your exact type! The creeps. There are probably free tests on the Web
too somewhere.

Priscilla


 
 John
 
 




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Re: Myers Briggs Re: OT: New Instructor Experiences [7:62826]

2003-02-12 Thread The Long and Winding Road
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 John has a difficult task because he has learners of all levels, from
 different walks of life. I bet he has a huge mix of learning styles.
 
 Now, you might think that networking attracts hands-on learners, so if
 he
 were teaching all real networking people, he would have an esier
 time. I
 have actually studied this, and that's not so. There's definitely a
 mix of
 types who are attracted to networking, both analytical/theoretical
 types and
 kinesthetic learners.
 
 A few years ago I participated in a study of personality types of
 networking
 people. We used the Myers Briggs personality test. I came out as INTJ
 (Introvert, iNtuitive, Thinking, Judgeing.) A lot of other people did
 too.
 We have a tendency to do way to much theory first! ;-)
 
 The other side of Intuitive is Sensory. A lot of people in the
 networking
 field have S in their Myers Briggs personality type. These folks learn
 with
 their senses, especially their hands. They like lots of hands-on.
 
 Anyway, bottom line, you need to run your class in a balanced manner
 to
 accomodate all these types as much as possible.
 
 There's more about the Myers Briggs personality sorter here:
 
 http://keirsey.com/
 
 Anyone else want to share what they are, or have we wasted enough
 bandwidth
 on this already? :-)
 
 Priscilla
 

 First, you're correct about the mix of learning styles in my class.
 This is just a three-hour overview of networking and TCP/IP, and it is a
 little difficult to convey the necessary information without a portion
 of the class getting lost or falling asleep.  :-)  I've heard good
 things about the class yesterday that I thought went so poorly so
 perhaps I was overreacting.

 As for Myers Briggs, I'm a fellow INTJ.  However, I really dislike
 their testing process.  It seems to consist of Given a certain
 situation would you do A or would you do B with no room for a 'maybe'
 answer.  At least a third of the time I wish there were a sometimes A
 and sometimes B answer.  Perhaps that means I'm an INTJ with definite
 ISTJ leanings?


no, it means you're management material, if not husband material. ;-





 John




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