RE: NAT concepts [7:37815]

2002-03-11 Thread saleem bilal

Dear Paul:

according to my perception:when we have a pool of addresses hired from
certain operator/internic we configure it to be used statically or through
NAT.we may not need to use all IP addresses for nAT lonely but some of them
can be used for static trans.thats why we describe the start IP abbresses
and end ip Address.NAT function should know the subnet mask coz when a
packet from private addresse comes in it is translated thru NAT with
subnetmask attached .Subnetmask in this case will help the routing of the
packet when it comes back to the oronating system through different
routers.Plus in all IP address scenarios we need to mention IP adress with
mask as router do the AND operation to extract original IP address.It would
not have been possible for any router in the path to extract orinal network
without having subnetmask

i hope u understand whay i m saying



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Re: NAT concepts [7:37815]

2002-03-11 Thread Marc Thach Xuan Ky

As far as I can tell this is another one of those Cisco quirks.  Unless
Cisco plan for the future a mechanism whereby the route to the NAT pool
is dynamically advertised, then the subnet mask has no *real* function. 
IMO while routes to the pool are statically defined and then redist, it
remains a mere annoyance.
rgds
Marc

saleem bilal wrote:
 
 Dear Paul:
 
 according to my perception:when we have a pool of addresses hired from
 certain operator/internic we configure it to be used statically or through
 NAT.we may not need to use all IP addresses for nAT lonely but some of them
 can be used for static trans.thats why we describe the start IP abbresses
 and end ip Address.NAT function should know the subnet mask coz when a
 packet from private addresse comes in it is translated thru NAT with
 subnetmask attached .Subnetmask in this case will help the routing of the
 packet when it comes back to the oronating system through different
 routers.Plus in all IP address scenarios we need to mention IP adress with
 mask as router do the AND operation to extract original IP address.It would
 not have been possible for any router in the path to extract orinal network
 without having subnetmask
 
 i hope u understand whay i m saying




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Re: NAT concepts [7:37815]

2002-03-11 Thread Paul Borghese

Yea it's a sanity check alright.  If you are not alreay insane, NAT will do
it.  Now to figure out why every time I try to use NAT on the outside in
version 12.1.13 it causes the router to reboot 

Thanks!

Paul
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From: Lupi, Guy 
To: 'Paul Borghese' ; 
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: NAT concepts [7:37815]


 Found this on CCO, I assume the prefix would be the same concept, a sanity
 check.  Link is at the bottom, HTH.

 Q. Why do I need to specify a subnet mask when configuring a NAT address
 pool?

 A. The subnet mask is used to sanity-check the addresses allocated from
the
 pool (so we don't allocate the subnet broadcast address, for example). The
 subnet mask must match the size of the subnet into which you are
 translating.


http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/ioft/iofwft/prodlit/iosnt_qp.htm

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 ~Subject: NAT concepts [7:37815]
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 ~Hi,
 ~
 ~I am trying to conceptually understand the NAT command:
 ~
 ~ip nat pool name start-ip end-ip {netmask netmask | prefix-length
 ~prefix-length}[type rotary]
 ~
 ~Why do you need to specify the netmask or prefix-length of the
 ~network?  You
 ~are already specifying the IP range.
 ~
 ~The NAT function should not need to know the netmask of the
 ~network.  The
 ~address range does not appear in the forwarding table so it
 ~does not seem to
 ~be used for routing.
 ~
 ~Paul Borghese
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NAT concepts [7:37815]

2002-03-10 Thread Paul Borghese

Hi,

I am trying to conceptually understand the NAT command:

ip nat pool name start-ip end-ip {netmask netmask | prefix-length
prefix-length}[type rotary]

Why do you need to specify the netmask or prefix-length of the network?  You
are already specifying the IP range.

The NAT function should not need to know the netmask of the network.  The
address range does not appear in the forwarding table so it does not seem to
be used for routing.

Paul Borghese




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RE: NAT concepts [7:37815]

2002-03-10 Thread Lupi, Guy

Found this on CCO, I assume the prefix would be the same concept, a sanity
check.  Link is at the bottom, HTH.

Q. Why do I need to specify a subnet mask when configuring a NAT address
pool?

A. The subnet mask is used to sanity-check the addresses allocated from the
pool (so we don't allocate the subnet broadcast address, for example). The
subnet mask must match the size of the subnet into which you are
translating. 

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/ioft/iofwft/prodlit/iosnt_qp.htm

~-Original Message-
~From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
~Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 5:49 PM
~To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~Subject: NAT concepts [7:37815]
~
~
~Hi,
~
~I am trying to conceptually understand the NAT command:
~
~ip nat pool name start-ip end-ip {netmask netmask | prefix-length
~prefix-length}[type rotary]
~
~Why do you need to specify the netmask or prefix-length of the 
~network?  You
~are already specifying the IP range.
~
~The NAT function should not need to know the netmask of the 
~network.  The
~address range does not appear in the forwarding table so it 
~does not seem to
~be used for routing.
~
~Paul Borghese
~
~
~
~
~Report misconduct 
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