RE: OSPF virtual link Question [7:3154]

2001-05-04 Thread Hire, Ejay

A virtual link allows an ABR to Hop accross a transit area to reach area 0.
Generally speaking, they are to be avoided.  Virtual links are more
acceptable in a migration situation, or if Area 0 has been segmented (I.e.
as a temp fix).

The little book of common sense says if it isn't broke then there is no
reason to fix it, unless you are a consultant and the customer is willing to
pay for it.

Ejay Hire


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Hi;

The following scenario


[RouteA  area0][area0 RouterB area1]<--[area1
RouterC area4]
|
|
|
|
|__Virtual link___|

Does this topology is valid in OSPF?

I belive that the configuration has topology error, but the owener
said it was
working fine without authenication.

For I am not familiar with Virtual link, ay comment are welcome?

Best Rgds;
Vincent Chong
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Re: OSPF virtual link Question [7:3154]

2001-05-04 Thread Vincent Chong

Hi;

Thank you.

Vincent Chong




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Re: OSPF virtual link Question [7:3154]

2001-05-04 Thread Circusnuts

Vincent- this is a textbook scenario for virtual links to Area 0.  You must
realize that you will be building a 1 way LSA tunnel (configured on both
sides). How you look @ this, is that Router C is broke.  It can't inform
Area 4 because it's not an ABR.  You need to make the connection "from &
through" Area 1 to Area 0's, pointed @ the OSPF router ID of Router B (vise
versa with the other side's config).  Keep in mind that you are traversing
Area 1 & Area 4 does not need configuring.  The commands are pretty simple &
again must be carried out on both sides (Routers B & C).  When you have
built the Virtual Link, Router C will have "theoretically" Area 0 under the
hood.  This is what allows Area 4 to work, it will be touching Area 0 now.
You will notice when you are done, Router C now looks @ Area 0 as "O" & not
"IA."  As far as your authentication question...  this has nothing to do
with your problem.  Authentication locks down Area by Area, so that routes/
LSA's are only permitted to Athenticat-able OSPF routers or routers in other
Areas that obtain updates outside the Authenticated Area.  In short,
Authentication stops someone from plugging in a router within your
Authenticated Area & picking up LSA info.

All the best !!!
Phil

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From: Vincent Chong 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 3:53 AM
Subject: OSPF virtual link Question [7:3154]


> Hi;
>
> The following scenario
>
>
> [RouteA  area0][area0 RouterB area1] RouterC area4]
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |__Virtual link___|
>
> Does this topology is valid in OSPF?
>
> I belive that the configuration has topology error, but the owener
> said it was
> working fine without authenication.
>
> For I am not familiar with Virtual link, ay comment are welcome?
>
> Best Rgds;
> Vincent Chong
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Re: OSPF virtual link Question [7:3154]

2001-05-04 Thread Charles Lehmann

I don't know what you mean by OSPF area rule, nor by the virtual link rule,
but:
In order to route from one of  "not-backbone OSPF area" to another
"not-backbone OSPF area", you need to cross the backbone area (area 0). For
this reason, if one has two chained areas that do not "share" the backbone
area, one has to use virtual links. Virtual links have following
requirements:
It must be established between two routers that share the same area (in this
case, router B and router C).
One of these two routers must be connected directly to the backbone (in this
case, router B).

However, if, in your network, you only have these areas, it would be worth
to make area 1 as the backbone (area 0).
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""Vincent Chong""  a icrit dans le message news:
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> Hi;
>
> Due to the mail system incompatiable, the message was truncated,
> I will provide more information to let you guys have more information.
>
> Area 0  is formed by Router A and Router B
>
> Area 1 is formed by Router B and Router C
>
> Area 4 is formed by Router C only.
>
> Router C set up a virtual link with Router A.
>
> The pesron who set up the topology said that it was a valid topoloy
without
> authenication
>
> But I am not agree, because the topology violate the OSPF area rule,
virtual
> link rule, this toplogy
> will  not function as expected no matter authenication or not.
>
> For I am not a OSPF expert, I would like to hear any advice, suggestion,
> discussion.
>
> Any comment will be welcome.
>
> TIA
> Vincent Chong
>
> ""Vincent Chong""   Hi;
> >
> > The following scenario
> >
> >
> > [RouteA  area0][area0 RouterB area1] RouterC area4]
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |__Virtual link___|
> >
> > Does this topology is valid in OSPF?
> >
> > I belive that the configuration has topology error, but the
owener
> > said it was
> > working fine without authenication.
> >
> > For I am not familiar with Virtual link, ay comment are welcome?
> >
> > Best Rgds;
> > Vincent Chong
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Re: OSPF virtual link Question [7:3154]

2001-05-04 Thread Vincent Chong

Hi;

Due to the mail system incompatiable, the message was truncated,
I will provide more information to let you guys have more information.

Area 0  is formed by Router A and Router B

Area 1 is formed by Router B and Router C

Area 4 is formed by Router C only.

Router C set up a virtual link with Router A.

The pesron who set up the topology said that it was a valid topoloy without
authenication

But I am not agree, because the topology violate the OSPF area rule, virtual
link rule, this toplogy
will  not function as expected no matter authenication or not.

For I am not a OSPF expert, I would like to hear any advice, suggestion,
discussion.

Any comment will be welcome.

TIA
Vincent Chong

""Vincent Chong""   Hi;
>
> The following scenario
>
>
> [RouteA  area0][area0 RouterB area1] RouterC area4]
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |__Virtual link___|
>
> Does this topology is valid in OSPF?
>
> I belive that the configuration has topology error, but the owener
> said it was
> working fine without authenication.
>
> For I am not familiar with Virtual link, ay comment are welcome?
>
> Best Rgds;
> Vincent Chong
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Re: OSPF virtual link Question [7:3154]

2001-05-04 Thread Charles Lehmann

Configuration topology is okay. In this case you have area 1 as a transit
area.
It should work fine without any authentication.
The thing to know, however, is that the configuration command is a bit
misleading:
(config-router)#area n virtual-link partner-router-id
Where n is, in this case 1.
The router ids should be set as being the IP address coded on the first
loopback interface. By doing so, you prevent OSPF to pick up the "highest"
IP address among all addresses coded on the physical interfaces. Coding a
loopback interface with an IP address forces OSPF to use that address as the
router ID (so you can control it... and you prevent having bad surprises if
you change IP addresses on the physical interfaces).
Of course the similar statement has to be coded on the partner router...

The misleading thing here is that you code the area as being a
virtual-link...

The full syntax can be found at:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr
rp_r/1rfospf.htm#xtocid64137

Kind regards
--
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> Hi;
>
> The following scenario
>
>
> [RouteA  area0][area0 RouterB area1] RouterC area4]
> |
> |
> |
> |
> |__Virtual link___|
>
> Does this topology is valid in OSPF?
>
> I belive that the configuration has topology error, but the owener
> said it was
> working fine without authenication.
>
> For I am not familiar with Virtual link, ay comment are welcome?
>
> Best Rgds;
> Vincent Chong
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OSPF virtual link Question [7:3154]

2001-05-04 Thread Vincent Chong

Hi;

The following scenario


[RouteA  area0][area0 RouterB area1]<--[area1
RouterC area4]
|
|
|
|
|__Virtual link___|

Does this topology is valid in OSPF?

I belive that the configuration has topology error, but the owener
said it was
working fine without authenication.

For I am not familiar with Virtual link, ay comment are welcome?

Best Rgds;
Vincent Chong




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RE: OSPF virtual link question

2000-12-29 Thread NP-BASS LEON

WHERE IS THE DIAGRAM

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Consider the above OSPF network. You have configured a virtual path to
connect Area 3 with Area 0. What is your assessment of this network?

 1.   The network will work. However, you must configure a second
virtual link through router B to ensure there are no routing loops.

2. The network will not work. Area 3 must be directly connected to
Area 0.

3.The network will work properly with no redundant hops.

4.network will work. However, it contains sub-optimal routing as
packets from router D to router C must transit router A

5.network will not work. A routing loop exists as packets destined
for router C from router D must pass through router C twice.




Thanks in advance.
Regards
MK




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RE: OSPF virtual link question

2000-12-26 Thread Brant Stevens

The network diagram isn't attached, but...  It's 4, in my opinion... (from
brainbench, right?  :)



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Consider the above OSPF network. You have configured a virtual path to
connect Area 3 with Area 0. What is your assessment of this network?

 1.   The network will work. However, you must configure a second
virtual link through router B to ensure there are no routing loops.

2. The network will not work. Area 3 must be directly connected to
Area 0.

3.The network will work properly with no redundant hops.

4.network will work. However, it contains sub-optimal routing as
packets from router D to router C must transit router A

5.network will not work. A routing loop exists as packets destined
for router C from router D must pass through router C twice.




Thanks in advance.
Regards
MK




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RE: OSPF virtual link question

2000-12-26 Thread Jason Baker



ummm i think something is missing ? Which above OSP network ?

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Consider the above OSPF network. You have configured a virtual path to
connect Area 3 with Area 0. What is your assessment of this network?

 1.   The network will work. However, you must configure a second
virtual link through router B to ensure there are no routing loops.

2. The network will not work. Area 3 must be directly connected to
Area 0.

3.The network will work properly with no redundant hops.

4.network will work. However, it contains sub-optimal routing as
packets from router D to router C must transit router A

5.network will not work. A routing loop exists as packets destined
for router C from router D must pass through router C twice.




Thanks in advance.
Regards
MK




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RE: OSPF virtual link question

2000-12-26 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Well, it would help immensely if there were a diagram involved. :->

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Consider the above OSPF network. You have configured a virtual path to
connect Area 3 with Area 0. What is your assessment of this network?

 1.   The network will work. However, you must configure a second
virtual link through router B to ensure there are no routing loops.

2. The network will not work. Area 3 must be directly connected to
Area 0.

3.The network will work properly with no redundant hops.

4.network will work. However, it contains sub-optimal routing as
packets from router D to router C must transit router A

5.network will not work. A routing loop exists as packets destined
for router C from router D must pass through router C twice.




Thanks in advance.
Regards
MK




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Re: OSPF virtual link question

2000-12-26 Thread Gareth Hinton

Ditto.  No piccy.

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>
>
> Consider the above OSPF network. You have configured a virtual path to
> connect Area 3 with Area 0. What is your assessment of this network?
>
>  1.   The network will work. However, you must configure a second
> virtual link through router B to ensure there are no routing loops.
>
> 2. The network will not work. Area 3 must be directly connected to
> Area 0.
>
> 3.The network will work properly with no redundant hops.
>
> 4.network will work. However, it contains sub-optimal routing as
> packets from router D to router C must transit router A
>
> 5.network will not work. A routing loop exists as packets destined
> for router C from router D must pass through router C twice.
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Regards
> MK
>
>
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OSPF virtual link question

2000-12-26 Thread Manish Patel




Consider the above OSPF network. You have configured a virtual path to
connect Area 3 with Area 0. What is your assessment of this network?

 1.   The network will work. However, you must configure a second
virtual link through router B to ensure there are no routing loops.

2. The network will not work. Area 3 must be directly connected to
Area 0.

3.The network will work properly with no redundant hops.

4.network will work. However, it contains sub-optimal routing as
packets from router D to router C must transit router A

5.network will not work. A routing loop exists as packets destined
for router C from router D must pass through router C twice.




Thanks in advance.
Regards
MK




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