RE: OSPF Virtual Links [7:60379]

2003-01-18 Thread Eric Brouwers
Hi Matthew,

You must always specify the transit area when configuring a virtual link. So
use following command on both area border routers:
   area transit-area virtual-link ip-address

The configs on page 310 are not correct, since the transit area in the
picture seems to be area 1. Moreover area 1 stub should be removed from
the config.

Configs should be like this:

Router Jack

interface loopback 0
   ip address 10.10.10.33 255.255.255.0
router ospf 100
   network 172.16.20.128 0.0.0.7 area 0
   network 172.16.20.8 0.0.0.7 area 1
   area 1 virtual-link 10.10.10.30

Router Darius
=
interface loopback 0
   ip address 10.10.10.30 255.255.255.0
router ospf 100
   network 172.16.20.32 0.0.0.7 area 5
   network 172.16.20.64 0.0.0.7 area 1
   area 1 virtual-link 10.10.10.33

Actually I'm trying to find an errata for the CCNP Routing Exam
Certification Guide. I couldn't find it on the Cisco Press web site.

Does anyone have an errata for this routing certification guide?

Thanks,

Eric Brouwers





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OSPF Virtual Links [7:60379]

2003-01-05 Thread Matthew Webster
Hi all,

I am studying the Cisco text CCNP Routing Exam Certification Guide and on
page 310 there is an example configuration:

Router Jack
interface loopback 0
ip address 10.10.10.33 255.255.255.0
router ospf 100
network 172.16.20.128 0.0.0.7 area 0
network 172.16.20.8 0.0.0.7 area 1
area 0 range 172.16.20.128 255.255.255.192
area 1 stub
area 1 default-cost 15
area 5 virtual-link 10.10.10.30
Router Darius
loopback interface 0
ip address 10.10.10.30 255.255.255.0
ospf 100
network 172.16.20.32 0.0.0.7 area 5
network 172.16.20.64 0.0.0.7 area 1
area 5 virtual-link 10.0.0.33

I'm interested in lines 10 and 17. I thought the area-id specified is the
transit area, whereas in the diagram over the page the transit area is area
1, and area 0 has a virtual link to area 5. However here they have the
area-id as 5, and not 1 (I would have thought it was 1).
Can anyone confirm whether the area-id is 1 or 5, and why?

any help appreciated.
Matthew.


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RE: OSPF Virtual-links [7:42565]

2002-04-26 Thread Jeremy

Thanks for the reply!  Good point about the router ID. After the first
response, I began playing with the OSPF router-id command, and
subsequently discovered that the virtual-link must be defined as terminating
at the router-id, and not the physical interface or in any specific area.
As far as joining discontiguous nonzero areas, I would be interested to see
the configs...

-Jeremy

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Subject: Re: OSPF Virtual-links [7:42565]


In the world of OSPF, the virtual link end points are the router RID's This
is defined in the RFC.

with virtual links, the hello packet has the V bit set to 1. I believe that
the TTL of the IP packet transporting the VL hello is set to 255. In any
case, virtual link hellos are forwarded until such time as they reach a
router who meets the VL end point requirement or until they reach the end of
the area over which the virtual link is to travel. I presume that virtual
link packets do not wander aimlessly through an OSPF domain, but stop at the
border of the defined transit area.

So, in answer to your question, no, the termination point of the virtual
link does not have to be an interface in area 0.  in fact, virtual links can
be used to join discontiguous non zero areas. There is an example of this in
Terry Slattery's book Advanced IP Routing in Cisco Networks.

HTH



Jeremy  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 My question is regarding OSPF and virtual links.  As you can see, I have
 created an area 23 between R2 and R3 such that R3 will need a virtual link
 defined in order to have a connection to Area 0.  My question is, does R3
 have to peer with an interface in R2 that is a member of area 0?  I have
 noticed that if I put R2's loopback interface (which R3 is peering to) in
 area 23, it fails, whereas, if I move the interface to area 0, the virtual
 link comes up.  Please take a look at the crude diagram below, or the
 attached visio for clarification.  Please let me know your thoughts on
this.
 Thanks again for all of your informed help (and I apologize if this
appears
 to be a less-than-CCIE-caliber question).

 Topology map (excuse the crude map, if you have visio, check out the
 enclosed diagram:
   R5---R1
  /  \
 /\
R4R2--R3

 Router2:
 router ospf 10
  area 23 virtual-link 130.10.23.3
  network 130.10.2.2 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Loopback Interface)
  network 130.10.23.2 0.0.0.0 area 23 (Link to R3 Serial Interface (S1))
  network 130.10.245.2 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Link to R5 Frame-Relay Interface
(S0)
 [DR=R5])

 Router3:
 router ospf 10
  area 23 virtual-link 130.10.2.2 (Virtual link peering to Loopback on R2
(in
 area 0, does it have to be?)
  network 130.10.23.3 0.0.0.0 area 23 (link to R3 Serial Interface (S0))

 Router4:
 router ospf 10
  network 130.10.4.4 0.0.0.0 area 4 (Loopback Interface)
  network 130.10.245.4 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Link to R5 Frame-Relay Interface
(S0)
 [DR=R5])

 Router5:
 router ospf 10
  network 130.10.5.5 0.0.0.0 area 5
  network 130.10.245.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
  neighbor 130.10.245.2
  neighbor 130.10.245.4


 BTW, anyone else taking the exam on April 30th?  I am...heheh...

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OSPF Virtual-links [7:42565]

2002-04-25 Thread Jeremy

My question is regarding OSPF and virtual links.  As you can see, I have
created an area 23 between R2 and R3 such that R3 will need a virtual link
defined in order to have a connection to Area 0.  My question is, does R3
have to peer with an interface in R2 that is a member of area 0?  I have
noticed that if I put R2's loopback interface (which R3 is peering to) in
area 23, it fails, whereas, if I move the interface to area 0, the virtual
link comes up.  Please take a look at the crude diagram below, or the
attached visio for clarification.  Please let me know your thoughts on this.
Thanks again for all of your informed help (and I apologize if this appears
to be a less-than-CCIE-caliber question).

Topology map (excuse the crude map, if you have visio, check out the
enclosed diagram:
  R5---R1
 /  \
/  \
   R4R2--R3

Router2:
router ospf 10
 area 23 virtual-link 130.10.23.3
 network 130.10.2.2 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Loopback Interface)
 network 130.10.23.2 0.0.0.0 area 23 (Link to R3 Serial Interface (S1))
 network 130.10.245.2 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Link to R5 Frame-Relay Interface (S0)
[DR=R5])

Router3:
router ospf 10
 area 23 virtual-link 130.10.2.2 (Virtual link peering to Loopback on R2 (in
area 0, does it have to be?)
 network 130.10.23.3 0.0.0.0 area 23 (link to R3 Serial Interface (S0))

Router4:
router ospf 10
 network 130.10.4.4 0.0.0.0 area 4 (Loopback Interface)
 network 130.10.245.4 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Link to R5 Frame-Relay Interface (S0)
[DR=R5])

Router5:
router ospf 10
 network 130.10.5.5 0.0.0.0 area 5
 network 130.10.245.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
 neighbor 130.10.245.2
 neighbor 130.10.245.4


BTW, anyone else taking the exam on April 30th?  I am...heheh...

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Re: OSPF Virtual-links [7:42565]

2002-04-25 Thread Anthony Pace

I think the VL must be defined on both routers using each others RID not
just any arbitraray interface) In your case maybe the time it worked just
happened to be when you defined the link with the RID.

Anthony Pace

Jeremy  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 My question is regarding OSPF and virtual links.  As you can see, I have
 created an area 23 between R2 and R3 such that R3 will need a virtual link
 defined in order to have a connection to Area 0.  My question is, does R3
 have to peer with an interface in R2 that is a member of area 0?  I have
 noticed that if I put R2's loopback interface (which R3 is peering to) in
 area 23, it fails, whereas, if I move the interface to area 0, the virtual
 link comes up.  Please take a look at the crude diagram below, or the
 attached visio for clarification.  Please let me know your thoughts on
this.
 Thanks again for all of your informed help (and I apologize if this
appears
 to be a less-than-CCIE-caliber question).

 Topology map (excuse the crude map, if you have visio, check out the
 enclosed diagram:
   R5---R1
  /  \
 /\
R4R2--R3

 Router2:
 router ospf 10
  area 23 virtual-link 130.10.23.3
  network 130.10.2.2 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Loopback Interface)
  network 130.10.23.2 0.0.0.0 area 23 (Link to R3 Serial Interface (S1))
  network 130.10.245.2 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Link to R5 Frame-Relay Interface
(S0)
 [DR=R5])

 Router3:
 router ospf 10
  area 23 virtual-link 130.10.2.2 (Virtual link peering to Loopback on R2
(in
 area 0, does it have to be?)
  network 130.10.23.3 0.0.0.0 area 23 (link to R3 Serial Interface (S0))

 Router4:
 router ospf 10
  network 130.10.4.4 0.0.0.0 area 4 (Loopback Interface)
  network 130.10.245.4 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Link to R5 Frame-Relay Interface
(S0)
 [DR=R5])

 Router5:
 router ospf 10
  network 130.10.5.5 0.0.0.0 area 5
  network 130.10.245.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
  neighbor 130.10.245.2
  neighbor 130.10.245.4


 BTW, anyone else taking the exam on April 30th?  I am...heheh...

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Re: OSPF Virtual-links [7:42565]

2002-04-25 Thread Chuck

In the world of OSPF, the virtual link end points are the router RID's This
is defined in the RFC.

with virtual links, the hello packet has the V bit set to 1. I believe that
the TTL of the IP packet transporting the VL hello is set to 255. In any
case, virtual link hellos are forwarded until such time as they reach a
router who meets the VL end point requirement or until they reach the end of
the area over which the virtual link is to travel. I presume that virtual
link packets do not wander aimlessly through an OSPF domain, but stop at the
border of the defined transit area.

So, in answer to your question, no, the termination point of the virtual
link does not have to be an interface in area 0.  in fact, virtual links can
be used to join discontiguous non zero areas. There is an example of this in
Terry Slattery's book Advanced IP Routing in Cisco Networks.

HTH



Jeremy  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 My question is regarding OSPF and virtual links.  As you can see, I have
 created an area 23 between R2 and R3 such that R3 will need a virtual link
 defined in order to have a connection to Area 0.  My question is, does R3
 have to peer with an interface in R2 that is a member of area 0?  I have
 noticed that if I put R2's loopback interface (which R3 is peering to) in
 area 23, it fails, whereas, if I move the interface to area 0, the virtual
 link comes up.  Please take a look at the crude diagram below, or the
 attached visio for clarification.  Please let me know your thoughts on
this.
 Thanks again for all of your informed help (and I apologize if this
appears
 to be a less-than-CCIE-caliber question).

 Topology map (excuse the crude map, if you have visio, check out the
 enclosed diagram:
   R5---R1
  /  \
 /\
R4R2--R3

 Router2:
 router ospf 10
  area 23 virtual-link 130.10.23.3
  network 130.10.2.2 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Loopback Interface)
  network 130.10.23.2 0.0.0.0 area 23 (Link to R3 Serial Interface (S1))
  network 130.10.245.2 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Link to R5 Frame-Relay Interface
(S0)
 [DR=R5])

 Router3:
 router ospf 10
  area 23 virtual-link 130.10.2.2 (Virtual link peering to Loopback on R2
(in
 area 0, does it have to be?)
  network 130.10.23.3 0.0.0.0 area 23 (link to R3 Serial Interface (S0))

 Router4:
 router ospf 10
  network 130.10.4.4 0.0.0.0 area 4 (Loopback Interface)
  network 130.10.245.4 0.0.0.0 area 0 (Link to R5 Frame-Relay Interface
(S0)
 [DR=R5])

 Router5:
 router ospf 10
  network 130.10.5.5 0.0.0.0 area 5
  network 130.10.245.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
  neighbor 130.10.245.2
  neighbor 130.10.245.4


 BTW, anyone else taking the exam on April 30th?  I am...heheh...

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RE: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]

2001-10-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chuck,
Also remember that in a perfect world, virtual links are only meant to be a
quick fix and, in most network designs, they are not an acceptable standard.
My .02c,
Rob H.NP, DP, blah,blah,blah.  
 
 
  

 


  


   1 of 48
 
Subj:   RE: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658] 
Date:   Tue, 2 Oct 2001 8:35:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time 
From:   Chuck Larrieu  
To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
RFC 1793 discusses demand circuits in detail.

I suspect but don not know for sure that virtual circuits are treated as
demand circuits for a couple of reasons. A virtual circuit can traverse a
bunch of routers from point of termination. The designers were sensitive to
the added traffic that LSA's and hellos would add. Remember that the design
work was done back in the days when a T1 was the greatest thing on earth,
and 56K was common in WAN backbones. Also, it might be that the designers
were thinking that virtual links might actually take place over dial up
connections. for example, if I have a small dial up branch office in another
state, I have them dial up to the nearest ( least costly ) branch office,
rather than dial directly to my HQ site.

Chuck

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Curtis Call
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]


This is referring to the fact that the virtual-link is being treated as a
Demand Circuit.  I don't believe that Doyle spoke much about this in his
book,
but I could be wrong.  A Demand Circuit is used for low-bandwidth links such
as ISDN to limit the uptime required for the link, this is done in two ways,
first Hellos are suppressed between the two endpoints, and second LSAs are
not
sent when they expire, instead they are marked as DoNotAge LSAs which act
just
like they sound, they don't age.  These two features are independent of each
other, so for instance you could have a demand circuit that is suppressing
Hellos, but isn't sending DoNotAge LSAs (so the LSAs will still need to be
refreshed) or you could theoretically have a demand circuit that isn't
suppressing Hellos, but is sending DoNotAge LSAs.  In your situation, the
link
is suppressing Hellos as it states, but is not sending DoNotAge LSAs.  This
indicates that somewhere in your OSPF domain there is a router that doesn't
support these LSAs, so the router is not allowed to generate them.  It is a
requirement for a router that supports virtual-links to always try to make
it
a demand circuit, so Cisco routers will always attempt to suppress Hellos
over
virtual links.

For more info you could check out:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr
_c/ipcprt2/1cfospf.htm#xtocid2773922

For even better, go to the source:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1793.txt


Elmer Deloso  wrote:
 Hi.
 On Routing TCP/IP's page 555 there is an output of show ip ospf
 virtual-link
 That has these two info:
 1.DoNotAge LSA not allowed
 2.Adjacency State FULL (Hello suppressed)
 Can someone please explain why these show up in the virtual link info?
 I must have missed the significance somehere in my studies because
 I can't explain these to myself.
 Thank you.

 Elmer Deloso




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RE: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]

2001-10-03 Thread Chuck Larrieu

funny how this quick fix holds a such a place of prominence in the
standard ;-

Chuck

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Chuck,
Also remember that in a perfect world, virtual links are only meant to be a
quick fix and, in most network designs, they are not an acceptable
standard.
My .02c,
Rob H.NP, DP, blah,blah,blah.












   1 of 48

Subj:   RE: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]
Date:   Tue, 2 Oct 2001 8:35:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From:   Chuck Larrieu 
To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RFC 1793 discusses demand circuits in detail.

I suspect but don not know for sure that virtual circuits are treated as
demand circuits for a couple of reasons. A virtual circuit can traverse a
bunch of routers from point of termination. The designers were sensitive to
the added traffic that LSA's and hellos would add. Remember that the design
work was done back in the days when a T1 was the greatest thing on earth,
and 56K was common in WAN backbones. Also, it might be that the designers
were thinking that virtual links might actually take place over dial up
connections. for example, if I have a small dial up branch office in another
state, I have them dial up to the nearest ( least costly ) branch office,
rather than dial directly to my HQ site.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Curtis Call
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]


This is referring to the fact that the virtual-link is being treated as a
Demand Circuit.  I don't believe that Doyle spoke much about this in his
book,
but I could be wrong.  A Demand Circuit is used for low-bandwidth links such
as ISDN to limit the uptime required for the link, this is done in two ways,
first Hellos are suppressed between the two endpoints, and second LSAs are
not
sent when they expire, instead they are marked as DoNotAge LSAs which act
just
like they sound, they don't age.  These two features are independent of each
other, so for instance you could have a demand circuit that is suppressing
Hellos, but isn't sending DoNotAge LSAs (so the LSAs will still need to be
refreshed) or you could theoretically have a demand circuit that isn't
suppressing Hellos, but is sending DoNotAge LSAs.  In your situation, the
link
is suppressing Hellos as it states, but is not sending DoNotAge LSAs.  This
indicates that somewhere in your OSPF domain there is a router that doesn't
support these LSAs, so the router is not allowed to generate them.  It is a
requirement for a router that supports virtual-links to always try to make
it
a demand circuit, so Cisco routers will always attempt to suppress Hellos
over
virtual links.

For more info you could check out:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr
_c/ipcprt2/1cfospf.htm#xtocid2773922

For even better, go to the source:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1793.txt


Elmer Deloso  wrote:
 Hi.
 On Routing TCP/IP's page 555 there is an output of show ip ospf
 virtual-link
 That has these two info:
 1.DoNotAge LSA not allowed
 2.Adjacency State FULL (Hello suppressed)
 Can someone please explain why these show up in the virtual link info?
 I must have missed the significance somehere in my studies because
 I can't explain these to myself.
 Thank you.

 Elmer Deloso




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Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]

2001-10-02 Thread Elmer Deloso

Hi.
On Routing TCP/IP's page 555 there is an output of show ip ospf
virtual-link
That has these two info:
1.  DoNotAge LSA not allowed
2.  Adjacency State FULL (Hello suppressed)
Can someone please explain why these show up in the virtual link info?
I must have missed the significance somehere in my studies because 
I can't explain these to myself.
Thank you.
 
Elmer Deloso




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Re: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]

2001-10-02 Thread Curtis Call

This is referring to the fact that the virtual-link is being treated as a
Demand Circuit.  I don't believe that Doyle spoke much about this in his
book,
but I could be wrong.  A Demand Circuit is used for low-bandwidth links such
as ISDN to limit the uptime required for the link, this is done in two ways,
first Hellos are suppressed between the two endpoints, and second LSAs are
not
sent when they expire, instead they are marked as DoNotAge LSAs which act
just
like they sound, they don't age.  These two features are independent of each
other, so for instance you could have a demand circuit that is suppressing
Hellos, but isn't sending DoNotAge LSAs (so the LSAs will still need to be
refreshed) or you could theoretically have a demand circuit that isn't
suppressing Hellos, but is sending DoNotAge LSAs.  In your situation, the
link
is suppressing Hellos as it states, but is not sending DoNotAge LSAs.  This
indicates that somewhere in your OSPF domain there is a router that doesn't
support these LSAs, so the router is not allowed to generate them.  It is a
requirement for a router that supports virtual-links to always try to make it
a demand circuit, so Cisco routers will always attempt to suppress Hellos
over
virtual links.

For more info you could check out:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr_c/ipcprt2/1cfospf.htm#xtocid2773922

For even better, go to the source:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1793.txt


Elmer Deloso  wrote:
 Hi.
 On Routing TCP/IP's page 555 there is an output of show ip ospf
 virtual-link
 That has these two info:
 1.DoNotAge LSA not allowed
 2.Adjacency State FULL (Hello suppressed)
 Can someone please explain why these show up in the virtual link info?
 I must have missed the significance somehere in my studies because 
 I can't explain these to myself.
 Thank you.
  
 Elmer Deloso


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Re: [Re: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]

2001-10-02 Thread Curtis Call

Sorry, I meant to say that it is a requirement for a router that
supports demand circuits to always attempt to make virtual-
links act as demand circuits.

 It is a
 requirement for a router that supports virtual-links to always try to make
it
 a demand circuit, so Cisco routers will always attempt to suppress




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RE: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]

2001-10-02 Thread Elmer Deloso

Thanks for the reply and the CCO link. I do remember now reading up
On this feature, now all I need to do is set this up at home using
An ISDN simulator to see exactly what OSPF-related packets go through.

Elmer

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From: Curtis Call [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 10:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]

This is referring to the fact that the virtual-link is being treated as a
Demand Circuit.  I don't believe that Doyle spoke much about this in his
book,
but I could be wrong.  A Demand Circuit is used for low-bandwidth links such
as ISDN to limit the uptime required for the link, this is done in two ways,
first Hellos are suppressed between the two endpoints, and second LSAs are
not
sent when they expire, instead they are marked as DoNotAge LSAs which act
just
like they sound, they don't age.  These two features are independent of each
other, so for instance you could have a demand circuit that is suppressing
Hellos, but isn't sending DoNotAge LSAs (so the LSAs will still need to be
refreshed) or you could theoretically have a demand circuit that isn't
suppressing Hellos, but is sending DoNotAge LSAs.  In your situation, the
link
is suppressing Hellos as it states, but is not sending DoNotAge LSAs.  This
indicates that somewhere in your OSPF domain there is a router that doesn't
support these LSAs, so the router is not allowed to generate them.  It is a
requirement for a router that supports virtual-links to always try to make
it
a demand circuit, so Cisco routers will always attempt to suppress Hellos
over
virtual links.

For more info you could check out:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr
_c/ipcprt2/1cfospf.htm#xtocid2773922

For even better, go to the source:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1793.txt


Elmer Deloso  wrote:
 Hi.
 On Routing TCP/IP's page 555 there is an output of show ip ospf
 virtual-link
 That has these two info:
 1.DoNotAge LSA not allowed
 2.Adjacency State FULL (Hello suppressed)
 Can someone please explain why these show up in the virtual link info?
 I must have missed the significance somehere in my studies because 
 I can't explain these to myself.
 Thank you.
  
 Elmer Deloso


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RE: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]

2001-10-02 Thread Chuck Larrieu

RFC 1793 discusses demand circuits in detail.

I suspect but don not know for sure that virtual circuits are treated as
demand circuits for a couple of reasons. A virtual circuit can traverse a
bunch of routers from point of termination. The designers were sensitive to
the added traffic that LSA's and hellos would add. Remember that the design
work was done back in the days when a T1 was the greatest thing on earth,
and 56K was common in WAN backbones. Also, it might be that the designers
were thinking that virtual links might actually take place over dial up
connections. for example, if I have a small dial up branch office in another
state, I have them dial up to the nearest ( least costly ) branch office,
rather than dial directly to my HQ site.

Chuck

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Curtis Call
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Doyle on OSPF - Virtual Links [7:21658]


This is referring to the fact that the virtual-link is being treated as a
Demand Circuit.  I don't believe that Doyle spoke much about this in his
book,
but I could be wrong.  A Demand Circuit is used for low-bandwidth links such
as ISDN to limit the uptime required for the link, this is done in two ways,
first Hellos are suppressed between the two endpoints, and second LSAs are
not
sent when they expire, instead they are marked as DoNotAge LSAs which act
just
like they sound, they don't age.  These two features are independent of each
other, so for instance you could have a demand circuit that is suppressing
Hellos, but isn't sending DoNotAge LSAs (so the LSAs will still need to be
refreshed) or you could theoretically have a demand circuit that isn't
suppressing Hellos, but is sending DoNotAge LSAs.  In your situation, the
link
is suppressing Hellos as it states, but is not sending DoNotAge LSAs.  This
indicates that somewhere in your OSPF domain there is a router that doesn't
support these LSAs, so the router is not allowed to generate them.  It is a
requirement for a router that supports virtual-links to always try to make
it
a demand circuit, so Cisco routers will always attempt to suppress Hellos
over
virtual links.

For more info you could check out:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr
_c/ipcprt2/1cfospf.htm#xtocid2773922

For even better, go to the source:
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1793.txt


Elmer Deloso  wrote:
 Hi.
 On Routing TCP/IP's page 555 there is an output of show ip ospf
 virtual-link
 That has these two info:
 1.DoNotAge LSA not allowed
 2.Adjacency State FULL (Hello suppressed)
 Can someone please explain why these show up in the virtual link info?
 I must have missed the significance somehere in my studies because
 I can't explain these to myself.
 Thank you.

 Elmer Deloso


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I need Help!!! Kindly help me(OSPF Virtual links) [7:674]

2001-04-14 Thread Shahid Muhammad Shafi

Hi Guys.
I am configuring a virtual link between two OSPF
routers but it is not working at all. I am sending u
the configuration and diagram here;. Any help and
pinters will be appreciated.

Regards
Shahid

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MSc Telecommunications Candidate
University of Colorado Boulder
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Current configuration:
!
version 10.2
service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname catbert
!
enable password lab
!
!
interface Ethernet0
ip address 192.168.3.126 255.255.255.224
!
interface Ethernet1
ip address 192.168.3.62 255.255.255.224
!
interface Ethernet2
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Ethernet3
ip address 192.168.21.120 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet4
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Ethernet5
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Ethernet6
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Ethernet7
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Ethernet8
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Ethernet9
ip address 192.168.90.1 255.255.255.0
shutdown
!
interface Ethernet10
ip address 192.168.100.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet11
ip address 192.168.80.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface Fddi0
no ip address
no keepalive
shutdown
!
interface Hssi0
no ip address
shutdown
!
router ospf 1
network 192.168.3.32 0.0.0.31 area 2
network 192.168.3.96 0.0.0.31 area 2
!
no logging console
!
!
line con 0
exec-timeout 0 0
password lab
login
line aux 0
password lab
login
transport input all
line vty 0 4
password lab
login
!
end





Current configuration:
!
version 10.2
!
hostname breckenridge
!
enable password lab
!
!
interface Ethernet0
ip address 192.168.3.97 255.255.255.224
!
interface Ethernet1
ip address 192.168.3.94 255.255.255.224
!
router ospf 1
network 192.168.3.96 0.0.0.31 area 2
network 192.168.3.64 0.0.0.31 area 2
!

Current configuration:
!
version 11.0
service udp-small-servers
service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname aspen
!
enable password lab
!
!
interface Loopback0
 ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet0
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
interface Ethernet1
 ip address 192.168.3.33 255.255.255.224
!
interface Ethernet2
 --More--
%OSPF-4-ERRRCV: Received invalid packet: mismatch area ID, from backbone
area mu
st be virtual-link but not found from 192.168.2.254, Ethernet3

 shutdown
!
interface Ethernet3
 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet4
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
interface Ethernet5
 ip address 192.168.3.65 255.255.255.224
!
interface Ethernet6
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
interface Ethernet7
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
interface Fddi0
 no ip address
 --More--


router ospf 1
 network 192.168.3.32 0.0.0.31 area 2
 network 192.168.3.64 0.0.0.31 area 2
 network 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
 area 2 range 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0
 area 1 virtual-link 1.1.1.1
!
logging console notifications
!
!
line con 0
line aux 0
 transport input all
line vty 0 4
 login
!
end

enable password lab
!
!
interface Loopback0
 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 192.168.1.254 255.255.255.0
 no keepalive
!
interface Ethernet1
 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet2
 --More--

router ospf 1
 network 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 network 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
 area 1 virtual-link 2.2.2.2


Current configuration:
!
version 10.2
service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname dogbert
!
enable password lab
!
!
interface Loopback0
ip address 3.3.3.3 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet0
ip address 192.168.2.254 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet1
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Fddi0
no ip address
no keepalive
shutdown
!
interface Hssi0
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Serial0
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface Serial1
no ip address
shutdown
!
router ospf 1
network 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
!
!
!
line con 0
line aux 0
transport input all
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Re: I need Help!!! Kindly help me(OSPF Virtual links) [7:674]

2001-04-14 Thread David Chandler

Looks like you have E0 of dogbert (area 1) in the same ethernet broadcast
domain as E3
of aspen (Area 0).

The only reason you are not seeing a similar message in dogbert is cause
your console
logging level is differnet in dogbert

DaveC




Shahid Muhammad Shafi wrote:

 Hi Guys.
 I am configuring a virtual link between two OSPF
 routers but it is not working at all. I am sending u
 the configuration and diagram here;. Any help and
 pinters will be appreciated.

 Regards
 Shahid

 =
 Shahid Muhammad Shafi
 MSc Telecommunications Candidate
 University of Colorado Boulder
 BSEE(GIKI),MCSE+I,CNA,CCNA,CCNP

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 Current configuration:
 !
 version 10.2
 service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname catbert
 !
 enable password lab
 !
 !
 interface Ethernet0
 ip address 192.168.3.126 255.255.255.224
 !
 interface Ethernet1
 ip address 192.168.3.62 255.255.255.224
 !
 interface Ethernet2
 no ip address
 shutdown
 !
 interface Ethernet3
 ip address 192.168.21.120 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Ethernet4
 no ip address
 shutdown
 !
 interface Ethernet5
 no ip address
 shutdown
 !
 interface Ethernet6
 no ip address
 shutdown
 !
 interface Ethernet7
 no ip address
 shutdown
 !
 interface Ethernet8
 no ip address
 shutdown
 !
 interface Ethernet9
 ip address 192.168.90.1 255.255.255.0
 shutdown
 !
 interface Ethernet10
 ip address 192.168.100.1 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Ethernet11
 ip address 192.168.80.1 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Fddi0
 no ip address
 no keepalive
 shutdown
 !
 interface Hssi0
 no ip address
 shutdown
 !
 router ospf 1
 network 192.168.3.32 0.0.0.31 area 2
 network 192.168.3.96 0.0.0.31 area 2
 !
 no logging console
 !
 !
 line con 0
 exec-timeout 0 0
 password lab
 login
 line aux 0
 password lab
 login
 transport input all
 line vty 0 4
 password lab
 login
 !
 end

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 10.2
 !
 hostname breckenridge
 !
 enable password lab
 !
 !
 interface Ethernet0
 ip address 192.168.3.97 255.255.255.224
 !
 interface Ethernet1
 ip address 192.168.3.94 255.255.255.224
 !
 router ospf 1
 network 192.168.3.96 0.0.0.31 area 2
 network 192.168.3.64 0.0.0.31 area 2
 !

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 11.0
 service udp-small-servers
 service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname aspen
 !
 enable password lab
 !
 !
 interface Loopback0
  ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Ethernet0
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 interface Ethernet1
  ip address 192.168.3.33 255.255.255.224
 !
 interface Ethernet2
  --More--
 %OSPF-4-ERRRCV: Received invalid packet: mismatch area ID, from backbone
 area mu
 st be virtual-link but not found from 192.168.2.254, Ethernet3

  shutdown
 !
 interface Ethernet3
  ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Ethernet4
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 interface Ethernet5
  ip address 192.168.3.65 255.255.255.224
 !
 interface Ethernet6
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 interface Ethernet7
  no ip address
  shutdown
 !
 interface Fddi0
  no ip address
  --More--

 router ospf 1
  network 192.168.3.32 0.0.0.31 area 2
  network 192.168.3.64 0.0.0.31 area 2
  network 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
  area 2 range 192.168.3.0 255.255.255.0
  area 1 virtual-link 1.1.1.1
 !
 logging console notifications
 !
 !
 line con 0
 line aux 0
  transport input all
 line vty 0 4
  login
 !
 end

 enable password lab
 !
 !
 interface Loopback0
  ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Ethernet0
  ip address 192.168.1.254 255.255.255.0
  no keepalive
 !
 interface Ethernet1
  ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Ethernet2
  --More--

 router ospf 1
  network 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
  network 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
  area 1 virtual-link 2.2.2.2

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 10.2
 service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname dogbert
 !
 enable password lab
 !
 !
 interface Loopback0
 ip address 3.3.3.3 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Ethernet0
 ip address 192.168.2.254 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Ethernet1
 no ip address
 shutdown
 !
 interface Fddi0
 no ip address
 no keepalive
 shutdown
 !
 interface Hssi0
 no ip address
 shutdown
 !
 interface Serial0
 no ip address
 shutdown
 !
 interface Serial1
 no ip address
 shutdown
 !
 router ospf 1
 network 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 !
 !
 !
 line con 0
 line aux 0
 transport input all
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Re: OSPF virtual links

2001-04-08 Thread Stefan Dozier

At 03:59 PM 4/7/01 -0400, Fred Danson wrote:

Fred I setup Lab #30 just to see if I would experience the same thing,
and initially I did, until I rebooted RouterA (your R2503). 
Somehow rebooting allowed reachability and I was able to ping
the 152.1.1.1 address (actaully I used 192.168.104.3).

I also noticed the "ip ospf interface-retry 0" on several interfaces
in your config, I had them in mine's also. I gotta look that one up
but I suspect that it appears in the config because the opposite side
of the link hasn't been initialized or configured yet!

After I deleted all the "ip ospf interface-retry 0" entries off the
interface configs and rebooted all three routers, I still have
reachibility to 192.168.104.3 (your 152.1.1.1) and also found 
that network 192.168.104.0 (your 152.1.0.0) is in the routing 
table of RouterB (your 2523).

I have all the router configs and sh commands as well as the 
capture of the successful ping, but I'll reserve posting them
to save bandwidth until I hear if you rebooted and cleaned up
the configs and your problem still exist.

Stefan


Hey group,

I am in the middle of Lab #30 from the CCIE Lab Study Guide which involves 
OSPF virtual links. Here's my configs:

R2503 - backbone router
hostname r2503
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Ethernet0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial0
ip address 192.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
no ip mroute-cache
no fair-queue
!
interface Serial1
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface BRI0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
router ospf 100
network 192.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 0
!
ip classless
!
!
!
line con 0
transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
!
end

--

R2523- backbone router, link between R2503  R4000
hostname r2523
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Serial0
ip address 193.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
no ip mroute-cache
no fair-queue
!
interface Serial1
ip address 192.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
clockrate 64000
!
interface Serial2
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial3
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial4
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial5
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial6
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial7
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial8
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial9
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface TokenRing0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface BRI0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
router ospf 100
area 1 virtual-link 3.3.3.3
network 192.1.1.2 0.0.0.0 area 0
network 193.1.1.2 0.0.0.0 area 1
!
ip classless
!
!
!
line con 0
transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
!
end

-

R4000, in areas 1  4, has a virtual link through R2523
hostname r4000
!
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
ip address 3.3.3.3 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet0
ip address 152.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
no keepalive
media-type 10BaseT
!
interface Serial0
ip address 193.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
no ip mroute-cache
no fair-queue
clockrate 64000
!
interface Serial1
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface TokenRing0
no ip address
shutdown
!
router ospf 100
network 152.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 4
network 193.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 1
area 1 virtual-link 2.2.2.2
!
ip classless
!
!
!
line con 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
login
!
end

-

the virtual link seems to be working fine. Here's a paste of
show ip ospf virtual-link from r2523
r2523#show ip ospf vir
Virtual Link OSPF_VL0 to router 3.3.3.3 is up
  Run as demand circuit
  DoNotAge LSA allowed.
  Transit area 1, via interface Serial0, Cost of using 64
  Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State POINT_TO_POINT,
  Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5
Hello due in 00:00:01
Adjacency State FULL (Hello suppressed)

Here's a paste of show ip ospf virtual-link from r4000
r4000#show ip ospf vir
Virtual Link OSPF_VL0 to router 2.2.2.2 is up
  Run as demand circuit
  DoNotAge LSA allowed.
  Transit area 1, via interface Serial0, Cost of using 64
  Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State POINT_TO_POINT,
  Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5
Hello due in 00:00:03
Adjacency State FULL (Hello suppressed)

Here's the problem. I cannot ping r4000's ethernet interface (which is in 
area 4) from r2503. the network statement for 152.1.1.0/24 is in r2503's 
route table, but not in r2523's route table.

r2503#show ip route
Codes: C - c

Re: OSPF virtual links

2001-04-08 Thread Stefan Dozier

At 03:59 PM 4/7/01 -0400, Fred Danson wrote:

interface Serial0
ip address 192.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0   see CCO link below
no ip mroute-cache
no fair-queue


http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/28.shtml


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Re: OSPF virtual links

2001-04-08 Thread Arthur Simplina

My comments follow below. Please let me know how it worked out.


---
 OSPF virtual links. Here's my configs:  R2503 - backbone router 
 hostname r2503 !


 router ospf 100 network 192.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 0 
 --

Please change your config to:
   router ospf 100
   network 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0


---

 R2523- backbone router, link between R2503  R4000 hostname r2523


 router ospf 100 area 1 virtual-link 3.3.3.3 network 192.1.1.2 0.0.0.0 
area 0 network 193.1.1.2 0.0.0.0 area 1  
 -

For R2523, please change your config to:
  router ospf 100
  area 1 virtual-link 3.3.3.3
  network 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
  network 193.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1

---

  R4000, in areas 1  4, has a virtual link through R2523 hostname r4000

 router ospf 100 network 152.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 4 network 193.1.1.1 
0.0.0.0 area 1 area 1 virtual-link 2.2.2.2 !
-

For R4000, please change your config to:
   router ospf 100
   network 152.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 4
   network 193.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
   area 1 virtual-link 2.2.2.2

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Re: OSPF virtual links

2001-04-08 Thread Fred Danson

The changes you listed really won't do anything. As long as the IP address 
on the interface falls into the network + wildcard mask range used in the 
network statement, it will work fine. You can check to see if the interface 
is active in the ospf process using the show ip ospf interface command.


From: "Arthur Simplina" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Arthur Simplina" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OSPF virtual links
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 20:15:15 -0400

My comments follow below. Please let me know how it worked out.


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 OSPF virtual links. Here's my configs:  R2503 - backbone router
 hostname r2503 !


 router ospf 100 network 192.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 0
 --

Please change your config to:
   router ospf 100
   network 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0


---

 R2523- backbone router, link between R2503  R4000 hostname r2523


 router ospf 100 area 1 virtual-link 3.3.3.3 network 192.1.1.2 0.0.0.0
area 0 network 193.1.1.2 0.0.0.0 area 1 
 -

For R2523, please change your config to:
  router ospf 100
  area 1 virtual-link 3.3.3.3
  network 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
  network 193.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1

---

  R4000, in areas 1  4, has a virtual link through R2523 hostname 
r4000

 router ospf 100 network 152.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 4 network 193.1.1.1
0.0.0.0 area 1 area 1 virtual-link 2.2.2.2 !
-

For R4000, please change your config to:
   router ospf 100
   network 152.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 4
   network 193.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 1
   area 1 virtual-link 2.2.2.2

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OSPF virtual links

2001-04-07 Thread Fred Danson

Hey group,

I am in the middle of Lab #30 from the CCIE Lab Study Guide which involves 
OSPF virtual links. Here's my configs:

R2503 - backbone router
hostname r2503
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Ethernet0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial0
ip address 192.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
no ip mroute-cache
no fair-queue
!
interface Serial1
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface BRI0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
router ospf 100
network 192.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 0
!
ip classless
!
!
!
line con 0
transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
!
end

--

R2523- backbone router, link between R2503  R4000
hostname r2523
!
!
ip subnet-zero
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Serial0
ip address 193.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
no ip mroute-cache
no fair-queue
!
interface Serial1
ip address 192.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip ospf interface-retry 0
clockrate 64000
!
interface Serial2
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial3
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial4
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial5
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial6
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial7
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial8
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface Serial9
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface TokenRing0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
interface BRI0
no ip address
no ip directed-broadcast
shutdown
!
router ospf 100
area 1 virtual-link 3.3.3.3
network 192.1.1.2 0.0.0.0 area 0
network 193.1.1.2 0.0.0.0 area 1
!
ip classless
!
!
!
line con 0
transport input none
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
!
end

-

R4000, in areas 1  4, has a virtual link through R2523
hostname r4000
!
!
!
!
interface Loopback0
ip address 3.3.3.3 255.255.255.0
!
interface Ethernet0
ip address 152.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
no keepalive
media-type 10BaseT
!
interface Serial0
ip address 193.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
no ip mroute-cache
no fair-queue
clockrate 64000
!
interface Serial1
no ip address
shutdown
!
interface TokenRing0
no ip address
shutdown
!
router ospf 100
network 152.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 4
network 193.1.1.1 0.0.0.0 area 1
area 1 virtual-link 2.2.2.2
!
ip classless
!
!
!
line con 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
login
!
end

-

the virtual link seems to be working fine. Here's a paste of
show ip ospf virtual-link from r2523
r2523#show ip ospf vir
Virtual Link OSPF_VL0 to router 3.3.3.3 is up
  Run as demand circuit
  DoNotAge LSA allowed.
  Transit area 1, via interface Serial0, Cost of using 64
  Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State POINT_TO_POINT,
  Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5
Hello due in 00:00:01
Adjacency State FULL (Hello suppressed)

Here's a paste of show ip ospf virtual-link from r4000
r4000#show ip ospf vir
Virtual Link OSPF_VL0 to router 2.2.2.2 is up
  Run as demand circuit
  DoNotAge LSA allowed.
  Transit area 1, via interface Serial0, Cost of using 64
  Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State POINT_TO_POINT,
  Timer intervals configured, Hello 10, Dead 40, Wait 40, Retransmit 5
Hello due in 00:00:03
Adjacency State FULL (Hello suppressed)

Here's the problem. I cannot ping r4000's ethernet interface (which is in 
area 4) from r2503. the network statement for 152.1.1.0/24 is in r2503's 
route table, but not in r2523's route table.

r2503#show ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate 
default
   U - per-user static route, o - ODR

Gateway of last resort is not set

 1.0.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
C   1.1.1.0 is directly connected, Loopback0
 152.1.0.0/24 is subnetted, 1 subnets
O IA152.1.1.0 [110/138] via 192.1.1.2, 00:17:22, Serial0
O IA 193.1.1.0/24 [110/128] via 192.1.1.2, 00:17:22, Serial0
C192.1.1.0/24 is directly connected, Serial0

r2523#show ip route
Codes: C - connected, S - static, I - IGRP, R - RIP, M - mobile, B - BGP
   D - EIGRP, EX - EIGRP external, O - OSPF, IA - OSPF inter area
   N1 - OSPF NSSA external type 1, N2 - OSPF NSSA external type 2
   E1 - OSPF external type 1, E2 - OSPF external type 2, E - EGP
   i - IS-IS, L1 - IS-IS level-1, L2 - IS-IS level-2, * - candidate

Revisted - OSPF Virtual Links and RIDs

2000-12-30 Thread Nigel Taylor

Chuck,
I finally got a chance to mock this up in the lab and I've
got
some pretty cool resultsFirst of all when I did this using pretty much
the same scenario the virtual link never went down at any time when
 the connection to r3 from r2 was shutdown.  After clearing the routes
and ospf redistribution the virtual-link was still up/up.

Theory that stood the testI then used a external routing
 info.(rip) to advertise routes to the loopback identified with the
virtual-link command.  With a direct path/route between both
loopbacks I then shut down the physical link between R1 and R2.
As expected, the virtual-link stayed down and never  came back up.

In Doyle's book (Routing TCP/IP) he states that the virtual-link must be
configured between two ABR's and the area it transits must having full
routing info.  I take the meaning of this as having a full map of the
network.
There is also a mention of using a non-backbone area, which I also
take to mean - "An OSPF Area"  in which case any external routing
info used to obtain a path to the loopback would prove useless if not
 part of an OSPF area that is either directly connected to area or
is connected by the same process a virtual-link

Just some observations..

Any thoughts...!

This is some really cool stuff.

Nigel.



- Original Message -
From: Chuck Larrieu [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CCIE_Lab Groupstudy List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2000 1:12 PM
Subject: OSPF Virtual Links and RIDs


 Just got through with one of the multiprotocol redistribution practice
labs
 ( Mentor Labs 4141 )

 Got a question regarding virtual links and loopback RIDs.

 In the realm of OSPF, when direct ( meaning through the OSPF process )
 access to a particular router is lost, does that mean that any virtual
link
 associated with that router is lost? Well, yes, I know, and duh!

 But my question has to do with the placement of the RID into the routing
 process.

 The deal is that there is an alternative link to the OSPF area 0. However
it
 is through a different routing protocol. All routes are redistributed
 through that protocol, and when the direct i.e. OSPF link between the two
 endpoints of the virtual link are severed, even though the route to the
RID
 is seen via the redistribution process, the virtual link apparently does
not
 come back up.

 This leads back to the question of the value of loopback addresses as a
cure
 all for routing process interruptions. In the scenario I ran, there was a
 classic virtual link.

 R1-R2---R3  connected via serial links
 Area2area1.area0

 All routers have loopbacks, which under the rules of the game have become
 the RID's

 There is also an external routing domain connecting R1 and R3 via the
 ethernet ports. Redistribution is established, and works just fine.

 When I severed the serial link between R2 and R3, the virtual link goes
 down, and does not re-establish itself, even though the RID is being
 advertised as a route into the exterior domain, and remains in the routing
 tables of all routers as external routes.

 I kinda expected this behaviour, but it still raises the question of the
 supposed benefit of loopbacks as an interface that is "always up" and
 therefore advantageous to use.

 One of those "pitfalls" someone was asking about a couple of weeks back, I
 suppose.

 Chuck
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