RE: PVC status don't go down [7:35389]

2002-02-17 Thread Anthony Toh

I thks to all who come to advise, really appreciate.


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RE: PVC status don't go down [7:35389]

2002-02-16 Thread Nick S.

Ok, The PVC status would never go down till the switch reports it as down,
and only then will the line protocol go down.

I have come across this scenario a couple of times (with ATM, concept is the
same). And the trick is to use a routing protocol between the 2 routers, a
routing protocol senses that the keepalives / hellos are not being answered
and so will consider the neighbor as down, and in turn will activate the
isdn circuit.

You could also use dialer watch, watch a route and if that route goes down
(when one end of the frame goes down) activate the isdn.

hth
Nick


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RE: PVC status don't go down [7:35389]

2002-02-16 Thread Erick B.

You could also use Frame-Relay End-To-End keepalives
(FREEK). This works best if a subinterface is used.

--- Nick S.  wrote:
 Ok, The PVC status would never go down till the
 switch reports it as down,
 and only then will the line protocol go down.
 
 I have come across this scenario a couple of times
 (with ATM, concept is the
 same). And the trick is to use a routing protocol
 between the 2 routers, a
 routing protocol senses that the keepalives / hellos
 are not being answered
 and so will consider the neighbor as down, and in
 turn will activate the
 isdn circuit.
 
 You could also use dialer watch, watch a route and
 if that route goes down
 (when one end of the frame goes down) activate the
 isdn.
 
 hth
 Nick


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RE: PVC status don't go down [7:35389]

2002-02-15 Thread Anthony Toh

You see Eric, because I have an ISDN line as backup, that's why I need both
routers to see the PVC as down for any failure that happen on either side.
In that case, both routers can then activate the ISDN from either side and
use the backup route properly.
Now, with router B not able to see the frame relay route down, it keeps
sending data through the PVC.


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PVC status don't go down [7:35389]

2002-02-14 Thread Anthony Toh

Can anyone enlight me on this. I have 2 sites connected through a Frame
Relay network as below :

Router A  Frame Relay  Router B

My question is this

when interface of router A goes down, router B cannot notice it and the
whole PVC is not updated as down. But when the interfaces of both routers
are configured as subinterface, router B can then update router A's
interface as down and the whole PVC goes down. What is concept behind ? Why
doesn't the keepalive update both side properly ?

Anthony.


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Re: PVC status don't go down [7:35389]

2002-02-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The physical interface won't go down until their is a loss of signal from
the switch.  Is the line protocol up or down on the main interface of
router B when router A is down?

I look at it like this.  Say I have a T1 Frame Relay circuit with 20 64K
PVCs mapped to other circuits in a network. If one of the remote routers
goes down I sure don't want my T1 to go down.  The Subinterface however
will show down.  This happens in the frame relay network.  Once the PVC is
built through the frame relay cloud the network knows whether or not either
side of the PVC is sending and receiving LMI. If LMI goes away on one end
of the PVC, the PVC itself is affected not the connection from the
router/CSU to the frame relay switch.

Hope this helps!

Eric Lange



   
  
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Can anyone enlight me on this. I have 2 sites connected through a Frame
Relay network as below :

Router A  Frame Relay  Router B

My question is this

when interface of router A goes down, router B cannot notice it and the
whole PVC is not updated as down. But when the interfaces of both routers
are configured as subinterface, router B can then update router A's
interface as down and the whole PVC goes down. What is concept behind ? Why
doesn't the keepalive update both side properly ?

Anthony.




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