Please help - this is quiet urgent

2001-03-27 Thread Gayathri

Hello

I have a strange problem here. WE upgraded our AS400 system. The AS 400 is
equipped with a fddi card and a fast ethernet card both on 2 different
vlans.

When I try to connect from my NT server to the AS400 the session keeps
timing out. This problem occured only after the upgradation.

out of 34 branches ( this is a banking environment) only 3 servers can
connect.

When i try to sniff at the nt server, the output shows that there is a SYN
from the nt server and RST from AS400.

IBM guys are here, but we dont seem to get across a solution.

The NT server are running service pack 3.

Is this related to any session time out ??

If anybody has come across a similar problem please share your ideas. CAnt
seem to decide whether at all this is a network problem


Thanks





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RE: Please help - this is quiet urgent

2001-03-27 Thread Andrew Larkins

what kind of upgrade was done on the AS400??.
How does the AS400 connect to the network?? STUN, DLSW

-Original Message-
From: Gayathri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 27 March 2001 14:41
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Please help - this is quiet urgent


Hello

I have a strange problem here. WE upgraded our AS400 system. The AS 400 is
equipped with a fddi card and a fast ethernet card both on 2 different
vlans.

When I try to connect from my NT server to the AS400 the session keeps
timing out. This problem occured only after the upgradation.

out of 34 branches ( this is a banking environment) only 3 servers can
connect.

When i try to sniff at the nt server, the output shows that there is a SYN
from the nt server and RST from AS400.

IBM guys are here, but we dont seem to get across a solution.

The NT server are running service pack 3.

Is this related to any session time out ??

If anybody has come across a similar problem please share your ideas. CAnt
seem to decide whether at all this is a network problem


Thanks





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Re: Please help - this is quiet urgent

2001-03-27 Thread gayathri

The connectivity is like this:

AS400 (Fast Ether) ->  CAT55 Switch --? Router

The branches connect to the AS400 thru a NT Server , client access is used -
sna connectivity




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> what kind of upgrade was done on the AS400??.
> How does the AS400 connect to the network?? STUN, DLSW
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gayathri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 27 March 2001 14:41
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Please help - this is quiet urgent
>
>
> Hello
>
> I have a strange problem here. WE upgraded our AS400 system. The AS 400 is
> equipped with a fddi card and a fast ethernet card both on 2 different
> vlans.
>
> When I try to connect from my NT server to the AS400 the session keeps
> timing out. This problem occured only after the upgradation.
>
> out of 34 branches ( this is a banking environment) only 3 servers can
> connect.
>
> When i try to sniff at the nt server, the output shows that there is a SYN
> from the nt server and RST from AS400.
>
> IBM guys are here, but we dont seem to get across a solution.
>
> The NT server are running service pack 3.
>
> Is this related to any session time out ??
>
> If anybody has come across a similar problem please share your ideas. CAnt
> seem to decide whether at all this is a network problem
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: Please help - this is quiet urgent

2001-03-27 Thread Mask Of Zorro


Seems like your "upgradation" resulted in a "degradation"... [=`)

Seriously, this does not appear to be a "network" problem. Especially since 
it does not seem that the "network" has been changed (I am assuming that the 
"upgradation" of the AS400 iincluded only software).
The network appears to be functioning, in that the request from the NT 
server for a TCP session is reaching the AS400. The fact that it is being 
met with a RST is another matter altogether.

In fact, that is where I would begin. What are the criteria required for the 
NT servers to successfully establish a session with the AS400? Do they 
include specific addresses (IP, or MAC), authentication issues, etc? An RST 
(reset) message from the AS400 is essentially equivalent to the AS400 
hanging up the phone...

What are the time deltas between the SYN and the RST? If you attempt to 
connect a number of times in a row, are the deltas consistent? Do pings 
display the same sorts of delta's? What are the characteristics of those 
servers that DO connect and how do they differ from those that cannot?

I have asked a number of questions here - please DO NOT send me the answers. 
I simply want to point you toward some things to think about. Bottom line - 
there are a number of criteria for establishing a connection to the AS400, 
and those criteria are no longer being met. Determine what those criteria 
are and which ones are not met, then deterimine why not. This will lead you 
to the solution.

Good luck!

Z

PS - I hope this isn't my bank...

>From: Andrew Larkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Andrew Larkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Gayathri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Please help - this is quiet urgent
>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 15:12:57 +0200
>
>what kind of upgrade was done on the AS400??.
>How does the AS400 connect to the network?? STUN, DLSW
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Gayathri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 27 March 2001 14:41
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Please help - this is quiet urgent

>
>Hello
>
>I have a strange problem here. WE upgraded our AS400 system. The AS 400 is
>equipped with a fddi card and a fast ethernet card both on 2 different
>vlans.
>
>When I try to connect from my NT server to the AS400 the session keeps
>timing out. This problem occured only after the upgradation.
>
>out of 34 branches ( this is a banking environment) only 3 servers can
>connect.
>
>When i try to sniff at the nt server, the output shows that there is a SYN
>from the nt server and RST from AS400.
>
>IBM guys are here, but we dont seem to get across a solution.
>
>The NT server are running service pack 3.
>
>Is this related to any session time out ??
>
>If anybody has come across a similar problem please share your ideas. CAnt
>seem to decide whether at all this is a network problem
>
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Please help - this is quiet urgent

2001-03-27 Thread John Neiberger

This is a wild guess, but perhaps you have some assymetrical routing
problems.  By that I mean that after the upgrade the AS400 might be
"routing" differently than it was before.  If it has two connections to
the network, maybe it is using the wrong one for return traffic to the
NT server.  From the NT server's point of view it would be seeing return
traffic from the wrong IP address and would not be able to establish a
tcp connection.

That's just a guess, but it's something worth looking into.

Regards,
John

>>> "Gayathri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/27/01 5:40:30 AM >>>
Hello

I have a strange problem here. WE upgraded our AS400 system. The AS 400
is
equipped with a fddi card and a fast ethernet card both on 2 different
vlans.

When I try to connect from my NT server to the AS400 the session keeps
timing out. This problem occured only after the upgradation.

out of 34 branches ( this is a banking environment) only 3 servers can
connect.

When i try to sniff at the nt server, the output shows that there is a
SYN
from the nt server and RST from AS400.

IBM guys are here, but we dont seem to get across a solution.

The NT server are running service pack 3.

Is this related to any session time out ??

If anybody has come across a similar problem please share your ideas.
CAnt
seem to decide whether at all this is a network problem


Thanks





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RE: Please help - this is quiet urgent

2001-03-27 Thread Jim Dixon

So what you are saying is that
you have an NT server for a router?

-Original Message-
From: gayathri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Please help - this is quiet urgent


The connectivity is like this:

AS400 (Fast Ether) ->  CAT55 Switch --? Router

The branches connect to the AS400 thru a NT Server , client access is used -
sna connectivity




"Andrew Larkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
8F5F72F80EF5D311ADE600A0C9DCF8620112C11B@UBDCCOMJHBEX">news:8F5F72F80EF5D311ADE600A0C9DCF8620112C11B@UBDCCOMJHBEX...
> what kind of upgrade was done on the AS400??.
> How does the AS400 connect to the network?? STUN, DLSW
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Gayathri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 27 March 2001 14:41
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Please help - this is quiet urgent
>
>
> Hello
>
> I have a strange problem here. WE upgraded our AS400 system. The AS 400 is
> equipped with a fddi card and a fast ethernet card both on 2 different
> vlans.
>
> When I try to connect from my NT server to the AS400 the session keeps
> timing out. This problem occured only after the upgradation.
>
> out of 34 branches ( this is a banking environment) only 3 servers can
> connect.
>
> When i try to sniff at the nt server, the output shows that there is a SYN
> from the nt server and RST from AS400.
>
> IBM guys are here, but we dont seem to get across a solution.
>
> The NT server are running service pack 3.
>
> Is this related to any session time out ??
>
> If anybody has come across a similar problem please share your ideas. CAnt
> seem to decide whether at all this is a network problem
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Please help - this is quiet urgent

2001-03-27 Thread Allen May

Service Pack 3?  There's all kinds of TCP/IP fixes since then.  Get SP6a if
company policy allows you to.  Also if you're using it for a router, are you
just using route add statements or are you using RAS or RRAS?  RAS and RRAS
also need SP5 (I think) or higher to be stable.  Actually RRAS wouldn't work
at all for me earlier service packs.  I'm guessing at which one you need to
make it stable but it's posted in the white papers on microsoft.com.

If you can't upgrade the service pack, install SP3 again.  Maybe something
overwrote shared system files.

Also check your bandwidth utilization on the server.  If NT is used as a
router you need a seriously fast machine (especially bus speed) to handle
anything close to full capacity of the NIC.  I like NT very much but I'm not
afraid to admit that it stinks at TCP/IP transfer speed.  With a crossover
cable between 2 boxes with no other traffic I only got 6 to 12Mb throughput
on 100Mb cards.  But then again it had a 66Mhz bus so maybe that had
something to do with it.

Is the NT Server doing routing or is it also doing some kind of client
services to connect users to shared resources on the AS400?

Hope I can help you out here.

Allen

- Original Message -
From: "Jim Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "gayathri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 12:52 PM
Subject: RE: Please help - this is quiet urgent


> So what you are saying is that
> you have an NT server for a router?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gayathri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Please help - this is quiet urgent
>
>
> The connectivity is like this:
>
> AS400 (Fast Ether) ->  CAT55 Switch --? Router
>
> The branches connect to the AS400 thru a NT Server , client access is
used -
> sna connectivity
>
>
>
>
> "Andrew Larkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 8F5F72F80EF5D311ADE600A0C9DCF8620112C11B@UBDCCOMJHBEX">news:8F5F72F80EF5D311ADE600A0C9DCF8620112C11B@UBDCCOMJHBEX...
> > what kind of upgrade was done on the AS400??.
> > How does the AS400 connect to the network?? STUN, DLSW
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Gayathri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 27 March 2001 14:41
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Please help - this is quiet urgent
> >
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > I have a strange problem here. WE upgraded our AS400 system. The AS 400
is
> > equipped with a fddi card and a fast ethernet card both on 2 different
> > vlans.
> >
> > When I try to connect from my NT server to the AS400 the session keeps
> > timing out. This problem occured only after the upgradation.
> >
> > out of 34 branches ( this is a banking environment) only 3 servers can
> > connect.
> >
> > When i try to sniff at the nt server, the output shows that there is a
SYN
> > from the nt server and RST from AS400.
> >
> > IBM guys are here, but we dont seem to get across a solution.
> >
> > The NT server are running service pack 3.
> >
> > Is this related to any session time out ??
> >
> > If anybody has come across a similar problem please share your ideas.
CAnt
> > seem to decide whether at all this is a network problem
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Please help - this is quiet urgent

2001-03-28 Thread CiscoDiety

Gayathri,

How are you routing the traffic? Are you using DLSW or RSRB?

Make sure you check your bitswap on the token interface also.




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From: "John Neiberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: Please help - this is quiet urgent


> This is a wild guess, but perhaps you have some assymetrical routing
> problems.  By that I mean that after the upgrade the AS400 might be
> "routing" differently than it was before.  If it has two connections to
> the network, maybe it is using the wrong one for return traffic to the
> NT server.  From the NT server's point of view it would be seeing return
> traffic from the wrong IP address and would not be able to establish a
> tcp connection.
>
> That's just a guess, but it's something worth looking into.
>
> Regards,
> John
>
> >>> "Gayathri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3/27/01 5:40:30 AM >>>
> Hello
>
> I have a strange problem here. WE upgraded our AS400 system. The AS 400
> is
> equipped with a fddi card and a fast ethernet card both on 2 different
> vlans.
>
> When I try to connect from my NT server to the AS400 the session keeps
> timing out. This problem occured only after the upgradation.
>
> out of 34 branches ( this is a banking environment) only 3 servers can
> connect.
>
> When i try to sniff at the nt server, the output shows that there is a
> SYN
> from the nt server and RST from AS400.
>
> IBM guys are here, but we dont seem to get across a solution.
>
> The NT server are running service pack 3.
>
> Is this related to any session time out ??
>
> If anybody has come across a similar problem please share your ideas.
> CAnt
> seem to decide whether at all this is a network problem
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Please help - this is quiet urgent

2001-03-30 Thread Tey Haw Ching

I believe you are using MS SNA at the branches end. Try the following to see whether
would solved the problem.
1. Vary off the existing branches controller.
2. rename the controller
3. Let the AS400 Recreate the controlller and devices again.

Hope it work.


Gayathri wrote:

> Hello
>
> I have a strange problem here. WE upgraded our AS400 system. The AS 400 is
> equipped with a fddi card and a fast ethernet card both on 2 different
> vlans.
>
> When I try to connect from my NT server to the AS400 the session keeps
> timing out. This problem occured only after the upgradation.
>
> out of 34 branches ( this is a banking environment) only 3 servers can
> connect.
>
> When i try to sniff at the nt server, the output shows that there is a SYN
> from the nt server and RST from AS400.
>
> IBM guys are here, but we dont seem to get across a solution.
>
> The NT server are running service pack 3.
>
> Is this related to any session time out ??
>
> If anybody has come across a similar problem please share your ideas. CAnt
> seem to decide whether at all this is a network problem
>
> Thanks
>
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