Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]

2003-07-31 Thread Stevo
Hey all,

I have a 3640 router with 2 ethernet interfaces (I'm only using 1 of them) -
I'd like to connect a sniffer up to the unused ethernet interface and
monitor the traffic from the other interface.  Is this possible on a
router??

Stevo




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RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]

2003-07-31 Thread Joseph Brunner
Look into IOS bridging. You would then see layer 2 broadcasts
(not unicasts) come through the router. This is true regardless of
whether or not the actual switch on port 1 is a span port or not. 

Even if the first router port (connected to the network) is on a switch's
span port, the layer 2 bridge (done in ios by the router)
still cant forward all traffic thru (like cat6 rspan).

The routers dont have a "span" like way of doing this.




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RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]

2003-08-01 Thread Vikram JeetSingh
Hi stevo,

I am assuming that the router's working ethernet interface would be
connected to some interface on a switch, so won't it be a better idea to
monitor that switch port, rather than trying to monitor router interface.


HTH


Vikram



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Hey all,

I have a 3640 router with 2 ethernet interfaces (I'm only using 1 of them) -
I'd like to connect a sniffer up to the unused ethernet interface and
monitor the traffic from the other interface.  Is this possible on a
router??

Stevo




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RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]

2003-08-01 Thread alaerte Vidali
It would be useful if the IOS guys added this facility. Specially for
monitoring ATM interfaces (sniffer ATM modules are really expensive).


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RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]

2003-08-01 Thread Reimer, Fred
I don't think that is logically possible.  How are you going to span ATM
cells onto Ethernet frames?  A MUCH better facility would be to specify a
chunk of memory and do a packet capture, which could be filtered with an ACL
and downloaded with FTP or TFTP (either from or to an IOS box would be
acceptable to me).  Then you could look at actual ATM cells, given a decoder
that understood them...

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It would be useful if the IOS guys added this facility. Specially for
monitoring ATM interfaces (sniffer ATM modules are really expensive).




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RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]

2003-08-01 Thread Creighton, Bill, NSPM
Did I miss a post? Where did ATM and Ethernet come into this? I thought we
were talking about 3600 Ethernet interfaces, not network modules...

I don't know what type of traffic you're looking to sniff - obviously layer
2 since we're talking frames vs. cells, ATM vs. Ethernet, but if you're
looking to MONitor a traffic from a non-source, non-destination workstation,
wouldn't that indicate an RMON probe like NI's Observer? Using an RMON probe
wouldn't require you to occupy the other router interface, just connected to
that network on the switch or hub...

Bill Creighton CCNP
Network Design Engineer, eVPN
AT&T Business Service Delivery NSPM
231 Martingale Road, Suite 800
Schaumburg, IL 60173-2008
Office:   847-407-4108
Fax:   847-598-6400
Mobile:630-290-7000
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> From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]
> 
> 
> I don't think that is logically possible.  How are you going 
> to span ATM
> cells onto Ethernet frames?  A MUCH better facility would be 
> to specify a
> chunk of memory and do a packet capture, which could be 
> filtered with an ACL
> and downloaded with FTP or TFTP (either from or to an IOS box would be
> acceptable to me).  Then you could look at actual ATM cells, 
> given a decoder
> that understood them...
> 
> Fred Reimer - CCNA
> 
> 
> Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338
> Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050
> 
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> It would be useful if the IOS guys added this facility. Specially for
> monitoring ATM interfaces (sniffer ATM modules are really expensive).
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RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]

2003-08-01 Thread Reimer, Fred
Don't ask me how ATM got into it.  Someone said they would like the ability
to SPAN ATM traffic, and I just can't figure out how that would be possible.

Even if we are talking about SPANning between Ethernet interfaces I still
believe that a packet capture facility would be useful...

Fred Reimer - CCNA


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From: Creighton, Bill, NSPM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:32 PM
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Subject: RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]

Did I miss a post? Where did ATM and Ethernet come into this? I thought we
were talking about 3600 Ethernet interfaces, not network modules...

I don't know what type of traffic you're looking to sniff - obviously layer
2 since we're talking frames vs. cells, ATM vs. Ethernet, but if you're
looking to MONitor a traffic from a non-source, non-destination workstation,
wouldn't that indicate an RMON probe like NI's Observer? Using an RMON probe
wouldn't require you to occupy the other router interface, just connected to
that network on the switch or hub...

Bill Creighton CCNP
Network Design Engineer, eVPN
AT&T Business Service Delivery NSPM
231 Martingale Road, Suite 800
Schaumburg, IL 60173-2008
Office:   847-407-4108
Fax:   847-598-6400
Mobile:630-290-7000
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


> -Original Message-
> From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]
> 
> 
> I don't think that is logically possible.  How are you going 
> to span ATM
> cells onto Ethernet frames?  A MUCH better facility would be 
> to specify a
> chunk of memory and do a packet capture, which could be 
> filtered with an ACL
> and downloaded with FTP or TFTP (either from or to an IOS box would be
> acceptable to me).  Then you could look at actual ATM cells, 
> given a decoder
> that understood them...
> 
> Fred Reimer - CCNA
> 
> 
> Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338
> Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050
> 
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> 
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> From: alaerte Vidali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]
> 
> It would be useful if the IOS guys added this facility. Specially for
> monitoring ATM interfaces (sniffer ATM modules are really expensive).
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Re: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]

2003-08-01 Thread Stevo
I wanted to span the port so I could attach an IDS sensor to it to monitor
the traffic entering / leaving my network.

""Reimer, Fred""  wrote in message
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> Don't ask me how ATM got into it.  Someone said they would like the
ability
> to SPAN ATM traffic, and I just can't figure out how that would be
possible.
>
> Even if we are talking about SPANning between Ethernet interfaces I still
> believe that a packet capture facility would be useful...
>
> Fred Reimer - CCNA
>
>
> Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338
> Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050
>
>
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Creighton, Bill, NSPM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]
>
> Did I miss a post? Where did ATM and Ethernet come into this? I thought we
> were talking about 3600 Ethernet interfaces, not network modules...
>
> I don't know what type of traffic you're looking to sniff - obviously
layer
> 2 since we're talking frames vs. cells, ATM vs. Ethernet, but if you're
> looking to MONitor a traffic from a non-source, non-destination
workstation,
> wouldn't that indicate an RMON probe like NI's Observer? Using an RMON
probe
> wouldn't require you to occupy the other router interface, just connected
to
> that network on the switch or hub...
>
> Bill Creighton CCNP
> Network Design Engineer, eVPN
> AT&T Business Service Delivery NSPM
> 231 Martingale Road, Suite 800
> Schaumburg, IL 60173-2008
> Office:   847-407-4108
> Fax:   847-598-6400
> Mobile:    630-290-7000
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Reimer, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:32 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]
> >
> >
> > I don't think that is logically possible.  How are you going
> > to span ATM
> > cells onto Ethernet frames?  A MUCH better facility would be
> > to specify a
> > chunk of memory and do a packet capture, which could be
> > filtered with an ACL
> > and downloaded with FTP or TFTP (either from or to an IOS box would be
> > acceptable to me).  Then you could look at actual ATM cells,
> > given a decoder
> > that understood them...
> >
> > Fred Reimer - CCNA
> >
> >
> > Eclipsys Corporation, 200 Ashford Center North, Atlanta, GA 30338
> > Phone: 404-847-5177  Cell: 770-490-3071  Pager: 888-260-2050
> >
> >
> > NOTICE; This email contains confidential or proprietary
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> > may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named
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> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: alaerte Vidali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:00 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Port Spanning (Monitoring) [7:73320]
> >
> > It would be useful if the IOS guys added this facility. Specially for
> > monitoring ATM interfaces (sniffer ATM modules are really expensive).
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