Re: Question? [7:61716]

2003-01-24 Thread J.D. Chaiken
I have 2 thoughts on this.

The first is that on my test rack; where I'm reverse telnetting into the
console ports;  If I power cycle certain models of router my telnet session
is dropped.  (MC3810, and 3620 that I'm aware of.)  I can only assume that
this is teh same thing that happening to the modem.

The second, also on my home rack, but I've used these in production
environments, are X-10 PLC appliance modules (also available by many other
manufacturers) .  which can Physically power cycle devices remotely.  I've
found these type devices to be a life saver for remote offices, or
co-located servers where you need to power cycle a server and no one is
available to push  a button for you.  The X-10 Boxes are reasonably
reliable, and I haven't had too many problems with them over the years.  But
there are better more expensive devices available for critical applications.


Jarett

""Alan Cowan""  wrote in message
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> It is possible to do a password recovery by a modem connection to the
> console port. The same conditions apply as when you perform this
> procedure locally at the router. When you perform a router password
> recovery, you have to physically power cycle the router... The only way
> to do this if you do not already have the enable password is to have
> someone physically at the router. The "reload" command only works when
> you have entered enable mode on the router.
>
> The answer is that if you do not have the router passwords for the
> router and want to perform password recovery, someone needs to power
> cycle the router, though the person performing the IOS password recovery
> procedure can be remote via a modem through the console port.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charles D Hammonds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Question? [7:61716]
>
> I have not been able to perfrom password recovery via a modem connected
> directly to console. When the router reloads, you get disconnected and
> have to re-dial which by that time is too late to break. In my
> experience, I have had to dial up to a 2511 and connect to console of
> the problem router that way...
>
> Charles
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Michael Williams
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:24 PM
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> Subject: RE: Question? [7:61716]
>
>
> Uh... if he could get into enable mode to issue a 'reload' command, he
> could just change the password and there wouldn't be any need to do a
> password recovery?!?!?
>
> Mike W.




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RE: Question? [7:61716]

2003-01-24 Thread Alan Cowan
It is possible to do a password recovery by a modem connection to the
console port. The same conditions apply as when you perform this
procedure locally at the router. When you perform a router password
recovery, you have to physically power cycle the router... The only way
to do this if you do not already have the enable password is to have
someone physically at the router. The "reload" command only works when
you have entered enable mode on the router.

The answer is that if you do not have the router passwords for the
router and want to perform password recovery, someone needs to power
cycle the router, though the person performing the IOS password recovery
procedure can be remote via a modem through the console port.

-Original Message-
From: Charles D Hammonds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Question? [7:61716]

I have not been able to perfrom password recovery via a modem connected
directly to console. When the router reloads, you get disconnected and
have to re-dial which by that time is too late to break. In my
experience, I have had to dial up to a 2511 and connect to console of
the problem router that way...

Charles

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Michael Williams
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Subject: RE: Question? [7:61716]


Uh... if he could get into enable mode to issue a 'reload' command, he
could just change the password and there wouldn't be any need to do a
password recovery?!?!?

Mike W.




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RE: Question? [7:61716]

2003-01-24 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.
I have done this several times and never experienced the issue below. As
long as you are on the console port this should not be an issue. I would be
curious to know what type of modem you are using and dip switch settings. I
generally use US robotics.

-Original Message-
From: Charles D Hammonds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Question? [7:61716]

I have not been able to perfrom password recovery via a modem connected
directly to console. When the router reloads, you get disconnected and have
to re-dial which by that time is too late to break. In my experience, I have
had to dial up to a 2511 and connect to console of the problem router that
way...

Charles

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Michael Williams
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Subject: RE: Question? [7:61716]


Uh... if he could get into enable mode to issue a 'reload' command, he could
just change the password and there wouldn't be any need to do a password
recovery?!?!?

Mike W.




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RE: Question? [7:61716]

2003-01-23 Thread Charles D Hammonds
I have not been able to perfrom password recovery via a modem connected
directly to console. When the router reloads, you get disconnected and have
to re-dial which by that time is too late to break. In my experience, I have
had to dial up to a 2511 and connect to console of the problem router that
way...

Charles

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Michael Williams
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Subject: RE: Question? [7:61716]


Uh... if he could get into enable mode to issue a 'reload' command, he could
just change the password and there wouldn't be any need to do a password
recovery?!?!?

Mike W.




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RE: Question? [7:61716]

2003-01-23 Thread Michael Williams
Uh... if he could get into enable mode to issue a 'reload' command, he could
just change the password and there wouldn't be any need to do a password
recovery?!?!?

Mike W.


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RE: Question? [7:61716]

2003-01-23 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.
You should be fine. Just make sure you are on the console port. Also, verify
the break sequence for your terminal emulation software.

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Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 4:04 PM
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I want to do a password recovery over a dialup modem conected to the console
port. Is it possible or do I have to be physically present at the router?

""Captian Lance""  wrote in message
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> Depends on what you mean by dialup?
> If you can get to enable mode you can restart the router. Just type
> 'reload'.  uh don't forget to do a wri mem (copy run start).
>
> Lance
>
>
> ""Edwin Gonzalez""  wrote in message
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> > Is it possible to reload a router over dial up to change the password or
> do
> > I have to be physically at the router?




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Re: Question? [7:61716]

2003-01-23 Thread Captian Lance
It is possible. just issue the 'reload' command

Lance

""Edwin Gonzalez""  wrote in message
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> I want to do a password recovery over a dialup modem conected to the
console
> port. Is it possible or do I have to be physically present at the router?
>
> ""Captian Lance""  wrote in message
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> > Depends on what you mean by dialup?
> > If you can get to enable mode you can restart the router. Just type
> > 'reload'.  uh don't forget to do a wri mem (copy run start).
> >
> > Lance
> >
> >
> > ""Edwin Gonzalez""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Is it possible to reload a router over dial up to change the password
or
> > do
> > > I have to be physically at the router?




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Re: Question? [7:61716]

2003-01-23 Thread Edwin Gonzalez
I want to do a password recovery over a dialup modem conected to the console
port. Is it possible or do I have to be physically present at the router?

""Captian Lance""  wrote in message
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> Depends on what you mean by dialup?
> If you can get to enable mode you can restart the router. Just type
> 'reload'.  uh don't forget to do a wri mem (copy run start).
>
> Lance
>
>
> ""Edwin Gonzalez""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Is it possible to reload a router over dial up to change the password or
> do
> > I have to be physically at the router?




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Re: Question? [7:61716]

2003-01-23 Thread Captian Lance
Depends on what you mean by dialup?
If you can get to enable mode you can restart the router. Just type
'reload'.  uh don't forget to do a wri mem (copy run start).

Lance


""Edwin Gonzalez""  wrote in message
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> Is it possible to reload a router over dial up to change the password or
do
> I have to be physically at the router?




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Question? [7:61716]

2003-01-23 Thread Edwin Gonzalez
Is it possible to reload a router over dial up to change the password or do
I have to be physically at the router?




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