RE: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Cisco does actually let you turn off split horizon for AppleTalk RTMP. I 
don't think it is officially supported, but it does work. It's also not 
officially supported by the AppleTalk specification (Inside AppleTalk).

So this got me wondering about IPX RIP. Of course, disabling split horizon 
is not officially supported for IPX RIP, per Novell's specification. And 
Cisco does not officially support turning it off either, but would the IOS 
let you do it anyway?

The answer seems to be no on my routers running 11.0, but it would be worth 
a try on a more recent router (if my husband would let me buy new 
routers... ;-)

Albany#config t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
Albany(config)#appletalk routing
Albany(config)#int e0
Albany(config-if)#apple cable 10-10
Albany(config-if)#apple zone noparking
Albany(config-if)#no apple rtmp split-horizon
Albany(config-if)#ipx routing
Albany(config)#int e0
Albany(config-if)#ipx network 10
Albany(config-if)#no ipx split-horizon
% Incomplete command.
Albany(config-if)#no ipx split-horizon ?
   eigrp  Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP)
Albany(config-if)#no ipx split-horizon eigrp
% Incomplete command.
Albany(config-if)#no ipx split-horizon eigrp ?
 Autonomous system number
Albany(config-if)#no ipx split-horizon eigrp 10

Of course, as we all know, if you use EIGRP for AppleTalk or IPX, then you 
can disable split horizon.

Priscilla

At 11:39 AM 9/10/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
>I did a lot of research on that topic last year when I developed Sybex's
>CCNA Virtual Test Center.  The following is an excerpt from that product:
>
>Split horizon can be disabled on a Frame Relay interface for some protocols,
>such as TCP/IP, but it cannot be disabled for protocols such as IPX (except
>when using EIGRP) and AppleTalk.
>
>
>   -- Leigh Anne
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Phantom
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:45 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't
disable
> > split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these
> > are correct
> > and for which routing protocols can I do it.
> >
> > Thanks for the help
> >
> > Pieter Jordaan


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Re: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread MADMAN

Yes and this is another reason you want to configure frame relay with
p-to-p subinterfaces.

  Dave

Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
> 
> I did a lot of research on that topic last year when I developed Sybex's
> CCNA Virtual Test Center.  The following is an excerpt from that product:
> 
> Split horizon can be disabled on a Frame Relay interface for some
protocols,
> such as TCP/IP, but it cannot be disabled for protocols such as IPX (except
> when using EIGRP) and AppleTalk.
> 
>   -- Leigh Anne
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Phantom
> > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:45 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't
disable
> > split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these
> > are correct
> > and for which routing protocols can I do it.
> >
> > Thanks for the help
> >
> > Pieter Jordaan
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RE: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

I did a lot of research on that topic last year when I developed Sybex's
CCNA Virtual Test Center.  The following is an excerpt from that product:

Split horizon can be disabled on a Frame Relay interface for some protocols,
such as TCP/IP, but it cannot be disabled for protocols such as IPX (except
when using EIGRP) and AppleTalk.


  -- Leigh Anne

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Phantom
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]
>
>
> Hi
>
> I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't disable
> split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these
> are correct
> and for which routing protocols can I do it.
>
> Thanks for the help
>
> Pieter Jordaan




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Re: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is only for IPX RIP.
Rob H. NP, DP, blah,blah,blah.




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Re: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread Phantom

Thanks


""EA Louie""  wrote in message
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> For Cisco, the only IPX routing protocol that allows disabling of
> split-horizon is eigrp.  See (watch URL wrap)
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/33.html
> for that and other IPX case studies, and search for split-horizon in the
> text for your specific issue.  The solution given by Cisco is to use
> point-to-point sub-interfaces if using IPX RIP to work around the IPX
> split-horizon issue.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Phantom"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:06 AM
> Subject: Re: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Neither books give any details as to why you would do it. The one says
you
> > can if you want (may in situations where you are using fram relay. The
> other
> > book says you can't disable it at all (ever).
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > ""Fanglo""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Can you specify why your book state you cannot do so? Under what
> > situation?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Fanglo
> > >
> > > Phantom wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi
> > > >
> > > >I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't
> > disable
> > > >split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these are
> > correct
> > > >and for which routing protocols can I do it.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks for the help
> > > >
> > > >Pieter Jordaan
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Re: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread EA Louie

For Cisco, the only IPX routing protocol that allows disabling of
split-horizon is eigrp.  See (watch URL wrap)
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/33.html
for that and other IPX case studies, and search for split-horizon in the
text for your specific issue.  The solution given by Cisco is to use
point-to-point sub-interfaces if using IPX RIP to work around the IPX
split-horizon issue.

- Original Message -
From: "Phantom" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]


> Hi
>
> Neither books give any details as to why you would do it. The one says you
> can if you want (may in situations where you are using fram relay. The
other
> book says you can't disable it at all (ever).
>
> Thanks
>
>
> ""Fanglo""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can you specify why your book state you cannot do so? Under what
> situation?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Fanglo
> >
> > Phantom wrote:
> >
> > >Hi
> > >
> > >I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't
> disable
> > >split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these are
> correct
> > >and for which routing protocols can I do it.
> > >
> > >Thanks for the help
> > >
> > >Pieter Jordaan
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Re: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread Philip Jache

you can't disable split horizon for IPX RIP.

Phil


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Re: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-09 Thread Phantom

Hi

Neither books give any details as to why you would do it. The one says you
can if you want (may in situations where you are using fram relay. The other
book says you can't disable it at all (ever).

Thanks


""Fanglo""  wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Can you specify why your book state you cannot do so? Under what
situation?
>
> Regards,
> Fanglo
>
> Phantom wrote:
>
> >Hi
> >
> >I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't
disable
> >split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these are
correct
> >and for which routing protocols can I do it.
> >
> >Thanks for the help
> >
> >Pieter Jordaan




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Re: Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-09 Thread Fanglo

Hi,

Can you specify why your book state you cannot do so? Under what situation?

Regards,
Fanglo

Phantom wrote:

>Hi
>
>I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't disable
>split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these are correct
>and for which routing protocols can I do it.
>
>Thanks for the help
>
>Pieter Jordaan




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Question about split horizon & IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-09 Thread Phantom

Hi

I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't disable
split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these are correct
and for which routing protocols can I do it.

Thanks for the help

Pieter Jordaan




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