Re: CCIE written. .books? [7:7584]
I too realized that I needed one central book. Despite all the controversy, I chose the All In One CCIE (SECOND EDITION). With a quick glance, while standing in Borders, I thought the Sybex wasn't as technical. I must admit to having purchased another 10 or so books since then... Phil - Original Message - From: anthony moore To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: CCIE written. .books? [7:7584] > I have seen the list of books that Cisco recommends. By the time I get done > reading these books the exam will have already changed and it seems as > though I will need to read an additional 9 books. Can anyone recommend 1 > good book that covers all the detail? I don't care how long it is. > Am I being realistic? How is the Cybex CCIE book? > > Thanks > > Anthony Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7586&t=7584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE written. .books? [7:7584]
To throw in a couple of cents on this topic, my recollection is that the CCIE written was in many ways similar to the CID exam, but with the added emphasis on token ring and RIF's. My own recommendation would be to use your CID materials for the desktop stuff, download the white papers found on Cccert and groupstudy, and thoroughly review how data moves through a network. Certification zone is a worthwhile investment. Excellent white papers ( disclosure - I have been compensated by cert zone for certain work done ) even though it is filled with errors, the exam cram book by Thomas and associates contains the rest of what you need. I was surprised to find that the CCIE written was far easier than I expected. Having gone through the CCNx tracks alleviated much of the difficulty of the exam. Fair warning - the Lab will get you. Having passed the written in no way qualifies you or prepares you for the actual Lab exam. I call the written "base camp" and the Lab "Everest" the analogy is about right. You are two thirds there in height, but that last third is 10 times harder than the first 2/3's, and your working without oxygen most of the way. Best wishes Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 12:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE written. .books? [7:7584] I too realized that I needed one central book. Despite all the controversy, I chose the All In One CCIE (SECOND EDITION). With a quick glance, while standing in Borders, I thought the Sybex wasn't as technical. I must admit to having purchased another 10 or so books since then... Phil - Original Message - From: anthony moore To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:32 PM Subject: CCIE written. .books? [7:7584] > I have seen the list of books that Cisco recommends. By the time I get done > reading these books the exam will have already changed and it seems as > though I will need to read an additional 9 books. Can anyone recommend 1 > good book that covers all the detail? I don't care how long it is. > Am I being realistic? How is the Cybex CCIE book? > > Thanks > > Anthony Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7594&t=7584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written. .books? [7:7584]
Anthony - one of my study partners has loaned me the CCIE 350-001: Routing and Switching Prep Kit ISBN 078972359X. It has been very hepful and it also has the entire book on CD (if you carry your laptop around all the time, that's a real bonus). Additionally, it has Flash Notes and a Test Engine with 240 questions and answers. Also, there is an Objectives Index that comes right from the CCIE R&S Blueprint to help you assess your knowledge of the subjects. If your background is good, this book will present the information that you need to pass the test, and also give you places to "jump off" if you need to do more research on a subject (for example, my weaknesses are BGP, security TACACS and RADIUS, and multimedia) you can do your research on the web or using the 9 books that you have referenced. (Or you can ask here :-) Good luck with your studies!!! PS - I'm scheduled for my CCIE Written next Wednesday...wish me luck, please! -e- - Original Message - From: "anthony moore" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: CCIE written. .books? [7:7584] > I have seen the list of books that Cisco recommends. By the time I get done > reading these books the exam will have already changed and it seems as > though I will need to read an additional 9 books. Can anyone recommend 1 > good book that covers all the detail? I don't care how long it is. > Am I being realistic? How is the Cybex CCIE book? > > Thanks > > Anthony Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7596&t=7584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written. .books? [7:7584]
Bruce Caslow's second edition. >>>Brian >From: "anthony moore" >Reply-To: "anthony moore" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: CCIE written. .books? [7:7584] >Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:32:05 -0400 > >I have seen the list of books that Cisco recommends. By the time I get >done >reading these books the exam will have already changed and it seems as >though I will need to read an additional 9 books. Can anyone recommend 1 >good book that covers all the detail? I don't care how long it is. >Am I being realistic? How is the Cybex CCIE book? > >Thanks > >Anthony _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7606&t=7584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written. .books? [7:7584]
Hi Anthony, I second the opinions found here.I'm cutting and pasting a posting I did on the networkstudyguide.com website after I passed the CCIE written at the end of April. I hope this helps - it's not a 'single' source but gives you a good foundation... Alright, enough with all the pleasantries, just wanted to give everyone a heads-up on how I conquered the written (now on to the true beast - the lab - gulp!) Like has been written before, the CCIE written isn't too much harder than the CCNP questions - just the breadth of the subjects is so much more diverse. I was actually quite shocked at my test - after reading all those posts about RIF's and token-this and bridge/ring-that and canonical addresses - I was expecting a large percentage of the test to be devoted to those areas which I never-ever use. Well guess what - I think that I had maybe 6 questions on tokens and bridges - no RIF's, no canonical addresses - I want to write "What a waste!" but can't feel guilty after knowing more than before. I want to list all my sources that I used in preparation for the test so everyone can see how I prepared. In order of relevance to the test my studies included: 1) CCDP - cornerstone of Cisco cert. logic. You're almost there when this is done. 2) CCNP - questions are similar in testing ability. Just the amount of material is more daunting. 3) BSCN class - took the class a week ago even though I had my NP knocked out in November. Class very relevant to the CCIE written - probably 40% of the written I knew from that class alone. 4) Boson tests 1 and 2 by Bernard O. Kept a tally going during the CCIE written - over 40 questions on the CCIE written also in the Boson tests (or very similar). Can't say enough about them. 5) CCIE notes from sitamoht.com. Started reading the notes a few days ago and found them extremely relevant and hit some topics in a different light. http://sitamoht.com/cciewe.html 6) Lou Rossi's token ring paper from CCPrep.com. Yeah, yeah, I know, I wrote that I didn't have that many token questions but this is the paper that made me prepared for whatever they threw . http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf 7) RIF generator from Chad Dixon (member of this site). Again, I know that RIF wasn't big on my test but Chad's cool little site helped get the RIFs down cold. Thanks Chad! http://www.loopy.org/rif.cgi 8) Newserver from Groupstudy.com - groupstudy.com's newsgroup rocks, it's free, and it's very busy. And with help from sources such as L. Oppenheimer (Top Down Network Design - CiscoPress), H. Berkowitz (various BGP papers and books), John Swartz (co-wrote Sybex's CCIE study guide with Lammle) you can't go wrong. 9) Archives from Groupstudy.com. Thousands of posts from people that have had questions just like us - search and your questions will be answered! http://www.groupstudy.com/cgi-bin/wilma/cisco 10) This site with posts from Egraus and lpgao. - search hard. < from networkstudyguide.com, not groupstudy stuff. 11) Lammle's Sybex CCIE Study guide - good if you can only carry around one book for the CCIE - not enough though but gets your feet wet. 12) Caslow's routing book - we've all seen the reviews - a must for the lab and a great review for written. Will admit - Boson's tests (ie - Bernard's tests) references the Caslow book an awful lot for questions. 13) Google's site - used to be Deja's site. Not as active as it used to be but still a great studying spot. http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djq&as_ugroup=alt.certification.cisco 14) I bought a subscription to CertZone. Before the test I thought it was a great site. After taking the test, I now look back and think I could have utizlized my time better elsewhere. The tests they have are much more difficult than the CCIE written. Can't blame someone though for trying to make one smarter. They're docs are great and I plan to use them for the labs. Good luck Anthony, Sean C. PS - if you need to find me - I'll be at the lab alter preparing to be sacrificed!! CCNP, CCDP, MCSE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=7618&t=7584 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
