RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
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RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I am not sure why this debate keeps popping up here, but we all must realize that everybody is different. If a guy in Texas owns a very expensive cowboy hat and decides to wear it Saturday night, some Dixie chicks might find him very attractive, while some girls visiting from Australia would probably find him a bit ridiculous. Some people has been working very hard for their titles, and I can understand when they want to show other people what they have achieved. A more important thing could be that many IT recruiters and IT managers knows what CCNA is, but they have never heard of CCNP nor CCIE. It's sad when you have the higher title, but you can't really change that, so a thing you can do is to put all your titles on, so you can hope they at least recognize one of them. Again, it's very individual and where you're from on the globe is probably also a matter. Some women still present themselves as Mrs. Their-Husbands-Name, which I find ridiculous, but if they like it, then I won't go into a deeper discussion about it. So, could we please just live with what others put after their name (unless it's insulting) and get on with our list. My 0010 cents. Ole ~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~ Need a Job? http://www.OleDrews.com/job ~ -Original Message- From: Matthew Meiers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 8:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] I think it all comes back to Freud and is theory on mans envy about his equipment. "Mine's bigger than yours!" I think it is all a bit rediculous. Enough said -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ladrach, Daniel E. Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] Why do people even care? I thought this group study was to ask technical questions! However, we are debating what goes on an e-mail signature. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: geek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get hung up on titles. -Joe- ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and picker flicker :^) ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification > in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one > listed? I mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, > you should only list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39526&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I think it all comes back to Freud and is theory on mans envy about his equipment. "Mine's bigger than yours!" I think it is all a bit rediculous. Enough said -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ladrach, Daniel E. Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] Why do people even care? I thought this group study was to ask technical questions! However, we are debating what goes on an e-mail signature. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: geek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get hung up on titles. -Joe- ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and picker flicker :^) ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification > in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one > listed? I mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, > you should only list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39523&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
Why do people even care? I thought this group study was to ask technical questions! However, we are debating what goes on an e-mail signature. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: geek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get hung up on titles. -Joe- ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and picker flicker :^) ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39520&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
Thanks, i needed a laugh today. Ko "Kazan, Naim" wrote: > That is funny dude. Pick a winner for me:)- > > -Original Message- > From: geek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] > > I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've > accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. > > We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get > hung up on titles. > > -Joe- > ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and > picker flicker :^) > > ""John Faubion"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in > your > > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show > CCNA, > > CCNP in their title. > > > > Thanks, > > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39479&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
That is funny dude. Pick a winner for me:)- -Original Message- From: geek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get hung up on titles. -Joe- ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and picker flicker :^) ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39476&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
When I get my CCNP, I am going to put it on my license plate of my car. I hear chicks really dig it. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39471&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I also agree that it belongs on a resume but listing everything you've accomplished in an email (or NG) sig is a bit much. We should always be proud of our accomplishments but lets try not to get hung up on titles. -Joe- ABC, DEF, GHI, JK, LMNOP, QRST (written), nose picker, butt picker and picker flicker :^) ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39469&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I was really only referring to their use in email. I definitely understand placing them all in a resume along with the dates attained and so forth. John Faubion, CCNP - Original Message - From: "Steven A. Ridder" To: Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:30 AM Subject: Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] > That's what I thought, but someone came up with a good examples as to why to > list them all. A liot of HR people aren't technically proficient, so if > they have a job requirement that lists a CCNA CCNP or other cert, and you > just list your CCNP, then the HR rep might not understand that the CCNP > superceeds the CCNA and may pass you over for a job. I find it best to just > list them all on a res, and just list the highest when speaking to a tech. > > -- > > RFC 1149 Compliant. > Get in my head: > http://sar.dynu.com > > > ""John Faubion"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in > your > > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show > CCNA, > > CCNP in their title. > > > > Thanks, > > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39463&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I fully agree with you. My personal opinion is that one validates one's credibility in an email north of the name, not south. pete At 12:44 PM 3/25/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list > > that show CCNA, CCNP in their title. > >I list them all, along with the acquisition dates, on my resume. As Steven >mentioned, HR screening might be an issue. > >The only reason to put such things in an e-mail (or a book jacket) is for >vanity, IMO. I work with a number of Ph.d's and they don't walk around >calling themselves "doctor." Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39445&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
I would recommend listing all current certs. somewhere in body of the Resume. This opinion is primarily due to the resume scanning programs that are used by large corps. These programs are very similar to technology used by web bots they index key search criteria. For an example of winning resume formats go to http://www.career-resumes.com/ there are more resources listed www.nationjob.com . -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Faubion Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437] This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in your title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only list CCNP in your title block, right? The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, CCNP in their title. Thanks, John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39443&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
> The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list > that show CCNA, CCNP in their title. I list them all, along with the acquisition dates, on my resume. As Steven mentioned, HR screening might be an issue. The only reason to put such things in an e-mail (or a book jacket) is for vanity, IMO. I work with a number of Ph.d's and they don't walk around calling themselves "doctor." Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39440&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA, CCNP Titles [7:39437]
That's what I thought, but someone came up with a good examples as to why to list them all. A liot of HR people aren't technically proficient, so if they have a job requirement that lists a CCNA CCNP or other cert, and you just list your CCNP, then the HR rep might not understand that the CCNP superceeds the CCNA and may pass you over for a job. I find it best to just list them all on a res, and just list the highest when speaking to a tech. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Get in my head: http://sar.dynu.com ""John Faubion"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is probably a dumb question but when placing your certification in your > title block, shouldn't the highest certification be the only one listed? I > mean since the CCNA is a requirement to attain your CCNP, you should only > list CCNP in your title block, right? > > The reason I ask is due to the number of people on this list that show CCNA, > CCNP in their title. > > Thanks, > John Faubion, CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=39439&t=39437 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
