RE: CCSP [7:57713]
Hi, I can't agree more. I won't bother taking another cisco exam that doesn't provide any clear value. CSS-1 has not been widely recognized, and yet it is slated to be retired. I won't expect much coming from CCSP and the three other security cert. I am beginning to have a negative bias on Cisco exams that shortlived or frequently changed as a mean to revenue-earning .. Regards, Leonard Ong, CISSP, CSS-1, CCSE+, CCMSE CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, MCDBA, LCP Network Security Specialist, APAC NOKIA Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile. +65 9431 6184 Phone. +65 6723 1724 Fax.+65 6723 1596 -Original Message- From: ext Godswill HO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713] If you take one of the 3 specialized courses plus MCNS exam, you become a Specialist in that area eg 1. CSPFA+MCNS = Firewall Specialist 2. CSVPN+MCNS = VPN specialist 3. IDSPM+MCNS = IDS Specialsit For a Limited time more: CSPFA+CSVPN+IDSPM+MCNS = CSS1 Also CSPFA+CSVPN+IDSPM+MCNS+SAFE= CCSP From now till 09/03 People like my humble self who already have the CSS1 designation would need take only the SAFE exam to become CCSP. I did not see any true meaning to all these. Cisco should know better. my 0.02 Regards Godswill CCNP,CCDP,CSS1 (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) --- Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote: Nevermind - sometime earlier they enabled the links... -Original Message- From: Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713] Good Info! I tried following the link for those new Specialist certs on Cisco's site, but the link is broken - are Specialists defined now by completing only the individual exams? (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) -Original Message- From: Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCSP [7:57713] Joshua The CCSP is basically just a realignment of the current Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification into the Cisco Professional track. It does add one more exam to the requirements but other than that no real change. Cisco has even 'generously' allowed current CSS1s to take the remaining exam to get the cert. :-) As for the new specialist level certs, they are just dumbed down ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H more focussed variations of the CSS1. I really dont think Cisco have thought this one through as anyone who attains CCSP (with the current versions of the exams), will also automatically get three specialist level certs. In my opinion this totally devalues the specialist level certs. They should be something that takes specific specialised skill and knowledge to attain, not something you get for free as part of the process of attaining an intermediate level professional qualification. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CITPSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc (Putting flame proof clothing on) Joshua Green wrote: Anyone else hear about the new CCSP cert that Cisco is offering?! It's about time! Although I wish some of the other Professional level certs would count towards it in some way... I also like the three new Specialist level certs! Thank you, Joshua Green; MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] CityScape Communications 2040 Timberbrooke Drive Springfield, IL 62702 (217) 793.6238 x18 (217) 793.6275 fax (217) 306.6201 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58094t=57713 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCSP [7:57713]
I disagree. CCSP fits in the Cisco Professional Certification scheme much better than CSS1. Also for your additional SAFE exam you geta 3 year cert instead of a 2 year. Looks to me like CSS1 was a proving ground for Cisco before going ahead with a mainline cert like CCSP. I have one more test to complete to get my CSS1. I plan to get it and then go for the SAFE exam to get the CCSP cert. I think the CCSP cert will be much more accepted than the CSS1 has been. Cisco's new redisign of it's testing base is a welcome change. Technology is always changing and the Certification Exams should reflect this. Thank You, Leslie McIntosh Sr. Network Engineer Deloitte Touche Outsourcing -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tue 11/26/2002 2:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713] Hi, I can't agree more. I won't bother taking another cisco exam that doesn't provide any clear value. CSS-1 has not been widely recognized, and yet it is slated to be retired. I won't expect much coming from CCSP and the three other security cert. I am beginning to have a negative bias on Cisco exams that shortlived or frequently changed as a mean to revenue-earning .. Regards, Leonard Ong, CISSP, CSS-1, CCSE+, CCMSE CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, MCDBA, LCP Network Security Specialist, APAC NOKIA Email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile. +65 9431 6184 Phone. +65 6723 1724 Fax.+65 6723 1596 -Original Message- From: ext Godswill HO [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713] If you take one of the 3 specialized courses plus MCNS exam, you become a Specialist in that area eg 1. CSPFA+MCNS = Firewall Specialist 2. CSVPN+MCNS = VPN specialist 3. IDSPM+MCNS = IDS Specialsit For a Limited time more: CSPFA+CSVPN+IDSPM+MCNS = CSS1 Also CSPFA+CSVPN+IDSPM+MCNS+SAFE= CCSP From now till 09/03 People like my humble self who already have the CSS1 designation would need take only the SAFE exam to become CCSP. I did not see any true meaning to all these. Cisco should know better. my 0.02 Regards Godswill CCNP,CCDP,CSS1 (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) --- Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote: Nevermind - sometime earlier they enabled the links... -Original Message- From: Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713] Good Info! I tried following the link for those new Specialist certs on Cisco's site, but the link is broken - are Specialists defined now by completing only the individual exams? (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) -Original Message- From: Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCSP [7:57713] Joshua The CCSP is basically just a realignment of the current Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification into the Cisco Professional track. It does add one more exam to the requirements but other than that no real change. Cisco has even 'generously' allowed current CSS1s to take the remaining exam to get the cert. :-) As for the new specialist level certs, they are just dumbed down ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H more focussed variations of the CSS1. I really dont think Cisco have thought this one through as anyone who attains CCSP (with the current versions of the exams), will also automatically get three specialist level certs. In my opinion this totally devalues the specialist level certs. They should be something that takes specific specialised skill and knowledge to attain, not something you get for free as part of the process of attaining an intermediate level professional qualification. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CITPSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc (Putting flame proof clothing on) Joshua Green wrote: Anyone else hear about the new CCSP cert that Cisco is offering?! It's about time! Although I wish some of the other Professional level certs would count towards it in some way... I also like the three new Specialist level certs! Thank you, Joshua Green; MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] CityScape Communications 2040 Timberbrooke Drive Springfield, IL 62702 (217) 793.6238 x18 (217) 793.6275 fax (217) 306.6201 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com i=58094t=57713 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure
RE: CCSP [7:57713]
If you take one of the 3 specialized courses plus MCNS exam, you become a Specialist in that area eg 1. CSPFA+MCNS = Firewall Specialist 2. CSVPN+MCNS = VPN specialist 3. IDSPM+MCNS = IDS Specialsit For a Limited time more: CSPFA+CSVPN+IDSPM+MCNS = CSS1 Also CSPFA+CSVPN+IDSPM+MCNS+SAFE= CCSP From now till 09/03 People like my humble self who already have the CSS1 designation would need take only the SAFE exam to become CCSP. I did not see any true meaning to all these. Cisco should know better. my 0.02 Regards Godswill CCNP,CCDP,CSS1 (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) --- Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote: Nevermind - sometime earlier they enabled the links... -Original Message- From: Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713] Good Info! I tried following the link for those new Specialist certs on Cisco's site, but the link is broken - are Specialists defined now by completing only the individual exams? (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) -Original Message- From: Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCSP [7:57713] Joshua The CCSP is basically just a realignment of the current Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification into the Cisco Professional track. It does add one more exam to the requirements but other than that no real change. Cisco has even 'generously' allowed current CSS1s to take the remaining exam to get the cert. :-) As for the new specialist level certs, they are just dumbed down ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H more focussed variations of the CSS1. I really dont think Cisco have thought this one through as anyone who attains CCSP (with the current versions of the exams), will also automatically get three specialist level certs. In my opinion this totally devalues the specialist level certs. They should be something that takes specific specialised skill and knowledge to attain, not something you get for free as part of the process of attaining an intermediate level professional qualification. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CITPSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc (Putting flame proof clothing on) Joshua Green wrote: Anyone else hear about the new CCSP cert that Cisco is offering?! It's about time! Although I wish some of the other Professional level certs would count towards it in some way... I also like the three new Specialist level certs! Thank you, Joshua Green; MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] CityScape Communications 2040 Timberbrooke Drive Springfield, IL 62702 (217) 793.6238 x18 (217) 793.6275 fax (217) 306.6201 cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57766t=57713 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCSP [7:57713]
Joshua The CCSP is basically just a realignment of the current Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification into the Cisco Professional track. It does add one more exam to the requirements but other than that no real change. Cisco has even 'generously' allowed current CSS1s to take the remaining exam to get the cert. :-) As for the new specialist level certs, they are just dumbed down ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H more focussed variations of the CSS1. I really dont think Cisco have thought this one through as anyone who attains CCSP (with the current versions of the exams), will also automatically get three specialist level certs. In my opinion this totally devalues the specialist level certs. They should be something that takes specific specialised skill and knowledge to attain, not something you get for free as part of the process of attaining an intermediate level professional qualification. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CITPSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc (Putting flame proof clothing on) Joshua Green wrote: Anyone else hear about the new CCSP cert that Cisco is offering?! It's about time! Although I wish some of the other Professional level certs would count towards it in some way... I also like the three new Specialist level certs! Thank you, Joshua Green; MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] CityScape Communications 2040 Timberbrooke Drive Springfield, IL 62702 (217) 793.6238 x18 (217) 793.6275 fax (217) 306.6201 cell Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57726t=57713 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCSP [7:57713]
Good Info! I tried following the link for those new Specialist certs on Cisco's site, but the link is broken - are Specialists defined now by completing only the individual exams? (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) -Original Message- From: Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCSP [7:57713] Joshua The CCSP is basically just a realignment of the current Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification into the Cisco Professional track. It does add one more exam to the requirements but other than that no real change. Cisco has even 'generously' allowed current CSS1s to take the remaining exam to get the cert. :-) As for the new specialist level certs, they are just dumbed down ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H more focussed variations of the CSS1. I really dont think Cisco have thought this one through as anyone who attains CCSP (with the current versions of the exams), will also automatically get three specialist level certs. In my opinion this totally devalues the specialist level certs. They should be something that takes specific specialised skill and knowledge to attain, not something you get for free as part of the process of attaining an intermediate level professional qualification. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CITPSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc (Putting flame proof clothing on) Joshua Green wrote: Anyone else hear about the new CCSP cert that Cisco is offering?! It's about time! Although I wish some of the other Professional level certs would count towards it in some way... I also like the three new Specialist level certs! Thank you, Joshua Green; MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] CityScape Communications 2040 Timberbrooke Drive Springfield, IL 62702 (217) 793.6238 x18 (217) 793.6275 fax (217) 306.6201 cell Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57727t=57713 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCSP [7:57713]
Nevermind - sometime earlier they enabled the links... -Original Message- From: Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713] Good Info! I tried following the link for those new Specialist certs on Cisco's site, but the link is broken - are Specialists defined now by completing only the individual exams? (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) -Original Message- From: Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCSP [7:57713] Joshua The CCSP is basically just a realignment of the current Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification into the Cisco Professional track. It does add one more exam to the requirements but other than that no real change. Cisco has even 'generously' allowed current CSS1s to take the remaining exam to get the cert. :-) As for the new specialist level certs, they are just dumbed down ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H more focussed variations of the CSS1. I really dont think Cisco have thought this one through as anyone who attains CCSP (with the current versions of the exams), will also automatically get three specialist level certs. In my opinion this totally devalues the specialist level certs. They should be something that takes specific specialised skill and knowledge to attain, not something you get for free as part of the process of attaining an intermediate level professional qualification. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CITPSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc (Putting flame proof clothing on) Joshua Green wrote: Anyone else hear about the new CCSP cert that Cisco is offering?! It's about time! Although I wish some of the other Professional level certs would count towards it in some way... I also like the three new Specialist level certs! Thank you, Joshua Green; MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] CityScape Communications 2040 Timberbrooke Drive Springfield, IL 62702 (217) 793.6238 x18 (217) 793.6275 fax (217) 306.6201 cell Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57728t=57713 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCSP [7:57713]
Bill To gain the new specialist certs you need MCNS plus the current relevent exam (CSPFA, CSVPN or CSIDS). To gain the CCSP you need to pass MCNS, CSPFA, CSVPN, CSIDS and the new SAFE exam. Peter Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 wrote: Good Info! I tried following the link for those new Specialist certs on Cisco's site, but the link is broken - are Specialists defined now by completing only the individual exams? (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) -Original Message- From: Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCSP [7:57713] Joshua The CCSP is basically just a realignment of the current Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification into the Cisco Professional track. It does add one more exam to the requirements but other than that no real change. Cisco has even 'generously' allowed current CSS1s to take the remaining exam to get the cert. :-) As for the new specialist level certs, they are just dumbed down ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H more focussed variations of the CSS1. I really dont think Cisco have thought this one through as anyone who attains CCSP (with the current versions of the exams), will also automatically get three specialist level certs. In my opinion this totally devalues the specialist level certs. They should be something that takes specific specialised skill and knowledge to attain, not something you get for free as part of the process of attaining an intermediate level professional qualification. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CITPSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc (Putting flame proof clothing on) Joshua Green wrote: Anyone else hear about the new CCSP cert that Cisco is offering?! It's about time! Although I wish some of the other Professional level certs would count towards it in some way... I also like the three new Specialist level certs! Thank you, Joshua Green; MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] CityScape Communications 2040 Timberbrooke Drive Springfield, IL 62702 (217) 793.6238 x18 (217) 793.6275 fax (217) 306.6201 cell Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57733t=57713 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCSP [7:57713]
For those who havent already seen the announcement. Original Message Subject: New Cisco Certified Security Professional Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:01:39 -0500 (EST) From: Cisco Systems Inc Every organization has data, facilities, and workflow processes that are mission critical to their success. As more organizations make greater use of the Internet, it becomes critical that businesses defend their networks against attacks. Productivity gains and returns on company investments are at risk if the network is not defended. Cisco protects business from end to end, enabling business growth and increased productivity. Unlike point security products that leave vulnerable gaps, comprehensive solutions from Cisco embed integrated, layered security throughout your entire network to tie separate technologies and applications into a single, secure whole. Together with responsive, qualified partners, Cisco provides the components and training to build and maintain an effective security system that can safeguard your company's ability to generate revenue. Regardless of the size of your business, Cisco network security products and Cisco IOS(r) Software help keep your network secure. To help meet your needs, on November 19, 2002, Cisco will announce the new Cisco Certified Security Professional (CCSP) and three new security Cisco Qualified Specialists the Cisco Firewall Specialist, the Cisco VPN Specialist, and the Cisco IDS Specialist. Cisco is launching this new professional level security certification in response to the heightened need for knowledgeable network professionals who can design, build, and implement complete end-to-end security solutions coupled with an industry demand to provide a certification career path in the IT security market. This new certification provides an individual with professional level recognition in designing and implementing Cisco Secure networks. To become a Cisco Certified Security Professional (CCSP) you need to hold a valid CCNA(r) certification and complete and pass the following exams: Exam Recommended training 9E0-571 CSPFA or 9E0-111 CSPFA Cisco Secure Firewall Advanced (CSPFA) 2.1 Cisco Secure Firewall Advanced (CSPFA) 3.0 9E0-570 CSVPN or 9E0-121 CSVPN Cisco Secure Virtual Private Networks (CSVPN ) 2.0 Cisco Secure Virtual Private Networks (CSVPN ) 3.0 640-442 MCNS or 640-100 MCNS Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 2.0 Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 3.0 9E0-572 IDSPM or 9E0-100 CSIDS Cisco Secure Intrusion Detection System (CSIDS) 2.1 Cisco Secure Intrusion Detection System (CSIDS) 3.0 9E0-131 CSI Cisco SAFE Implementation (CSI) 1.0 The recommended training to prepare for the Cisco Certified Security Professional (CCSP) certification is offered through the global network of authorized Cisco Learning Partners. Now until September 30, 2003, individuals who currently hold the Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification can upgrade their certification to become a Cisco Certified Security Professional (CCSP) by taking one new exam, Cisco SAFE Implementation (CSI 9EO-131). Candidates with Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification have already demonstrated their knowledge of firewalls, intrusion detection systems, and virtual private networks. Therefore, if they maintain their CCNA status and pass this additional exam, they can become a Cisco Certified Security Professional (CCSP). Like other professional level Cisco certifications, the Cisco Certified Security Professional is valid for three years. New Cisco Qualified Specialists for Firewall, VPN, and IDS The three new Cisco Qualified Specialists are being launched to address the needs of individuals who want to validate skills in specific areas of network security. These individuals most likely work in organizations that have installed or are about to install Cisco security products. To earn the new focused certifications, you need to hold a valid CCNA certification and complete and pass the following exams: Focused Certification Exam Recommended training Cisco Firewall Specialist 640-100 MCNS and 9E0-111 CSPFA Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 3.0 Cisco Secure PIX(r) Firewall Advanced (CSPFA) 3.0 Cisco VPN Specialist 640-100 MCNS and 9E0-121 CSVPN Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 3.0 Cisco Secure Virtual Private Networks (CSVPN ) 3.0 Cisco IDS Specialist 640-100 MCNS and 9E0-100 CSIDS Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 3.0 Cisco Secure Intrusion Detection System (CSIDS) 3.0 Individuals can still earn the Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification until February 28, 2003. After that date, this focused certification will no longer be offered. For those who have already earned the Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification, the certification remains valid until two years from date of achievement. Like all other focused Cisco certifications, all three new Cisco Security Specialist certifications are valid for two
RE: CCSP [7:57713]
Yes, along with 640-100 (MCNS) Thank you, Joshua Green; MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] CityScape Communications 2040 Timberbrooke Drive Springfield, IL 62702 (217) 793.6238 x18 (217) 793.6275 fax (217) 306.6201 cell -Original Message- From: Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713] Good Info! I tried following the link for those new Specialist certs on Cisco's site, but the link is broken - are Specialists defined now by completing only the individual exams? (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for VPN, and CSIDS for IDS) -Original Message- From: Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCSP [7:57713] Joshua The CCSP is basically just a realignment of the current Cisco Security Specialist 1 certification into the Cisco Professional track. It does add one more exam to the requirements but other than that no real change. Cisco has even 'generously' allowed current CSS1s to take the remaining exam to get the cert. :-) As for the new specialist level certs, they are just dumbed down ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H more focussed variations of the CSS1. I really dont think Cisco have thought this one through as anyone who attains CCSP (with the current versions of the exams), will also automatically get three specialist level certs. In my opinion this totally devalues the specialist level certs. They should be something that takes specific specialised skill and knowledge to attain, not something you get for free as part of the process of attaining an intermediate level professional qualification. Peter Walker CISSP, CSS1, CITPSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc (Putting flame proof clothing on) Joshua Green wrote: Anyone else hear about the new CCSP cert that Cisco is offering?! It's about time! Although I wish some of the other Professional level certs would count towards it in some way... I also like the three new Specialist level certs! Thank you, Joshua Green; MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] CityScape Communications 2040 Timberbrooke Drive Springfield, IL 62702 (217) 793.6238 x18 (217) 793.6275 fax (217) 306.6201 cell Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57735t=57713 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
