Re: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!

2000-11-01 Thread Brian W.

Oh this rocks, my isp focused resume looks a little better now..

Brian

On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Kevin Wigle wrote:

> further down the page, if you can wait until 1 Feb 2001, Appletalk will also
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> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html
> >
> > 4. Routing & Switching Lab Exam
> >
> > [Deleted]
> >
> > IOS Versions
> >
> > IOS features up to and including version 12.0 will be tested on the
> > exam.
> >
> >
> > Exam Content
> >
> > Effective immediately, the following topics have been removed from the
> > lab exam content:
> >
> > - LAT
> > - DECnet
> > - Apollo
> > - Banyan VINES
> > - ISO CLNS
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RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now! Shelve ATM studies?

2000-10-31 Thread Louie Belt

Shelve ATM Lane, do not shelve ATM PVC, SVC, Classical IP or MPOA.  They
still exist on the exam.

Louie

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conceive of the source of wealth or of the motivation of those who produce
it.
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studies?


Hi all

Should I shelve ATM studies?

I was right on the edge of starting a study of ATM.  I even have ATM
switches, LANE modules. Is this worth pursuing or is this "icebox about to
be superceded by something else".  The assumption is time is not elastic,
that we could put our energies into something else - sleep, family, things
normal people do.



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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Perry Lucas wrote:

> I don't know, I can see the need to take things off like Apollo, Vines,
> DECNet, etc.  But ATM Lane?  I would believe there are still a lot of ATM
> installations out there.  I could be wrong though.

Perhaps they felt it belonged more on the CCIE WAN lab.

>
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>
> > - ATM LANE
>
> Wow!
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RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now! Shelve ATM studies?

2000-10-31 Thread Craig Johnson

This is very cool, IMHO.  I have always been a little fuzzy on LANE, and my
Decnet knowledge isn't where it should be. (I take the Lab on December 13 in
San Jose).  It's also good to know that if I happen to fail the first time,
I can wait until after February and not worry about Appletalk (even though
my appletalk knowledge is very good).  For those who haven't seen the page,
here is an excerpt:

Effective immediately, the following topics have been removed from the lab
exam content:

LAT
DECnet
Apollo
Banyan VINES
ISO CLNS
XNS
ATM LANE
X.25

Effective February 1, 2001, the following topic will be removed from the lab
exam content:

Appletalk

 NOTE: These changes only affect the Routing and Switching Lab exam.
Some of the test topics may continue to appear on the Routing and Switching
Written exam.  Readers are advised to consult the Content Blueprint for the
Routing and Switching Written exam for a detailed list of topics tested on
the written exam.


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Hi all

Should I shelve ATM studies?

I was right on the edge of starting a study of ATM.  I even have ATM
switches, LANE modules. Is this worth pursuing or is this "icebox about to
be superceded by something else".  The assumption is time is not elastic,
that we could put our energies into something else - sleep, family, things
normal people do.



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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Perry Lucas wrote:

> I don't know, I can see the need to take things off like Apollo, Vines,
> DECNet, etc.  But ATM Lane?  I would believe there are still a lot of ATM
> installations out there.  I could be wrong though.

Perhaps they felt it belonged more on the CCIE WAN lab.

>
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> Irwin Lazar
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:30 PM
> To: 'GEM'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> > - ATM LANE
>
> Wow!
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RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now! Shelve ATMstudies?

2000-10-31 Thread Brian

On Tue, 31 Oct 2000, Craig Jensen wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Should I shelve ATM studies?

They said ATM LANE, not ATM.  VPI/VPC, etc, could still be on the lab (I
would think).

> 
> I was right on the edge of starting a study of ATM.  I even have ATM
> switches, LANE modules. Is this worth pursuing or is this "icebox about to
> be superceded by something else".  The assumption is time is not elastic,
> that we could put our energies into something else - sleep, family, things
> normal people do.

I am sure glad I didn't invest in expensive ATM LANE gear :)

> 
> 
> 
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> Brian
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:33 PM
> To: Perry Lucas
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!
> 
> 
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Perry Lucas wrote:
> 
> > I don't know, I can see the need to take things off like Apollo, Vines,
> > DECNet, etc.  But ATM Lane?  I would believe there are still a lot of ATM
> > installations out there.  I could be wrong though.
> 
> Perhaps they felt it belonged more on the CCIE WAN lab.
> 
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Irwin Lazar
> > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:30 PM
> > To: 'GEM'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!
> >
> >
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> >
> > Wow!
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RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!

2000-10-31 Thread Chuck Church

Based on the amount of voice/multiservice on the written, it looks like
AVVID will be plentiful on the lab.  That, and the fact that Cisco wants us,
as a reseller, to really push IP telephony.  I just hope this doesn't make
the CCIE "easier" to obtain.  I'd rather have to take it twice than having
it become easy enough so that most people pass it the first time.  My MCSE
(which I got in '96 when it was harder) is so easy to get these days, it's
ridiculous.  (Please no flames from those who just got their MCSEs)  I'd
just rather see it remain the high-paying, hard to obtain cert that it is.

Just my .02,

Chuck Church
CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
Sr. Network Engineer
Magnacom Technologies
140 N. Rt. 303
Valley Cottage, NY 10989
845-267-4000 x218

>Hello,

>That is pretty nice for the new folks to Internetworking like myself.  I
>just passed the CCIE written a few days ago and am about to schedule my lab
>date.  I wonder what kind of configs we will see on the lab to replace the
>waning technologies.  

>I guess in retrospect this is both good and bad.  Good in the fact that
>Cisco is keeping up with all the new technologies but bad because the study
>materials and equipment to setup and practice for things like VOIP and
AVVID
>are not easily accessible.

>I guess we cannot have our cake and eat it too :(

>Hunter Dorroh
>MCSE, CCNP, CCDP

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RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now! Shelve ATM studies?

2000-10-31 Thread Craig Jensen

Hi all

Should I shelve ATM studies?

I was right on the edge of starting a study of ATM.  I even have ATM
switches, LANE modules. Is this worth pursuing or is this "icebox about to
be superceded by something else".  The assumption is time is not elastic,
that we could put our energies into something else - sleep, family, things
normal people do.



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Brian
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:33 PM
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Perry Lucas wrote:

> I don't know, I can see the need to take things off like Apollo, Vines,
> DECNet, etc.  But ATM Lane?  I would believe there are still a lot of ATM
> installations out there.  I could be wrong though.

Perhaps they felt it belonged more on the CCIE WAN lab.

>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Irwin Lazar
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:30 PM
> To: 'GEM'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> > - ATM LANE
>
> Wow!
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RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!

2000-10-30 Thread Brian

On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Perry Lucas wrote:

> I don't know, I can see the need to take things off like Apollo, Vines,
> DECNet, etc.  But ATM Lane?  I would believe there are still a lot of ATM
> installations out there.  I could be wrong though.

Perhaps they felt it belonged more on the CCIE WAN lab.

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Irwin Lazar
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:30 PM
> To: 'GEM'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!
> 
> 
> > - ATM LANE
> 
> Wow!
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RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!

2000-10-30 Thread Perry Lucas

I don't know, I can see the need to take things off like Apollo, Vines,
DECNet, etc.  But ATM Lane?  I would believe there are still a lot of ATM
installations out there.  I could be wrong though.

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> - ATM LANE

Wow!

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RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!

2000-10-30 Thread Irwin Lazar

> - ATM LANE 

Wow!

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RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!

2000-10-30 Thread Dorroh, Hunter

Hello,

That is pretty nice for the new folks to Internetworking like myself.  I
just passed the CCIE written a few days ago and am about to schedule my lab
date.  I wonder what kind of configs we will see on the lab to replace the
waning technologies.  

I guess in retrospect this is both good and bad.  Good in the fact that
Cisco is keeping up with all the new technologies but bad because the study
materials and equipment to setup and practice for things like VOIP and AVVID
are not easily accessible.

I guess we cannot have our cake and eat it too :(

Hunter Dorroh
MCSE, CCNP, CCDP

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Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 7:51 PM
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further down the page, if you can wait until 1 Feb 2001, Appletalk will also
be deleted!

Kevin Wigle

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Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2000 18:09
Subject: RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!


>
> HOT DAWG!
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GEM
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 2:41 PM
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>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html
>
> 4. Routing & Switching Lab Exam
>
> [Deleted]
>
> IOS Versions
>
> IOS features up to and including version 12.0 will be tested on the
> exam.
>
>
> Exam Content
>
> Effective immediately, the following topics have been removed from the
> lab exam content:
>
> - LAT
> - DECnet
> - Apollo
> - Banyan VINES
> - ISO CLNS
> - XNS
> - ATM LANE
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Re: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!

2000-10-30 Thread Kevin Wigle

further down the page, if you can wait until 1 Feb 2001, Appletalk will also
be deleted!

Kevin Wigle

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Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2000 18:09
Subject: RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!


>
> HOT DAWG!
>
> -Original Message-
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GEM
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 2:41 PM
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>
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html
>
> 4. Routing & Switching Lab Exam
>
> [Deleted]
>
> IOS Versions
>
> IOS features up to and including version 12.0 will be tested on the
> exam.
>
>
> Exam Content
>
> Effective immediately, the following topics have been removed from the
> lab exam content:
>
> - LAT
> - DECnet
> - Apollo
> - Banyan VINES
> - ISO CLNS
> - XNS
> - ATM LANE
> - X.25
>
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RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!

2000-10-30 Thread Frank Wells

That is good news but begs the question "So what technologies are they going 
to replace them with?"


>From: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:09:02 -0800
>
>
>HOT DAWG!
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>Sent:  Monday, October 30, 2000 2:41 PM
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>
>
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html
>
>4. Routing & Switching Lab Exam
>
>[Deleted]
>
>IOS Versions
>
>IOS features up to and including version 12.0 will be tested on the
>exam.
>
>
>Exam Content
>
>Effective immediately, the following topics have been removed from the
>lab exam content:
>
>- LAT
>- DECnet
>- Apollo
>- Banyan VINES
>- ISO CLNS
>- XNS
>- ATM LANE
>- X.25
>
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RE: Check what's new on CCIE R/S Webpage, right now!

2000-10-30 Thread Chuck Larrieu


HOT DAWG!

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http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/routing.html

4. Routing & Switching Lab Exam

[Deleted]

IOS Versions

IOS features up to and including version 12.0 will be tested on the
exam.


Exam Content

Effective immediately, the following topics have been removed from the
lab exam content:

- LAT
- DECnet
- Apollo
- Banyan VINES
- ISO CLNS
- XNS
- ATM LANE
- X.25


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