MOSPF (was RE: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]

2003-02-06 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 9:55 PM + 2/6/03, David C Prall wrote:
>  > I think I can answer this one without violating NDA.  MOSPF is not
>>  covered in the lab because Cisco has chosen not to support MOSPF in
>>  IOS. Surely you would agree that it is not easy to test something in
>>  the lab that is not actually supported within Cisco gear.To
>>  digress, I am not aware of a single mainstream vendor that currently
>>  supports MOSPF (if anybody knows of one, I would like to hear it).
>>
>
>Be careful what you wish for, there are commands related to MOSPF
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr
>_c/ipcprt2/1cfospf.htm#1001605
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But this command is only to ignore MOSPF.

The only commercial implementation I knew of was Proteon's, although 
it might be in some versions of GateD. The only place I ever saw it 
used was in some relatively small NASA control center applications.




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Re: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]

2003-02-06 Thread The Long and Winding Road
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> Hello,
> Is DVMRP covered at all in the new CCIE Lab?
> Any other new/odd topics? Ex. MRM or PGM??
> Thank you.


on a more serious note, suppose you were asked to connect one of the routers
in your pod to a DVMRP source. Do you know where you would look to find the
commands?

this gets back to having spent some time reading the documentation - the
config guides and command references, just to get a feel for what's there
and where to find it.

I can guarantee that you will see at least one task in your lab that you
have never heard of before, at least not if you haven't spend some time
familiarizing yourself with what is in the docs.

focus on the core topics - you know what they are. And also become familiar
with the doc CD. You can pick up a couple of easy points if you have an idea
where to look. I did. For all the good it did me :- Sincerely,
> CN
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Re: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]

2003-02-06 Thread nrf
""David C Prall""  wrote in message
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> > I think I can answer this one without violating NDA.  MOSPF is not
> > covered in the lab because Cisco has chosen not to support MOSPF in
> > IOS. Surely you would agree that it is not easy to test something in
> > the lab that is not actually supported within Cisco gear.To
> > digress, I am not aware of a single mainstream vendor that currently
> > supports MOSPF (if anybody knows of one, I would like to hear it).
> >
>
> Be careful what you wish for, there are commands related to MOSPF
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr
> _c/ipcprt2/1cfospf.htm#1001605

I knew somebody was going to come back with that.

To reiterate, the ability to ignore MOSPF LSA's is clearly not the same as
actually supporting MOSPF.   Supporting MOSPF means, well, the ability to
actually run MOSPF - i.e. the ability to actually build an mroute table from
type6 LSA's.

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RE: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]

2003-02-06 Thread David C Prall
> I think I can answer this one without violating NDA.  MOSPF is not
> covered in the lab because Cisco has chosen not to support MOSPF in
> IOS. Surely you would agree that it is not easy to test something in
> the lab that is not actually supported within Cisco gear.To
> digress, I am not aware of a single mainstream vendor that currently
> supports MOSPF (if anybody knows of one, I would like to hear it).
>

Be careful what you wish for, there are commands related to MOSPF
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr
_c/ipcprt2/1cfospf.htm#1001605

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Re: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]

2003-02-06 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""Cisco Nuts""  wrote in message
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> Hello,
> Is DVMRP covered at all in the new CCIE Lab?
> Any other new/odd topics? Ex. MRM or PGM??


I'm just dying to talk about some things I did NOT see in the Lab my last
trip through. I was quite surprised.

Having said that, I'm sure the proctors or their spies will make sure I get
totally screwed next time through. ;->

I can see it now. Apollo. Vines. ISO IGRP :O




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Re: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]

2003-02-06 Thread nrf
""Cisco Nuts""  wrote in message
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> Ooops!! It should be my pant ;->
>
> I did not mean anyone to violate the dreaded NDA.
>
> My question should have read: is DVMRP a  part of the CCIE topics for the
> Lab?
>
> The reason is that I see a lot of DVMRP material in the cmd. and config.
> guide but not on other topics MOSPF etc.

I think I can answer this one without violating NDA.  MOSPF is not covered
in the lab because Cisco has chosen not to support MOSPF in IOS.  Surely you
would agree that it is not easy to test something in the lab that is not
actually supported within Cisco gear.To digress, I am not aware of a
single mainstream vendor that currently supports MOSPF (if anybody knows of
one, I would like to hear it).

Other than that, anything within Cisco gear that is actually supported is
fair game.

>
> I guess, then I will have to cover it in my studies for the Lab.
>
> Thank you, George for clarifying that!!!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> CN
>
>
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>
>
> >From: "Kaminski, Shawn G"
> >Reply-To: "Kaminski, Shawn G"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]
> >Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:26:04 GMT
> >
> >Uh oh. Someone on this list probably pooped their pants after reading
CN's
> >message because of the NDA. :-)
> >
> >Probably the most you'll get out of anyone is that it is possible that
> >DVMRP
> >is covered in the new CCIE lab because anything is fair game. Since the
> >Cisco IOS software supports PIM-to-DVMRP interaction, there is a chance
> >you'll see it depending on the lab you get.
> >
> >Shawn K.
> >
> >-Original Message-
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> >Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:40 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]
> >
> >Hello,
> >Is DVMRP covered at all in the new CCIE Lab?
> >Any other new/odd topics? Ex. MRM or PGM??
> >Thank you.
> >Sincerely,
> >CN
> >
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RE: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]

2003-02-06 Thread Cisco Nuts
Ooops!! It should be my pant ;->

I did not mean anyone to violate the dreaded NDA.

My question should have read: is DVMRP a  part of the CCIE topics for the 
Lab?

The reason is that I see a lot of DVMRP material in the cmd. and config. 
guide but not on other topics MOSPF etc.

I guess, then I will have to cover it in my studies for the Lab.

Thank you, George for clarifying that!!!

Sincerely,

CN








>From: "Kaminski, Shawn G" 
>Reply-To: "Kaminski, Shawn G" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]
>Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:26:04 GMT
>
>Uh oh. Someone on this list probably pooped their pants after reading CN's
>message because of the NDA. :-)
>
>Probably the most you'll get out of anyone is that it is possible that 
>DVMRP
>is covered in the new CCIE lab because anything is fair game. Since the
>Cisco IOS software supports PIM-to-DVMRP interaction, there is a chance
>you'll see it depending on the lab you get.
>
>Shawn K.
>
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]
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>Hello,
>Is DVMRP covered at all in the new CCIE Lab?
>Any other new/odd topics? Ex. MRM or PGM??
>Thank you.
>Sincerely,
>CN
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RE: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]

2003-02-06 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
Uh oh. Someone on this list probably pooped their pants after reading CN's
message because of the NDA. :-)

Probably the most you'll get out of anyone is that it is possible that DVMRP
is covered in the new CCIE lab because anything is fair game. Since the
Cisco IOS software supports PIM-to-DVMRP interaction, there is a chance
you'll see it depending on the lab you get.

Shawn K. 

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Subject: DVMRP in the CCIE Lab - ??? [7:62585]

Hello,
Is DVMRP covered at all in the new CCIE Lab?
Any other new/odd topics? Ex. MRM or PGM??
Thank you.
Sincerely,
CN





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