Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]

2001-08-01 Thread Michael L. Williams

That's the config I use as well.  However, (and I'm not flaming you) that is
not what I was speaking of, nor what what I believe this gentleperson was
asking about.  The original poster said "I want to have a second switch with
a copy of the primary's configuration and take over automatically once the
primary fails".  I was speculating on a way to have two completely separate
chassis (switches/MSFCs) create a "mirror" and have one that sits in standby
while the other is active.  What you have there is 2 MSFCs using HSRP with
VLANs load balanced across them.  As I said in my eariler post, "Unless you
have the end devices connected to both switches, you're screwed".  You have
end devices (your servers) connected to both switches, which is the *only*
way this HSRP setup will provide complete redundancy (actually, it's not the
HSRP that provides it, but the fact that your end devices are connected to
both switches that provides that real redundancy).

Mike W.

"Perry J. Lucas"  wrote in message
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> Yes it is possible here.  Here is a sample configuration that I have
> running on a pair of Cat6509 with Sup2 MSFC2:
>
> Switch One
> --
> interface Vlan340
>  ip address 10.120.4.3 255.255.255.0
>  no ip redirects
>  standby 34 priority 99 preempt
>  standby 34 ip 10.120.4.1
>
> interface Vlan350
>  ip address 10.120.5.2 255.255.255.0
>  no ip redirects
>  standby 35 preempt
>  standby 35 ip 10.120.5.1
>
> Switch Two
> --
> interface Vlan340
>  ip address 10.120.4.2 255.255.255.0
>  no ip redirects
>  standby 34 preempt
>  standby 34 ip 10.120.4.1
>
> interface Vlan350
>  ip address 10.120.5.3 255.255.255.0
>  no ip redirects
>  standby 35 priority 99 preempt
>  standby 35 ip 10.120.5.1
>
>
>
> For layer two configuration, I have the gigabit ports on the sup
> connected as ISL trunks with backbone fast.  Servers are dual niced into
> each chassis.
>
> Perry J. Lucas
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:39 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]
>
>
> This is possible with 2 sups in the same chassis, however, if you have
> two separate chassis with their own Sups, then I don't think it's
> possible to have one act as a "mirror" for the other.  You could
> configure the RSMs (MSFC's, whatever) with HSRP, but that wouldn't do
> what you said you wanted. Even with HSRP, the "other" interfaces on each
> RSM would need to be configured with their own IPs, etc, thus not
> satisfying your requirement to have "a second switch with a copy of the
> primary's configuration".  Unless you have the end devices connected to
> both switches, your screwed anyway if a sup dies (unless you have a
> redundant sup installed in which case you're not utilizing the "other"
> switch).
>
> I do not believe that what you're looking for is possible with to
> completely separate switches like that.
>
> Mike W.
>
> "Jason Kinney"  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I want to protect from a total failure in the switch such as sup, loss
>
> > of power (if UPS and redundant PS is not present), etc.
> >
> > I am not trying to failover an interface (spanning tree)
> >
> > I want to have a second switch with a copy of the primary's
> > configuration and take over automatically once the primary fails.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>
> > Patrick Ramsey
> > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 8:09 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]
> >
> >
> > Maybe I am confused
> >
> > If yo uwant redundant switches, you would implement spanning tree...
> > This
> is
> > at layer two...not three, where routing takes place.
> >
> > Now if you mean using it on say a cat 6509 with a routing module, then
>
> > yes you can implement it.  But it would still be at layer three and
> > not two. You would not create redundant switches.  Again, this is
> > where spanning
> tree
> > comes into play.
> >
> > -Patrick
> >
> > >>> "Spencer Plantier"  07/30/01 10:39AM >>>
> > yes you can
> >
> > --- Jason Kinney  wrote:
> > > Can you use HSRP to backup a switch as you would a
>

RE: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]

2001-08-01 Thread Perry J. Lucas

Yes it is possible here.  Here is a sample configuration that I have
running on a pair of Cat6509 with Sup2 MSFC2:

Switch One
--
interface Vlan340
 ip address 10.120.4.3 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 standby 34 priority 99 preempt
 standby 34 ip 10.120.4.1

interface Vlan350
 ip address 10.120.5.2 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 standby 35 preempt
 standby 35 ip 10.120.5.1

Switch Two
--
interface Vlan340
 ip address 10.120.4.2 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 standby 34 preempt
 standby 34 ip 10.120.4.1

interface Vlan350
 ip address 10.120.5.3 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 standby 35 priority 99 preempt
 standby 35 ip 10.120.5.1



For layer two configuration, I have the gigabit ports on the sup
connected as ISL trunks with backbone fast.  Servers are dual niced into
each chassis.

Perry J. Lucas



-Original Message-
From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 8:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]


This is possible with 2 sups in the same chassis, however, if you have
two separate chassis with their own Sups, then I don't think it's
possible to have one act as a "mirror" for the other.  You could
configure the RSMs (MSFC's, whatever) with HSRP, but that wouldn't do
what you said you wanted. Even with HSRP, the "other" interfaces on each
RSM would need to be configured with their own IPs, etc, thus not
satisfying your requirement to have "a second switch with a copy of the
primary's configuration".  Unless you have the end devices connected to
both switches, your screwed anyway if a sup dies (unless you have a
redundant sup installed in which case you're not utilizing the "other"
switch).

I do not believe that what you're looking for is possible with to
completely separate switches like that.

Mike W.

"Jason Kinney"  wrote in message
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> I want to protect from a total failure in the switch such as sup, loss

> of power (if UPS and redundant PS is not present), etc.
>
> I am not trying to failover an interface (spanning tree)
>
> I want to have a second switch with a copy of the primary's 
> configuration and take over automatically once the primary fails.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of

> Patrick Ramsey
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 8:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]
>
>
> Maybe I am confused
>
> If yo uwant redundant switches, you would implement spanning tree... 
> This
is
> at layer two...not three, where routing takes place.
>
> Now if you mean using it on say a cat 6509 with a routing module, then

> yes you can implement it.  But it would still be at layer three and 
> not two. You would not create redundant switches.  Again, this is 
> where spanning
tree
> comes into play.
>
> -Patrick
>
> >>> "Spencer Plantier"  07/30/01 10:39AM >>>
> yes you can
>
> --- Jason Kinney  wrote:
> > Can you use HSRP to backup a switch as you would a
> > router?
> >
> > Jason Kinney
> > 925-961-0223
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> =
> Spencer Plantier
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Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]

2001-07-31 Thread Michael L. Williams

This is possible with 2 sups in the same chassis, however, if you have two
separate chassis with their own Sups, then I don't think it's possible to
have one act as a "mirror" for the other.  You could configure the RSMs
(MSFC's, whatever) with HSRP, but that wouldn't do what you said you wanted.
Even with HSRP, the "other" interfaces on each RSM would need to be
configured with their own IPs, etc, thus not satisfying your requirement to
have "a second switch with a copy of the primary's configuration".  Unless
you have the end devices connected to both switches, your screwed anyway if
a sup dies (unless you have a redundant sup installed in which case you're
not utilizing the "other" switch).

I do not believe that what you're looking for is possible with to completely
separate switches like that.

Mike W.

"Jason Kinney"  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I want to protect from a total failure in the switch such as sup, loss of
> power (if UPS and redundant PS is not present), etc.
>
> I am not trying to failover an interface (spanning tree)
>
> I want to have a second switch with a copy of the primary's configuration
> and take over automatically once the primary fails.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Patrick Ramsey
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 8:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]
>
>
> Maybe I am confused
>
> If yo uwant redundant switches, you would implement spanning tree... This
is
> at layer two...not three, where routing takes place.
>
> Now if you mean using it on say a cat 6509 with a routing module, then yes
> you can implement it.  But it would still be at layer three and not two.
> You would not create redundant switches.  Again, this is where spanning
tree
> comes into play.
>
> -Patrick
>
> >>> "Spencer Plantier"  07/30/01 10:39AM >>>
> yes you can
>
> --- Jason Kinney  wrote:
> > Can you use HSRP to backup a switch as you would a
> > router?
> >
> > Jason Kinney
> > 925-961-0223
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> =
> Spencer Plantier
> Internet Solutions Engineer
> Voice 919-949-9993
> Cell 919-696-8848
>
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Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]

2001-07-30 Thread Santosh Koshy

I'm just trying to understand why you would not be able to do that, with
"spanning tree" and 2 identical switches.

Santosh Koshy

""Jason Kinney""  wrote in message
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> I want to protect from a total failure in the switch such as sup, loss of
> power (if UPS and redundant PS is not present), etc.
>
> I am not trying to failover an interface (spanning tree)
>
> I want to have a second switch with a copy of the primary's configuration
> and take over automatically once the primary fails.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Patrick Ramsey
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 8:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]
>
>
> Maybe I am confused
>
> If yo uwant redundant switches, you would implement spanning tree... This
is
> at layer two...not three, where routing takes place.
>
> Now if you mean using it on say a cat 6509 with a routing module, then yes
> you can implement it.  But it would still be at layer three and not two.
> You would not create redundant switches.  Again, this is where spanning
tree
> comes into play.
>
> -Patrick
>
> >>> "Spencer Plantier"  07/30/01 10:39AM >>>
> yes you can
>
> --- Jason Kinney  wrote:
> > Can you use HSRP to backup a switch as you would a
> > router?
> >
> > Jason Kinney
> > 925-961-0223
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> =
> Spencer Plantier
> Internet Solutions Engineer
> Voice 919-949-9993
> Cell 919-696-8848
>
> __
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RE: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]

2001-07-30 Thread Jason Kinney

I want to protect from a total failure in the switch such as sup, loss of
power (if UPS and redundant PS is not present), etc.

I am not trying to failover an interface (spanning tree)

I want to have a second switch with a copy of the primary's configuration
and take over automatically once the primary fails.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Patrick Ramsey
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 8:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]


Maybe I am confused

If yo uwant redundant switches, you would implement spanning tree... This is
at layer two...not three, where routing takes place.

Now if you mean using it on say a cat 6509 with a routing module, then yes
you can implement it.  But it would still be at layer three and not two.
You would not create redundant switches.  Again, this is where spanning tree
comes into play.

-Patrick

>>> "Spencer Plantier"  07/30/01 10:39AM >>>
yes you can

--- Jason Kinney  wrote:
> Can you use HSRP to backup a switch as you would a
> router?
>
> Jason Kinney
> 925-961-0223
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]

2001-07-30 Thread Glenn Johnson

fyi

see
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c3550/1214ea1/3550scg/sw
hsrp.htm#25516
&
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c3550/1214ea1/3550scg/sw
clus.htm#73115
(watch the wrapping)

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Patrick Ramsey
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 11:09 AM
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Subject: Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]


Maybe I am confused

If yo uwant redundant switches, you would implement spanning tree... This is
at layer two...not three, where routing takes place.

Now if you mean using it on say a cat 6509 with a routing module, then yes
you can implement it.  But it would still be at layer three and not two.
You would not create redundant switches.  Again, this is where spanning tree
comes into play.

-Patrick

>>> "Spencer Plantier"  07/30/01 10:39AM >>>
yes you can

--- Jason Kinney  wrote:
> Can you use HSRP to backup a switch as you would a
> router?
>
> Jason Kinney
> 925-961-0223
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]

2001-07-30 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Maybe I am confused

If yo uwant redundant switches, you would implement spanning tree... This is
at layer two...not three, where routing takes place.

Now if you mean using it on say a cat 6509 with a routing module, then yes
you can implement it.  But it would still be at layer three and not two. 
You would not create redundant switches.  Again, this is where spanning tree
comes into play.

-Patrick

>>> "Spencer Plantier"  07/30/01 10:39AM >>>
yes you can

--- Jason Kinney  wrote:
> Can you use HSRP to backup a switch as you would a
> router?
> 
> Jason Kinney
> 925-961-0223
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Re: HSRP for a switch [7:14164]

2001-07-30 Thread Spencer Plantier

yes you can

--- Jason Kinney  wrote:
> Can you use HSRP to backup a switch as you would a
> router?
> 
> Jason Kinney
> 925-961-0223
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