Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:554]

2001-04-14 Thread Victim

what is CIR?

"Jason J. Roysdon"  wrote in message
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 However, one thing to consider is that CIR at any given point doesn't mean
 that you have that end-to-end CIR.  Of course, without at least having the
 port speed at your given CIR, you'll never go faster, but having the local
 FR switch's CIR from 'show frame map' is useful.

 Consider this:
 PFI-LIV-3640#sh frame map
 Serial3/0.20 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 20(0x14,0x440), broadcast, BW
=
 64096
   status defined, active
 Serial3/0.22 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 22(0x16,0x460), broadcast, BW
=
 64000
   status defined, active
 Serial3/0.19 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 19(0x13,0x430), broadcast, BW
=
 128000
   status defined, active
 Serial3/0.18 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 18(0x12,0x420), broadcast, BW
=
 384000
   status defined, active
 Serial3/0.17 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 17(0x11,0x410), broadcast, BW
=
 128000
   status defined, active
 Serial3/0.23 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 23(0x17,0x470), broadcast, BW
=
 64000
   status defined, active
 Serial3/0.21 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 21(0x15,0x450), broadcast, BW
=
 64096
   status defined, active

 What's the total CIR for Serial3 into the cloud?  If you total it, it's
 896K.  That's way over-provisioned as this customer only has 8 64K CIR
(128K
 BE) links, which means the max they can pump CIR from the endpoints is 512
 CIR.  With Burst it's 1024, but since the far ends are guaranteed anything
 beyond CIR, it's not really that worth while.

 Of course, I'll have to call the FR carrier Monday and find out what is
 really provisioned (always the best way, at least that way you're getting
it
 from the horse's mouth, even if they're lying).  The customer has no real
 clue, as usual.

 Also, some of the FR switches at the remote ends show BW statements, but
 more than half (the more rural areas) do not, so it's only useful if
you've
 got a newer route that supports it.

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 ""Greg Owens""  wrote in message
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  Positive it is from the frame switch that is sent via LMI
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:56 AM
  To: Greg Owens
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
 
  Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth"
  statements on the subinterfaces?
 
 
  Greg Owens  wrote:
   Sh frame map will show u the CIR
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Stephen Skinner
  Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
 
  your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and
 him
  agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay)
  usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH"
command
  to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited
  amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you
 .
 
  HTH
 
  steve
 
 
  From: "David Gollop"
  Reply-To: "David Gollop"
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
  Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 -
  
  Hi..  How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line?  Like Result
shown
  below, what is the CIR?  How do I increase the CIR?  Do we have to
 contact
  the Frame relay provider?  What is the difference between CIR and EIR??
  
  
  SIN01#sh int s1/1.19
  Serial1/1.19 is up, line protocol is up
Hardware is M4T
Description: ---  Connects to JKT01 Ser0.2 ---
Internet address is 50.200.243.25/30
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
   reliability 255/255, txload 2/255, rxload 2/255
Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF
 
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Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:554]

2001-04-14 Thread Jason J. Roysdon

Committed Information Rate.  Read up on Frame Relay if you want to pick up
what we're talking about.

Step-by-step for those new to CCO:
http://cisco.com
Technical Support Help -- Cisco TAC
Technologies
WAN Frame Relay
http://cisco.com/pcgi-bin/Support/PSP/psp_view.pl?p=Internetworking:Frame_Re
lay

Once you've read up on a topic, check out some sample configs (starting at
the TAC link above):
Install  Configure
TAC Technical Tips/Sample Configurations
WAN Technologies
Frame Relay http://cisco.com/warp/public/125/index.shtml

I think the best thing anyone looking to pursue a Cisco career is to learn
CCO, specifically TAC and the UniverCD sections.  It's all there, and free.
I'd also suggest getting a CCO login as not everything is available to the
public (but all the basic items are).  They're also free, and if you don't
work for a Cisco partner, you can sign up as a consultant.
http://www.cisco.com/register/help/consultant.htm
http://www.cisco.com/register/

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""Victim""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 what is CIR?

 "Jason J. Roysdon"  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  However, one thing to consider is that CIR at any given point doesn't
mean
  that you have that end-to-end CIR.  Of course, without at least having
the
  port speed at your given CIR, you'll never go faster, but having the
local
  FR switch's CIR from 'show frame map' is useful.
 
  Consider this:
  PFI-LIV-3640#sh frame map
  Serial3/0.20 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 20(0x14,0x440), broadcast,
BW
 =
  64096
status defined, active
  Serial3/0.22 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 22(0x16,0x460), broadcast,
BW
 =
  64000
status defined, active
  Serial3/0.19 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 19(0x13,0x430), broadcast,
BW
 =
  128000
status defined, active
  Serial3/0.18 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 18(0x12,0x420), broadcast,
BW
 =
  384000
status defined, active
  Serial3/0.17 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 17(0x11,0x410), broadcast,
BW
 =
  128000
status defined, active
  Serial3/0.23 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 23(0x17,0x470), broadcast,
BW
 =
  64000
status defined, active
  Serial3/0.21 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 21(0x15,0x450), broadcast,
BW
 =
  64096
status defined, active
 
  What's the total CIR for Serial3 into the cloud?  If you total it, it's
  896K.  That's way over-provisioned as this customer only has 8 64K CIR
 (128K
  BE) links, which means the max they can pump CIR from the endpoints is
512
  CIR.  With Burst it's 1024, but since the far ends are guaranteed
anything
  beyond CIR, it's not really that worth while.
 
  Of course, I'll have to call the FR carrier Monday and find out what is
  really provisioned (always the best way, at least that way you're
getting
 it
  from the horse's mouth, even if they're lying).  The customer has no
real
  clue, as usual.
 
  Also, some of the FR switches at the remote ends show BW statements, but
  more than half (the more rural areas) do not, so it's only useful if
 you've
  got a newer route that supports it.
 
  --
  Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
  List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/
 
 
 
  ""Greg Owens""  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Positive it is from the frame switch that is sent via LMI
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:56 AM
   To: Greg Owens
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
  
   Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth"
   statements on the subinterfaces?
  
  
   Greg Owens  wrote:
Sh frame map will show u the CIR
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
   Stephen Skinner
   Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
  
   your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you
and
  him
   agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay)
   usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH"
 command
   to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a
limited
   amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you
  .
  
   HTH
  
   steve
  
  
   From: "David Gollop"
   Reply-To: "David Gollop"
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
   Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 -
   
   Hi..  How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line?  Like Result
 shown
   below, what is the CIR?  How do I increase the CIR?  Do we have to
  contact
   

Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR? [7:554]

2001-04-13 Thread Jason J. Roysdon

However, one thing to consider is that CIR at any given point doesn't mean
that you have that end-to-end CIR.  Of course, without at least having the
port speed at your given CIR, you'll never go faster, but having the local
FR switch's CIR from 'show frame map' is useful.

Consider this:
PFI-LIV-3640#sh frame map
Serial3/0.20 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 20(0x14,0x440), broadcast, BW =
64096
  status defined, active
Serial3/0.22 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 22(0x16,0x460), broadcast, BW =
64000
  status defined, active
Serial3/0.19 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 19(0x13,0x430), broadcast, BW =
128000
  status defined, active
Serial3/0.18 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 18(0x12,0x420), broadcast, BW =
384000
  status defined, active
Serial3/0.17 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 17(0x11,0x410), broadcast, BW =
128000
  status defined, active
Serial3/0.23 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 23(0x17,0x470), broadcast, BW =
64000
  status defined, active
Serial3/0.21 (up): point-to-point dlci, dlci 21(0x15,0x450), broadcast, BW =
64096
  status defined, active

What's the total CIR for Serial3 into the cloud?  If you total it, it's
896K.  That's way over-provisioned as this customer only has 8 64K CIR (128K
BE) links, which means the max they can pump CIR from the endpoints is 512
CIR.  With Burst it's 1024, but since the far ends are guaranteed anything
beyond CIR, it's not really that worth while.

Of course, I'll have to call the FR carrier Monday and find out what is
really provisioned (always the best way, at least that way you're getting it
from the horse's mouth, even if they're lying).  The customer has no real
clue, as usual.

Also, some of the FR switches at the remote ends show BW statements, but
more than half (the more rural areas) do not, so it's only useful if you've
got a newer route that supports it.

--
Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+
List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/



""Greg Owens""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Positive it is from the frame switch that is sent via LMI

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:56 AM
 To: Greg Owens
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: RE: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?

 Are you sure that information isn't just taken from the "bandwidth"
 statements on the subinterfaces?


 Greg Owens  wrote:
  Sh frame map will show u the CIR

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Stephen Skinner
 Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 7:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?

 your CIR (Committed information rate) is supplied by your SP ...you and
him
 agree how much you can have( depending on how much you pay)
 usually the person setting up your router sets the "BANDWIDTH" command
 to the CIR+ BR (burst rate) I.E how high you CAN go up to for a limited
 amount of time ..again your service provider has set this for you
.

 HTH

 steve


 From: "David Gollop"
 Reply-To: "David Gollop"
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: How to determine CIR and increase CIR of FR?
 Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:29:40 -
 
 Hi..  How to determine the CIR of a frame relay line?  Like Result  shown
 below, what is the CIR?  How do I increase the CIR?  Do we have to
contact
 the Frame relay provider?  What is the difference between CIR and EIR??
 
 
 SIN01#sh int s1/1.19
 Serial1/1.19 is up, line protocol is up
   Hardware is M4T
   Description: ---  Connects to JKT01 Ser0.2 ---
   Internet address is 50.200.243.25/30
   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 2048 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
  reliability 255/255, txload 2/255, rxload 2/255
   Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF
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