RE: Its not fair! [7:47868]
Welcome to the world of the network academy... There are instances when it would be good to have both enable and enable secret set. Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Morgan Hansen Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 1:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Its not fair! [7:47868] WOW! Im getting this form everyone now it seams; Enable secret works over enable password. So if you have an enable secret you do not need an enable password. And if this is correct, then ok, cool, im fine with it, no problem and thanx allot guys! What I DO have problems with though is paying allot of $$$ to some "school" here in Noway where I live, joining the CNAP program, studying the Curriculum day in day out, being told a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING by my CCNA/CNAP teachers (Not mentioning Cisco and their Curriculum!) and because of l this maybe failing my CCNA exam because of a misseducated mind! It's not fair! I mean. Come on?? Im sorry, but im really frustrated right now and I hope you can understand that :-( I mean, ok?? So weve used a Curriculum a little old, or at least older than what you need to be reading to pass the 640-607 exam, BUT: Wouldn't you agree, that it would be nice if Cisco could have sent us updates on important things like this here during our CNAP program?! If not, at least made sure our teachers knew about updates like this knowing they where gonna be asking us these questions on our exams :-( Nah, its not fair, its just not fair! (sad) Morgan mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=47877&t=47868 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Its not fair! [7:47868]
Just in case you're under the impression that these changes have been brought in some time during your classes and it's Cisco's fault for not telling you: Unless you've been studying for at least 4 or 5 years (or thereabouts), then nothing has changed. It's been this way for a long time. Make sure you have not misunderstood your teachers though before you shove it down their necks. Gaz ""Morgan Hansen"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > WOW! Im getting this form everyone now it seams; > > Enable secret works over enable password. So if you > have an enable secret you do not need an enable > password. > > > And if this is correct, then ok, cool, im fine with it, no problem and > thanx allot guys! > > What I DO have problems with though is paying allot of $$$ to some > "school" here in Noway where I live, joining the CNAP program, studying > the Curriculum day in day out, being told a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING > by my CCNA/CNAP teachers (Not mentioning Cisco and their Curriculum!) > and because of l this maybe failing my CCNA exam because of a > misseducated mind! It's not fair! > > I mean. Come on?? Im sorry, but im really frustrated right now and I > hope you can understand that :-( > I mean, ok?? So weve used a Curriculum a little old, or at least older > than what you need to be reading to pass the 640-607 exam, BUT: > Wouldn't you agree, that it would be nice if Cisco could have sent us > updates on important things like this here during our CNAP program?! > If not, at least made sure our teachers knew about updates like this > knowing they where gonna be asking us these questions on our exams :-( > > Nah, its not fair, its just not fair! (sad) > > Morgan > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=47879&t=47868 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Its not fair! [7:47868]
Morgan, I have been associated with the Cisco Networking Academy since Version 1 of the curriculum (it has undergone numerous revisions over the last four years). In all that time, it has always properly explained the difference between the ENABLE PASSWORD command and the ENABLE SECRET command. I would have to ask, "Is your curriculum being translated into your native language?" If this is so, and you are correctly understanding what your intructors are telling you, then I suspect the problem is with the translation of the curriculum, not the original curriculum. I would address this problem to your Regional CNAP director. Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy Morgan Hansen wrote: > WOW! Im getting this form everyone now it seams; > > Enable secret works over enable password. So if you > have an enable secret you do not need an enable > password. > > > And if this is correct, then ok, cool, im fine with it, no problem and > thanx allot guys! > > What I DO have problems with though is paying allot of $$$ to some > "school" here in Noway where I live, joining the CNAP program, studying > the Curriculum day in day out, being told a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING > by my CCNA/CNAP teachers (Not mentioning Cisco and their Curriculum!) > and because of l this maybe failing my CCNA exam because of a > misseducated mind! It's not fair! > > I mean. Come on?? Im sorry, but im really frustrated right now and I > hope you can understand that :-( > I mean, ok?? So weve used a Curriculum a little old, or at least older > than what you need to be reading to pass the 640-607 exam, BUT: > Wouldn't you agree, that it would be nice if Cisco could have sent us > updates on important things like this here during our CNAP program?! > If not, at least made sure our teachers knew about updates like this > knowing they where gonna be asking us these questions on our exams :-( > > Nah, its not fair, its just not fair! (sad) > > Morgan > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=47882&t=47868 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Its not fair! [7:47868]
>Morgan Hansen >Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 1:15 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Its not fair! [7:47868] > >WOW! Im getting this form everyone now it seams; > >Enable secret works over enable password. So if you >have an enable secret you do not need an enable >password. It's a good idea to have both. If someone downloaded an older version of the IOS, the older version wouldn't recognize the newer "enable secret" command. This would leave your router without an enable password. So, you should do both. As everyone has pointed out, the enable password is not the same as the passwords that let you in via console or Telnet. The Cisco Networking Academy course materials are generally very good. I doubt they got this wrong. I can belive that your instructor made the mistake. But did the course materials? You will find quite a bit of misinformation about Cisco configuration, concepts, design, etc. There are numerous mistakes in books, course materials, online materials, etc. We all deal with this frustration on a daily basis. However, most information that comes directly from Cisco (not all of course! ;-) is generally accurate. Good luck with your studies. Don't get too frustrated. The CCNA exam is quite easy. You'll do OK, I bet. Priscilla > > >And if this is correct, then ok, cool, im fine with it, no problem and >thanx allot guys! > >What I DO have problems with though is paying allot of $$$ to some >"school" here in Noway where I live, joining the CNAP program, studying >the Curriculum day in day out, being told a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THING >by my CCNA/CNAP teachers (Not mentioning Cisco and their Curriculum!) >and because of l this maybe failing my CCNA exam because of a >misseducated mind! It's not fair! > >I mean. Come on?? Im sorry, but im really frustrated right now and I >hope you can understand that :-( >I mean, ok?? So weve used a Curriculum a little old, or at least older >than what you need to be reading to pass the 640-607 exam, BUT: >Wouldn't you agree, that it would be nice if Cisco could have sent us >updates on important things like this here during our CNAP program?! >If not, at least made sure our teachers knew about updates like this >knowing they where gonna be asking us these questions on our exams :-( > >Nah, its not fair, its just not fair! (sad) > >Morgan Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=47885&t=47868 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]