RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
Try Cvoice and try the integrating of data/voice networks book. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of a. ahmad Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317] Dear All, I just want to work on my basic concepts of networking and for that I need the name of some valuable books. I am no more interested in studying CCNA,CCNP books as I have already studied those books. I hope you can understand my point. I just want my base as strong as possible and then gradually move towards advance networking stuff. My ultimate aim is to be a Voice Engineer. Thanks in advance! AA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50319&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
Mr. Ahmad, I have found Tanenbaum's Computer Networks, 2nd edition to be a very good book. Radia Perlman's Bridges and Switches is also a classic. Alex a. ahmad wrote: > > Dear All, > > I just want to work on my basic concepts of networking and for > that I need the name of some valuable books. I am no more > interested in studying CCNA,CCNP books as I have already > studied those books. I hope you can understand my point. I > just want my base as strong as possible and then gradually move > towards advance networking stuff. My ultimate aim is to be a > Voice Engineer. > > Thanks in advance! > AA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50329&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
a. ahmad wrote: > > Dear All, > > I just want to work on my basic concepts of networking and for > that I need the name of some valuable books. I am no more > interested in studying CCNA,CCNP books as I have already > studied those books. I hope you can understand my point. I > just want my base as strong as possible and then gradually move > towards advance networking stuff. My ultimate aim is to be a > Voice Engineer. > > Thanks in advance! > AA Dear AA, It's very important to get a good grounding in networking concepts while studying for Cisco certifications. You can actually attain some of the certifications without getting a good grounding ;-) but that's not advisable. I have a list of books on my Web site. They are all excellent books. Someone mentioned Tannenbaum's book. It's good, but quite theoretical, with lots of math. It even has Fourier analysis in it. ;-) I'm looking at an older edition. It may be different in the latest edition. To learn, TCP/IP, the must-have books are by Comer and W.R. Stevens. Comer also has a very good basic networking book called Computer Networks and Internets. To learn internetworking, especially bridging and routing, the must have book is by Radia Perlman, as someone mentioned. And to learn how protocols really work, the must have book is by Oppenheimer and Bardwell. ;-) Anyway, my list is here: http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/books.html Good luck! I applaud your desire to learn how networks really work. Priscilla Oppenheimer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50332&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
Dear Priscilla, Many thanks for kind suggestions. I just got Radia Perlman book and I am going to fini this book on my first priority. Secondly I agree with you regarding Tannenbaum's book as it really gave me tought time as far as maths is concerned and I was hardly able to finish 2nd chapter that I left that book. You mentioned that "And to learn how protocols really work, the must have book is by Oppenheimer and Bardwell. ;-)" but what is the name of the book? Thanks a lot! AA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50339&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
troubleshooting campus networks... I just got it today.. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of a. ahmad Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 6:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317] Dear Priscilla, Many thanks for kind suggestions. I just got Radia Perlman book and I am going to fini this book on my first priority. Secondly I agree with you regarding Tannenbaum's book as it really gave me tought time as far as maths is concerned and I was hardly able to finish 2nd chapter that I left that book. You mentioned that "And to learn how protocols really work, the must have book is by Oppenheimer and Bardwell. ;-)" but what is the name of the book? Thanks a lot! AA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50344&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
If you want to learn about - swicthing concept (not especially Cisco) the very best and very accurate book I've ever read it: Rich Seifert, The Swicth Book, - Ethernet: Charles E. Spurgeon, Ethernet, The Definitive Guide. Best regards, Tamas Horvath network engineer Tel.: +36 22/515-452, Fax: +36 22/327-532 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317] a. ahmad wrote: > > Dear All, > > I just want to work on my basic concepts of networking and for > that I need the name of some valuable books. I am no more > interested in studying CCNA,CCNP books as I have already > studied those books. I hope you can understand my point. I > just want my base as strong as possible and then gradually move > towards advance networking stuff. My ultimate aim is to be a > Voice Engineer. > > Thanks in advance! > AA Dear AA, It's very important to get a good grounding in networking concepts while studying for Cisco certifications. You can actually attain some of the certifications without getting a good grounding ;-) but that's not advisable. I have a list of books on my Web site. They are all excellent books. Someone mentioned Tannenbaum's book. It's good, but quite theoretical, with lots of math. It even has Fourier analysis in it. ;-) I'm looking at an older edition. It may be different in the latest edition. To learn, TCP/IP, the must-have books are by Comer and W.R. Stevens. Comer also has a very good basic networking book called Computer Networks and Internets. To learn internetworking, especially bridging and routing, the must have book is by Radia Perlman, as someone mentioned. And to learn how protocols really work, the must have book is by Oppenheimer and Bardwell. ;-) Anyway, my list is here: http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/books.html Good luck! I applaud your desire to learn how networks really work. Priscilla Oppenheimer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50365&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
Howard Berkowitz's Network Architecture book is also a good fit in this catagory and is currently offered in a package with Radia's book at amazon. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578700604/qid=1028204168/sr=8-27/ref=sr_8_27/002-7692909-0053653 Tanenbaum's book remains one of my favorite texts for a well rounded introduction to networking theory and applications. Pete At 11:24 PM 7/31/2002 +, Alex Lei wrote: >Mr. Ahmad, > >I have found Tanenbaum's Computer Networks, 2nd edition to be a very good >book. Radia Perlman's Bridges and Switches is also a classic. > >Alex > >a. ahmad wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > I just want to work on my basic concepts of networking and for > > that I need the name of some valuable books. I am no more > > interested in studying CCNA,CCNP books as I have already > > studied those books. I hope you can understand my point. I > > just want my base as strong as possible and then gradually move > > towards advance networking stuff. My ultimate aim is to be a > > Voice Engineer. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > AA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50370&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
Some interesting reading http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1122.html http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1180.html -Original Message- From: HORVATH TAMAS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2002 6:32 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317] If you want to learn about - swicthing concept (not especially Cisco) the very best and very accurate book I've ever read it: Rich Seifert, The Swicth Book, - Ethernet: Charles E. Spurgeon, Ethernet, The Definitive Guide. Best regards, Tamas Horvath network engineer Tel.: +36 22/515-452, Fax: +36 22/327-532 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317] a. ahmad wrote: > > Dear All, > > I just want to work on my basic concepts of networking and for > that I need the name of some valuable books. I am no more > interested in studying CCNA,CCNP books as I have already > studied those books. I hope you can understand my point. I > just want my base as strong as possible and then gradually move > towards advance networking stuff. My ultimate aim is to be a > Voice Engineer. > > Thanks in advance! > AA Dear AA, It's very important to get a good grounding in networking concepts while studying for Cisco certifications. You can actually attain some of the certifications without getting a good grounding ;-) but that's not advisable. I have a list of books on my Web site. They are all excellent books. Someone mentioned Tannenbaum's book. It's good, but quite theoretical, with lots of math. It even has Fourier analysis in it. ;-) I'm looking at an older edition. It may be different in the latest edition. To learn, TCP/IP, the must-have books are by Comer and W.R. Stevens. Comer also has a very good basic networking book called Computer Networks and Internets. To learn internetworking, especially bridging and routing, the must have book is by Radia Perlman, as someone mentioned. And to learn how protocols really work, the must have book is by Oppenheimer and Bardwell. ;-) Anyway, my list is here: http://www.troubleshootingnetworks.com/books.html Good luck! I applaud your desire to learn how networks really work. Priscilla Oppenheimer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50456&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
Dear All, Thanks for some valueable suggestions. One more thingif one is willing to be a great networker, young, energatic but unable to get hands on experience then what are some guidelines for him/her.. Thanks, AA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50462&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
Dear All, Thanks for some valueable suggestions. One more thingif one is willing to be a great networker, young, energatic but unable to get hands on experience then what are some guidelines for him/her.. Thanks, AA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50465&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
Dear All, Thanks for some valueable suggestions. One more thingif one is willing to be a great networker, young, energatic but unable to get hands on experience then what are some guidelines for him/her.. Thanks, AA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50464&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
a. ahmad wrote: > > Dear All, > > Thanks for some valueable suggestions. One more thingif one > is willing to be a great networker, young, energatic but unable > to get hands on experience then what are some guidelines for > him/her.. Could you get some experience in a volunteer job? A lot of schools and non-profit organizations need networking help, whether they know it or not. Or how about convincing a company to let you be a part-time apprentice or intern at little or no pay. And of course, you can get a lot of experience in a home lab. Priscilla > > Thanks, > AA Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50495&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Kind suggestion is Needed! [7:50317]
try some router rental labs that you can access online. there are some links on the groupstudy home page itself. --- "a. ahmad" wrote: > Dear All, > > Thanks for some valueable suggestions. One more > thingif one is willing > to be a great networker, young, energatic but unable > to get hands on > experience then what are some guidelines for > him/her.. > > Thanks, > AA [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=50542&t=50317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
