Re: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]

2001-12-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Chuck,

I am sorry to hear that someone as dedicated to having a thorough 
understanding of the technology and software necessary to become a CCIE has 
not made the mark this time - I'm sure that as many say the third time is a 
charm.  However, as I mentioned in a previous post I have grave concerns 
about accomplishing the more difficult tasks of a previous two day event and 
having them compressed into the new one day format.  At least for us old 
timers and senior citizens.

As I recall you mentioned time management a definite issue with the 
previous test and did you think that this is even a greater concern for the 
new format.  You mentioned fat fingering some input, and this would 
indicate that speed typing and the use of alias command definitions will 
definitely be required.  I don't believe that they allow you to print out 
your configurations with a provided printer either -- this probably means a 
lot time consuming hand drafts to keep track of IP address assignments etc.

I have scheduled my Lab for the end of May 2002 (first attempt) and hope to 
have a better estimate of what the new format represents by then - I would 
like to think that by diligent home lab study, formal hands-on training
and
reading the mail I can prepare for the event.

As I mentioned in a previous post, I am most likely one of the oldest CCIE 
candidates around having just passed my 60th birthday.  I would prefer to 
have some time during the LAB test to verify IOS command syntax by using the 
CD and CCO references available.  But I would almost garner that little on
no
time will be available for research when encountering some unexpected 
configuration scenario.

One question would be: did you feel even greater pressure to perform under 
the new one day time constraints?

Will be reading the mail and wish you the best in your next attempt;
however,
as someone mentioned take a short break, rest -- even though training and 
certification is like a long HI climb on a ladder each rung is not meant to 
rest upon but to reach a higher level.  You are almost there and I am still 
at the bottom looking up.

Regards;

Ray CCDP, CCNP and CCIE candidate.




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RE: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]

2001-12-05 Thread Kane, Christopher A.

Chuck,

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate your knowledge and the informative
posts. As someone else posted, it's all about learning. I am prepping for my
Written and it's great to have a format to follow. I only hope that the
lab's purpose is to prove CCIE level knowledge to be useful and applicable
to real-world networking.

Good luck on the next one sir.

Chris

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]


I wish I could say it took so long to get my results back because my
excruciatingly sophisticated solutions to the problems presented required
detailed and intimate analysis. Alas, that was not the case.

For those ninnies who complain that the one day lab devalues the process,
all I can say is WRONG!
The lab I saw was far more difficult than I remember from my previous
attempt, and my previous attempt was NOT easy. In my first attempt, I did
not see anything I couldn't do. This time, although FAR better prepared, I
saw LOTS of things I couldn't do. IMHO, the one day format, with the
elimination of the monkey tasks, allows Cisco to demand a lot more. The 26
points previously allocated to terminal server setup, cabling, and
troubleshooting all go someplace. WOW! The places they went! Previous topics
that were glossed over appeared in depth. Cisco continues to up the ante,
and not always in ways one might expect. Some things I wouldn't have
expected were there in spades. Probably THE major factor continues to be
reachability. If you don't understand the implications of the given network
topology, and given interactions, you will be screwed.

The topology presented was interesting. Amazing what one can do on a six
router / two switch pod to wreak havoc and let you know what an idiot you
are. Devious doesn't begin to describe it. Bootcamp and IPExpert - it ain't
the number of routers, boys!

The e-mail feedback is amusing, but not particularly informative. I failed
with a score greater than 20, meaning I can go back in 30 days for more
humiliation, if I so desire. the breakdown percentages ( not scores ) would
be of more interest if I were sitting with the proctor discussing the whys
and the expectations. Otherwise it does me no god at all. for example, I
solved a particular problem doing something a particular way. It worked just
fine in terms of the results. Yet on that section I scored very poorly. What
were they looking for?

Fat fingers are still the major enemy for me, at least. It's no fun fat
fingering on a Cat 5K. Not by any means. It also helps to be certain layer
two stuff is done correctly.

Well, debriefing will be fun. I have the topology duplicated in my home lab,
and I will enjoy analyzing the problems I saw in the real lab. No you
can't telnet in to look. DON'T ASK!

In terms of seating, it appears to me that there are now more racks in the
lab, in San Jose, anyway. Half the seats are taken by those testing. The
other half seem to be those used the previous day. the proctors crank
through the idle racks, grading the previous day's results.

One last thing. I know what CCO says, and I know what IOS I saw on my rack.
Rats. The advertised IOS would have gone a long way towards eliminating a
particular problem I had. Not complaining, because any CCIE should have been
able to solve the particular puzzle no matter what the IOS involved. Just
observing that some things are still in the process of change.

The proctors are still the good folks I remember from last time. Too bad we
are not given the opportunity for more interaction afterwards. I would
really have enjoyed discussing my results.

Whelp, another time.

Chuck




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RE: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]

2001-12-05 Thread Rik Guyler

Chuck, I can read the frustration in your post...I feel your pain.  I have
to say I am surprised to hear that your experience with the new lab was not
a good one.  If there is anybody I would say that about, it is you.  

I hope you are planning a vacation from Cisco.  Certainly you are tired.  A
rested mind will make the choice to take the lab again (and take no
prisoners).  A rested mind will identify the objectives more clearly.  And
of course a rested mind will focus, comprehend and retain the required
information more completely.

Keep up the good work dude!

Rik

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]


I wish I could say it took so long to get my results back because my
excruciatingly sophisticated solutions to the problems presented required
detailed and intimate analysis. Alas, that was not the case.

For those ninnies who complain that the one day lab devalues the process,
all I can say is WRONG! The lab I saw was far more difficult than I remember
from my previous attempt, and my previous attempt was NOT easy. In my first
attempt, I did not see anything I couldn't do. This time, although FAR
better prepared, I saw LOTS of things I couldn't do. IMHO, the one day
format, with the elimination of the monkey tasks, allows Cisco to demand a
lot more. The 26 points previously allocated to terminal server setup,
cabling, and troubleshooting all go someplace. WOW! The places they went!
Previous topics that were glossed over appeared in depth. Cisco continues to
up the ante, and not always in ways one might expect. Some things I wouldn't
have expected were there in spades. Probably THE major factor continues to
be reachability. If you don't understand the implications of the given
network topology, and given interactions, you will be screwed.

The topology presented was interesting. Amazing what one can do on a six
router / two switch pod to wreak havoc and let you know what an idiot you
are. Devious doesn't begin to describe it. Bootcamp and IPExpert - it ain't
the number of routers, boys!

The e-mail feedback is amusing, but not particularly informative. I failed
with a score greater than 20, meaning I can go back in 30 days for more
humiliation, if I so desire. the breakdown percentages ( not scores ) would
be of more interest if I were sitting with the proctor discussing the whys
and the expectations. Otherwise it does me no god at all. for example, I
solved a particular problem doing something a particular way. It worked just
fine in terms of the results. Yet on that section I scored very poorly. What
were they looking for?

Fat fingers are still the major enemy for me, at least. It's no fun fat
fingering on a Cat 5K. Not by any means. It also helps to be certain layer
two stuff is done correctly.

Well, debriefing will be fun. I have the topology duplicated in my home lab,
and I will enjoy analyzing the problems I saw in the real lab. No you
can't telnet in to look. DON'T ASK!

In terms of seating, it appears to me that there are now more racks in the
lab, in San Jose, anyway. Half the seats are taken by those testing. The
other half seem to be those used the previous day. the proctors crank
through the idle racks, grading the previous day's results.

One last thing. I know what CCO says, and I know what IOS I saw on my rack.
Rats. The advertised IOS would have gone a long way towards eliminating a
particular problem I had. Not complaining, because any CCIE should have been
able to solve the particular puzzle no matter what the IOS involved. Just
observing that some things are still in the process of change.

The proctors are still the good folks I remember from last time. Too bad we
are not given the opportunity for more interaction afterwards. I would
really have enjoyed discussing my results.

Whelp, another time.

Chuck




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RE: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]

2001-12-05 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Let me clarify a bit here. I am quite impressed with the new format. I was
not impressed by my performance, but I believe the one day lab is a more
comprehensive and more difficult test than the two day.

I look forward to my next encounter, set for June 16, 2002. I see from the
scheduling tool that a lot of dates seem to open up at the last minute, and
I want to get back in no later than the end of April.

Chuck


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Rik Guyler
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Chuck, I can read the frustration in your post...I feel your pain.  I have
to say I am surprised to hear that your experience with the new lab was not
a good one.  If there is anybody I would say that about, it is you.

I hope you are planning a vacation from Cisco.  Certainly you are tired.  A
rested mind will make the choice to take the lab again (and take no
prisoners).  A rested mind will identify the objectives more clearly.  And
of course a rested mind will focus, comprehend and retain the required
information more completely.

Keep up the good work dude!

Rik

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 8:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]


I wish I could say it took so long to get my results back because my
excruciatingly sophisticated solutions to the problems presented required
detailed and intimate analysis. Alas, that was not the case.

For those ninnies who complain that the one day lab devalues the process,
all I can say is WRONG! The lab I saw was far more difficult than I remember
from my previous attempt, and my previous attempt was NOT easy. In my first
attempt, I did not see anything I couldn't do. This time, although FAR
better prepared, I saw LOTS of things I couldn't do. IMHO, the one day
format, with the elimination of the monkey tasks, allows Cisco to demand a
lot more. The 26 points previously allocated to terminal server setup,
cabling, and troubleshooting all go someplace. WOW! The places they went!
Previous topics that were glossed over appeared in depth. Cisco continues to
up the ante, and not always in ways one might expect. Some things I wouldn't
have expected were there in spades. Probably THE major factor continues to
be reachability. If you don't understand the implications of the given
network topology, and given interactions, you will be screwed.

The topology presented was interesting. Amazing what one can do on a six
router / two switch pod to wreak havoc and let you know what an idiot you
are. Devious doesn't begin to describe it. Bootcamp and IPExpert - it ain't
the number of routers, boys!

The e-mail feedback is amusing, but not particularly informative. I failed
with a score greater than 20, meaning I can go back in 30 days for more
humiliation, if I so desire. the breakdown percentages ( not scores ) would
be of more interest if I were sitting with the proctor discussing the whys
and the expectations. Otherwise it does me no god at all. for example, I
solved a particular problem doing something a particular way. It worked just
fine in terms of the results. Yet on that section I scored very poorly. What
were they looking for?

Fat fingers are still the major enemy for me, at least. It's no fun fat
fingering on a Cat 5K. Not by any means. It also helps to be certain layer
two stuff is done correctly.

Well, debriefing will be fun. I have the topology duplicated in my home lab,
and I will enjoy analyzing the problems I saw in the real lab. No you
can't telnet in to look. DON'T ASK!

In terms of seating, it appears to me that there are now more racks in the
lab, in San Jose, anyway. Half the seats are taken by those testing. The
other half seem to be those used the previous day. the proctors crank
through the idle racks, grading the previous day's results.

One last thing. I know what CCO says, and I know what IOS I saw on my rack.
Rats. The advertised IOS would have gone a long way towards eliminating a
particular problem I had. Not complaining, because any CCIE should have been
able to solve the particular puzzle no matter what the IOS involved. Just
observing that some things are still in the process of change.

The proctors are still the good folks I remember from last time. Too bad we
are not given the opportunity for more interaction afterwards. I would
really have enjoyed discussing my results.

Whelp, another time.

Chuck




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Re: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]

2001-12-04 Thread Paul Lalonde

Chuck,

You didn't fail, buddy, you simply got one BIG step closer to achieving it.

It's all about learning, right?  I totally admire your approach, and I
applaud your determination.

The next one's got your name on it... count on it!

Paul


Chuck Larrieu  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I wish I could say it took so long to get my results back because my
 excruciatingly sophisticated solutions to the problems presented required
 detailed and intimate analysis. Alas, that was not the case.

 For those ninnies who complain that the one day lab devalues the process,
 all I can say is WRONG!
 The lab I saw was far more difficult than I remember from my previous
 attempt, and my previous attempt was NOT easy. In my first attempt, I did
 not see anything I couldn't do. This time, although FAR better prepared, I
 saw LOTS of things I couldn't do. IMHO, the one day format, with the
 elimination of the monkey tasks, allows Cisco to demand a lot more. The 26
 points previously allocated to terminal server setup, cabling, and
 troubleshooting all go someplace. WOW! The places they went! Previous
topics
 that were glossed over appeared in depth. Cisco continues to up the ante,
 and not always in ways one might expect. Some things I wouldn't have
 expected were there in spades. Probably THE major factor continues to be
 reachability. If you don't understand the implications of the given
network
 topology, and given interactions, you will be screwed.

 The topology presented was interesting. Amazing what one can do on a six
 router / two switch pod to wreak havoc and let you know what an idiot you
 are. Devious doesn't begin to describe it. Bootcamp and IPExpert - it
ain't
 the number of routers, boys!

 The e-mail feedback is amusing, but not particularly informative. I failed
 with a score greater than 20, meaning I can go back in 30 days for more
 humiliation, if I so desire. the breakdown percentages ( not scores )
would
 be of more interest if I were sitting with the proctor discussing the whys
 and the expectations. Otherwise it does me no god at all. for example, I
 solved a particular problem doing something a particular way. It worked
just
 fine in terms of the results. Yet on that section I scored very poorly.
What
 were they looking for?

 Fat fingers are still the major enemy for me, at least. It's no fun fat
 fingering on a Cat 5K. Not by any means. It also helps to be certain layer
 two stuff is done correctly.

 Well, debriefing will be fun. I have the topology duplicated in my home
lab,
 and I will enjoy analyzing the problems I saw in the real lab. No you
 can't telnet in to look. DON'T ASK!

 In terms of seating, it appears to me that there are now more racks in the
 lab, in San Jose, anyway. Half the seats are taken by those testing. The
 other half seem to be those used the previous day. the proctors crank
 through the idle racks, grading the previous day's results.

 One last thing. I know what CCO says, and I know what IOS I saw on my
rack.
 Rats. The advertised IOS would have gone a long way towards eliminating a
 particular problem I had. Not complaining, because any CCIE should have
been
 able to solve the particular puzzle no matter what the IOS involved. Just
 observing that some things are still in the process of change.

 The proctors are still the good folks I remember from last time. Too bad
we
 are not given the opportunity for more interaction afterwards. I would
 really have enjoyed discussing my results.

 Whelp, another time.

 Chuck




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RE: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]

2001-12-04 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Chuck,

I'm sorry to hear you didn't make it - you have been (and still are) on the
top list of members replying with good, informative and professional answers
to many questions including mine. You have also made some good points in
several discussions.

I am sure that you will smack a very good score on your next try at the lab.

Also, thanks for the feedback - it's nice (and scary) to hear about what
goes on on the inside.

Good luck next time, you'll make it.

Ole


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-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]


I wish I could say it took so long to get my results back because my
excruciatingly sophisticated solutions to the problems presented required
detailed and intimate analysis. Alas, that was not the case.

For those ninnies who complain that the one day lab devalues the process,
all I can say is WRONG!
The lab I saw was far more difficult than I remember from my previous
attempt, and my previous attempt was NOT easy. In my first attempt, I did
not see anything I couldn't do. This time, although FAR better prepared, I
saw LOTS of things I couldn't do. IMHO, the one day format, with the
elimination of the monkey tasks, allows Cisco to demand a lot more. The 26
points previously allocated to terminal server setup, cabling, and
troubleshooting all go someplace. WOW! The places they went! Previous topics
that were glossed over appeared in depth. Cisco continues to up the ante,
and not always in ways one might expect. Some things I wouldn't have
expected were there in spades. Probably THE major factor continues to be
reachability. If you don't understand the implications of the given network
topology, and given interactions, you will be screwed.

The topology presented was interesting. Amazing what one can do on a six
router / two switch pod to wreak havoc and let you know what an idiot you
are. Devious doesn't begin to describe it. Bootcamp and IPExpert - it ain't
the number of routers, boys!

The e-mail feedback is amusing, but not particularly informative. I failed
with a score greater than 20, meaning I can go back in 30 days for more
humiliation, if I so desire. the breakdown percentages ( not scores ) would
be of more interest if I were sitting with the proctor discussing the whys
and the expectations. Otherwise it does me no god at all. for example, I
solved a particular problem doing something a particular way. It worked just
fine in terms of the results. Yet on that section I scored very poorly. What
were they looking for?

Fat fingers are still the major enemy for me, at least. It's no fun fat
fingering on a Cat 5K. Not by any means. It also helps to be certain layer
two stuff is done correctly.

Well, debriefing will be fun. I have the topology duplicated in my home lab,
and I will enjoy analyzing the problems I saw in the real lab. No you
can't telnet in to look. DON'T ASK!

In terms of seating, it appears to me that there are now more racks in the
lab, in San Jose, anyway. Half the seats are taken by those testing. The
other half seem to be those used the previous day. the proctors crank
through the idle racks, grading the previous day's results.

One last thing. I know what CCO says, and I know what IOS I saw on my rack.
Rats. The advertised IOS would have gone a long way towards eliminating a
particular problem I had. Not complaining, because any CCIE should have been
able to solve the particular puzzle no matter what the IOS involved. Just
observing that some things are still in the process of change.

The proctors are still the good folks I remember from last time. Too bad we
are not given the opportunity for more interaction afterwards. I would
really have enjoyed discussing my results.

Whelp, another time.

Chuck




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RE: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]

2001-12-04 Thread Gregg Malcolm

Chuck,

Thanks for the great feedback.  Sounds like a killer.  I'm taking the lab in
a couple of months (failed my 1st attempt) and it was very helpful to hear
your take.  My question for you is, how much were you able to eat at lunch? 
Tests scores are directly proportional to the amount of food you consume at
lunch.  Correct this and you will pass next time.

Regards,  Gregg


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Re: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]

2001-12-04 Thread Donny Mateo

Hi Chuck,

sorry to hear that you didn't pass, but I do get the funny feeling that the 
next try is going bring good news to this list.. ;)
Anyway, just wanted to say, your commment really makes the test sounds 
difficult if not impossible .

Keep it on, and you'll be there in no time..;)

Regards
Donny

From: Chuck Larrieu 
Reply-To: Chuck Larrieu 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :-Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:34:44 -0500

I wish I could say it took so long to get my results back because my
excruciatingly sophisticated solutions to the problems presented required
detailed and intimate analysis. Alas, that was not the case.

For those ninnies who complain that the one day lab devalues the process,
all I can say is WRONG!
The lab I saw was far more difficult than I remember from my previous
attempt, and my previous attempt was NOT easy. In my first attempt, I did
not see anything I couldn't do. This time, although FAR better prepared, I
saw LOTS of things I couldn't do. IMHO, the one day format, with the
elimination of the monkey tasks, allows Cisco to demand a lot more. The 26
points previously allocated to terminal server setup, cabling, and
troubleshooting all go someplace. WOW! The places they went! Previous 
topics
that were glossed over appeared in depth. Cisco continues to up the ante,
and not always in ways one might expect. Some things I wouldn't have
expected were there in spades. Probably THE major factor continues to be
reachability. If you don't understand the implications of the given network
topology, and given interactions, you will be screwed.

The topology presented was interesting. Amazing what one can do on a six
router / two switch pod to wreak havoc and let you know what an idiot you
are. Devious doesn't begin to describe it. Bootcamp and IPExpert - it ain't
the number of routers, boys!

The e-mail feedback is amusing, but not particularly informative. I failed
with a score greater than 20, meaning I can go back in 30 days for more
humiliation, if I so desire. the breakdown percentages ( not scores ) would
be of more interest if I were sitting with the proctor discussing the whys
and the expectations. Otherwise it does me no god at all. for example, I
solved a particular problem doing something a particular way. It worked 
just
fine in terms of the results. Yet on that section I scored very poorly. 
What
were they looking for?

Fat fingers are still the major enemy for me, at least. It's no fun fat
fingering on a Cat 5K. Not by any means. It also helps to be certain layer
two stuff is done correctly.

Well, debriefing will be fun. I have the topology duplicated in my home 
lab,
and I will enjoy analyzing the problems I saw in the real lab. No you
can't telnet in to look. DON'T ASK!

In terms of seating, it appears to me that there are now more racks in the
lab, in San Jose, anyway. Half the seats are taken by those testing. The
other half seem to be those used the previous day. the proctors crank
through the idle racks, grading the previous day's results.

One last thing. I know what CCO says, and I know what IOS I saw on my rack.
Rats. The advertised IOS would have gone a long way towards eliminating a
particular problem I had. Not complaining, because any CCIE should have 
been
able to solve the particular puzzle no matter what the IOS involved. Just
observing that some things are still in the process of change.

The proctors are still the good folks I remember from last time. Too bad we
are not given the opportunity for more interaction afterwards. I would
really have enjoyed discussing my results.

Whelp, another time.

Chuck
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Re: Lab Attempt #2 - no go :- [7:28142]

2001-12-04 Thread Tom Lisa

Chuck,

I have no doubt you will succeed on your next attempt.  I would venture a
guess that if
they hadn't switched to a one-day lab, you would have passed this time.

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy



Chuck Larrieu wrote:

 I wish I could say it took so long to get my results back because my
 excruciatingly sophisticated solutions to the problems presented required
 detailed and intimate analysis. Alas, that was not the case.

 For those ninnies who complain that the one day lab devalues the process,
 all I can say is WRONG!
 The lab I saw was far more difficult than I remember from my previous
 attempt, and my previous attempt was NOT easy. In my first attempt, I did
 not see anything I couldn't do. This time, although FAR better prepared, I
 saw LOTS of things I couldn't do. IMHO, the one day format, with the
 elimination of the monkey tasks, allows Cisco to demand a lot more. The 26
 points previously allocated to terminal server setup, cabling, and
 troubleshooting all go someplace. WOW! The places they went! Previous
topics
 that were glossed over appeared in depth. Cisco continues to up the ante,
 and not always in ways one might expect. Some things I wouldn't have
 expected were there in spades. Probably THE major factor continues to be
 reachability. If you don't understand the implications of the given network
 topology, and given interactions, you will be screwed.

 The topology presented was interesting. Amazing what one can do on a six
 router / two switch pod to wreak havoc and let you know what an idiot you
 are. Devious doesn't begin to describe it. Bootcamp and IPExpert - it ain't
 the number of routers, boys!

 The e-mail feedback is amusing, but not particularly informative. I failed
 with a score greater than 20, meaning I can go back in 30 days for more
 humiliation, if I so desire. the breakdown percentages ( not scores ) would
 be of more interest if I were sitting with the proctor discussing the whys
 and the expectations. Otherwise it does me no god at all. for example, I
 solved a particular problem doing something a particular way. It worked
just
 fine in terms of the results. Yet on that section I scored very poorly.
What
 were they looking for?

 Fat fingers are still the major enemy for me, at least. It's no fun fat
 fingering on a Cat 5K. Not by any means. It also helps to be certain layer
 two stuff is done correctly.

 Well, debriefing will be fun. I have the topology duplicated in my home
lab,
 and I will enjoy analyzing the problems I saw in the real lab. No you
 can't telnet in to look. DON'T ASK!

 In terms of seating, it appears to me that there are now more racks in the
 lab, in San Jose, anyway. Half the seats are taken by those testing. The
 other half seem to be those used the previous day. the proctors crank
 through the idle racks, grading the previous day's results.

 One last thing. I know what CCO says, and I know what IOS I saw on my rack.
 Rats. The advertised IOS would have gone a long way towards eliminating a
 particular problem I had. Not complaining, because any CCIE should have
been
 able to solve the particular puzzle no matter what the IOS involved. Just
 observing that some things are still in the process of change.

 The proctors are still the good folks I remember from last time. Too bad we
 are not given the opportunity for more interaction afterwards. I would
 really have enjoyed discussing my results.

 Whelp, another time.

 Chuck




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