Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-12 Thread MADMAN

What is the real address, I understand if your reticent to provide it
but is it part of a larger CIDR block from the other provider?  If so
and the satellite provider is announcing a more specific /24 then all
traffic will come over the satellite link.

  there is much info missing to really help you in any meaningful way.

  Dave

suaveguru wrote:
 
 Most of the traffic is arriving via the provider your
 doing BGP with and is via this one block of ip with a
 /24 e.g 1.1.1.0/24
 
 I am seeing almost 100% utilisation via the satellite
 down-link (1st provider running BGP) and very minimum
 traffic at the second provider( terrestrial) running
 default route
 
 Because the customer does not have their own AS so a
 private AS is used
 
 regards,
 suaveguru
 --- MADMAN  wrote:
 
 
A prepend will surely influence the inbound
  traffic.  Is most of your
  traffic currently arriving via the provider your
  doing BGP with?  What
  exactly are you seeing??  Why are you even doing BGP
  with a private AS
  that is incoming only??  With the info you provided
  it's hard to give a
  good answer.
 
dave
 
  suaveguru wrote:
  
   do you think having them change private AS to
  public
   AS number then do AS-PREPEND will be able to do
  some
   kind of influencing?
  
   regards,
   suaveguru
   --- MADMAN  wrote:
   
  You have no way of influencing via BGP the
  inbound
routes since your
using a private AS on one link and default on
  the
other.  You need to
work with your providers if you wish to have
incoming traffic to your
network influenced one way or the other.
   
suaveguru wrote:

 hi all

 I have been cracking my head with this
load-balancing
 issue but still no answer .

 It goes as such

 Customer A has two providers to Internet

 The first provider runs BGP with Customer A
  and is
 only a Receive-Only Inbound link over
  Satellite

 The second provider is a terrestrial link
full-duplex
 but the customer does not run BGP with them
  but
purely
 a default route

 Question is how can I use BGP to balance the
traffic
 between the two providers for the Inbound
  traffic
to
 the customer.

 I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH
  prepend
but
 was not so ready to use it because the
  customer
does
 not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using
  private
AS
 number provided by the first satellite
  provider
and
 the first provider simply strip private
  AS-Numbers
at
 their router

 Any form of input will be greatly appreciated


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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-11 Thread MADMAN

You have no way of influencing via BGP the inbound routes since your
using a private AS on one link and default on the other.  You need to
work with your providers if you wish to have incoming traffic to your
network influenced one way or the other.

suaveguru wrote:
 
 hi all
 
 I have been cracking my head with this load-balancing
 issue but still no answer .
 
 It goes as such
 
 Customer A has two providers to Internet
 
 The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
 only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite
 
 The second provider is a terrestrial link full-duplex
 but the customer does not run BGP with them but purely
 a default route
 
 Question is how can I use BGP to balance the traffic
 between the two providers for the Inbound traffic to
 the customer.
 
 I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend but
 was not so ready to use it because the customer does
 not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private AS
 number provided by the first satellite provider and
 the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers at
 their router
 
 Any form of input will be greatly appreciated
 
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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-11 Thread suaveguru

what do you mean by this?
--- Brian  wrote:
 Troll Alert
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Farhan Ahmed 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:30 PM
 Subject: RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge
 problem [7:19339]
 
 
  then u should think abt running 2 static routes
  and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist
 
  -Original Message-
  From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge
 problem [7:19339]
 
 
  hi all
 
  I have been cracking my head with this
 load-balancing
  issue but still no answer .
 
 
  It goes as such
 
  Customer A has two providers to Internet
 
  The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
  only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite
 
  The second provider is a terrestrial link
 full-duplex
  but the customer does not run BGP with them but
 purely
  a default route
 
  Question is how can I use BGP to balance the
 traffic
  between the two providers for the Inbound traffic
 to
  the customer.
 
 
  I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend
 but
  was not so ready to use it because the customer
 does
  not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private
 AS
  number provided by the first satellite provider
 and
  the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers
 at
  their router
 
  Any form of input will be greatly appreciated
 
 
 
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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-11 Thread suaveguru

do you think having them change private AS to public
AS number then do AS-PREPEND will be able to do some
kind of influencing?


regards,
suaveguru
--- MADMAN  wrote:
 
   You have no way of influencing via BGP the inbound
 routes since your
 using a private AS on one link and default on the
 other.  You need to
 work with your providers if you wish to have
 incoming traffic to your
 network influenced one way or the other.
 
 suaveguru wrote:
  
  hi all
  
  I have been cracking my head with this
 load-balancing
  issue but still no answer .
  
  It goes as such
  
  Customer A has two providers to Internet
  
  The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
  only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite
  
  The second provider is a terrestrial link
 full-duplex
  but the customer does not run BGP with them but
 purely
  a default route
  
  Question is how can I use BGP to balance the
 traffic
  between the two providers for the Inbound traffic
 to
  the customer.
  
  I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend
 but
  was not so ready to use it because the customer
 does
  not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private
 AS
  number provided by the first satellite provider
 and
  the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers
 at
  their router
  
  Any form of input will be greatly appreciated
  
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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-11 Thread MADMAN

A prepend will surely influence the inbound traffic.  Is most of your
traffic currently arriving via the provider your doing BGP with?  What
exactly are you seeing??  Why are you even doing BGP with a private AS
that is incoming only??  With the info you provided it's hard to give a
good answer.

  dave

suaveguru wrote:
 
 do you think having them change private AS to public
 AS number then do AS-PREPEND will be able to do some
 kind of influencing?
 
 regards,
 suaveguru
 --- MADMAN  wrote:
 
You have no way of influencing via BGP the inbound
  routes since your
  using a private AS on one link and default on the
  other.  You need to
  work with your providers if you wish to have
  incoming traffic to your
  network influenced one way or the other.
 
  suaveguru wrote:
  
   hi all
  
   I have been cracking my head with this
  load-balancing
   issue but still no answer .
  
   It goes as such
  
   Customer A has two providers to Internet
  
   The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
   only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite
  
   The second provider is a terrestrial link
  full-duplex
   but the customer does not run BGP with them but
  purely
   a default route
  
   Question is how can I use BGP to balance the
  traffic
   between the two providers for the Inbound traffic
  to
   the customer.
  
   I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend
  but
   was not so ready to use it because the customer
  does
   not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private
  AS
   number provided by the first satellite provider
  and
   the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers
  at
   their router
  
   Any form of input will be greatly appreciated
  
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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-11 Thread MADMAN

I think what he means is since they are not using a registered AS the
AS that they are using is striped at the provider and your network is
seen as originating from your provider not from your private AS.

  Dave

suaveguru wrote:
 
 what do you mean by this?
 --- Brian  wrote:
  Troll Alert
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Farhan Ahmed
  To:
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:30 PM
  Subject: RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge
  problem [7:19339]
 
 
   then u should think abt running 2 static routes
   and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist
  
   -Original Message-
   From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge
  problem [7:19339]
  
  
   hi all
  
   I have been cracking my head with this
  load-balancing
   issue but still no answer .
  
  
   It goes as such
  
   Customer A has two providers to Internet
  
   The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
   only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite
  
   The second provider is a terrestrial link
  full-duplex
   but the customer does not run BGP with them but
  purely
   a default route
  
   Question is how can I use BGP to balance the
  traffic
   between the two providers for the Inbound traffic
  to
   the customer.
  
  
   I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend
  but
   was not so ready to use it because the customer
  does
   not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private
  AS
   number provided by the first satellite provider
  and
   the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers
  at
   their router
  
   Any form of input will be greatly appreciated
  
  
  
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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-11 Thread suaveguru

Most of the traffic is arriving via the provider your
doing BGP with and is via this one block of ip with a
/24 e.g 1.1.1.0/24


I am seeing almost 100% utilisation via the satellite
down-link (1st provider running BGP) and very minimum
traffic at the second provider( terrestrial) running
default route 

Because the customer does not have their own AS so a
private AS is used 


regards,
suaveguru
--- MADMAN  wrote:
 
   
   A prepend will surely influence the inbound
 traffic.  Is most of your
 traffic currently arriving via the provider your
 doing BGP with?  What
 exactly are you seeing??  Why are you even doing BGP
 with a private AS
 that is incoming only??  With the info you provided
 it's hard to give a
 good answer.
 
   dave
 
 suaveguru wrote:
  
  do you think having them change private AS to
 public
  AS number then do AS-PREPEND will be able to do
 some
  kind of influencing?
  
  regards,
  suaveguru
  --- MADMAN  wrote:
  
 You have no way of influencing via BGP the
 inbound
   routes since your
   using a private AS on one link and default on
 the
   other.  You need to
   work with your providers if you wish to have
   incoming traffic to your
   network influenced one way or the other.
  
   suaveguru wrote:
   
hi all
   
I have been cracking my head with this
   load-balancing
issue but still no answer .
   
It goes as such
   
Customer A has two providers to Internet
   
The first provider runs BGP with Customer A
 and is
only a Receive-Only Inbound link over
 Satellite
   
The second provider is a terrestrial link
   full-duplex
but the customer does not run BGP with them
 but
   purely
a default route
   
Question is how can I use BGP to balance the
   traffic
between the two providers for the Inbound
 traffic
   to
the customer.
   
I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH
 prepend
   but
was not so ready to use it because the
 customer
   does
not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using
 private
   AS
number provided by the first satellite
 provider
   and
the first provider simply strip private
 AS-Numbers
   at
their router
   
Any form of input will be greatly appreciated
   
   
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RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-10 Thread Farhan Ahmed

then u should think abt running 2 static routes
and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist

-Original Message-
From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]


hi all

I have been cracking my head with this load-balancing
issue but still no answer . 


It goes as such 

Customer A has two providers to Internet  

The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite 

The second provider is a terrestrial link full-duplex
but the customer does not run BGP with them but purely
a default route 

Question is how can I use BGP to balance the traffic
between the two providers for the Inbound traffic to
the customer.


I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend but
was not so ready to use it because the customer does
not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private AS
number provided by the first satellite provider and
the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers at
their router

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Re: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-10 Thread Brian

Troll Alert

- Original Message -
From: Farhan Ahmed 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]


 then u should think abt running 2 static routes
 and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist

 -Original Message-
 From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]


 hi all

 I have been cracking my head with this load-balancing
 issue but still no answer .


 It goes as such

 Customer A has two providers to Internet

 The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
 only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite

 The second provider is a terrestrial link full-duplex
 but the customer does not run BGP with them but purely
 a default route

 Question is how can I use BGP to balance the traffic
 between the two providers for the Inbound traffic to
 the customer.


 I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend but
 was not so ready to use it because the customer does
 not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private AS
 number provided by the first satellite provider and
 the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers at
 their router

 Any form of input will be greatly appreciated



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RE: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem [7:19339]

2001-09-10 Thread suaveguru

I can't put static routes because one provider is
down-link only and the other is two-way 

regards,

suaveguru
--- Farhan Ahmed  wrote:
 then u should think abt running 2 static routes
 and forget abt bgp cuz its really doesnt exsist
 
 -Original Message-
 From: suaveguru [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:53 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Load Balancing using BGP challenge problem
 [7:19339]
 
 
 hi all
 
 I have been cracking my head with this
 load-balancing
 issue but still no answer . 
 
 
 It goes as such 
 
 Customer A has two providers to Internet  
 
 The first provider runs BGP with Customer A and is
 only a Receive-Only Inbound link over Satellite 
 
 The second provider is a terrestrial link
 full-duplex
 but the customer does not run BGP with them but
 purely
 a default route 
 
 Question is how can I use BGP to balance the traffic
 between the two providers for the Inbound traffic to
 the customer.
 
 
 I have been contemplating on using AS-PATH prepend
 but
 was not so ready to use it because the customer does
 not have their own AS-NUMBER and is using private AS
 number provided by the first satellite provider and
 the first provider simply strip private AS-Numbers
 at
 their router
 
 Any form of input will be greatly appreciated
 
 
 
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