Re: Native IOS on 6500 vs 3500EMI for lab study? [7:55972]

2002-10-20 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""Kaminski, Shawn G""  wrote in message
news:200210210329.DAA32381@;groupstudy.com...
> Sorry for the misunderstanding, guys. I got to thinking more about this
and
> I guess I wasn't thinking of the MSFC, just the 6500 switch itself. I work
> with 6000's with MSFC's and it should have slapped me in the face right
away
> that there were similarities. There's this big mystical thing right now
> regarding these 3550's and I was having a hard time seeing anything being
> used in place of them! This information is good to know!


CL: once people get their hands on a 3550 in a rental rack, and run through
a couple of scenarios, I think all this nervous nellie stuff will disappear.
Personally, I am quite please that my CCIE Lab prep is now covering
materials and concepts that I can also use with my customers. While I was
writing my whate paper for a particular study place I got really uiced about
what I was seeing. For the first time in a very long time, the CCIE Lab is
for the most part testing forward looking technologies, and not a bunch of
obscure protocols of little relevance to most of the data world. Now if they
would just drop DLSw ;->



>
> Shawn K.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Frank Merrill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 7:17 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Native IOS on 6500 vs 3500EMI for lab study? [7:55972]
> >
> > Kaminski, Shawn G wrote:
> > >
> > > The 3550 and 6500 use different CLI's. The 3550 is IOS-based
> > > and the 6500 is
> > > set-based. There really isn't a good alternative for the 3550
> > > switch. You
> >
> > Whoa, hold on there a second.  Although the 6500 and 3550 CAN have
> > different
> > OS's, they don't necessarily HAVE TO have different CLI's.
> >
> > If the 6500 in question (with an MSFC of course) is running Native IOS
> > instead of the formerly more common CatOS/IOS Hybrid, then it does have
> > the
> > same CLI as a 3550.
> >
> > However, even with that there are some functional differences relating
to
> > things such as clustering and the like.
> >
> > If the 6500 with Native IOS can be mastered, there is little more to do
to
> > learning a 3550, and that can be accomplished in a relatively short time
> > on
> > a rental rack that has at least one 3550.
> >
> > Good Luck!
> > fgm
> >
> >
> > > could pick up a 3524XL or a 2900XL series switch, however, they
> > > won't
> > > include features such as Layer 3 routing functionality and
> > > advanced QoS
> > > features that are included with the 3550 which will probably
> > > show up on the
> > > CCIE Lab. However, the IOS-based command sets on the 3524XL and
> > > 2900XL
> > > series switches are very similar to the 3550 and would allow
> > > you to practice
> > > IOS-based commands and learn the Layer 2 functionality. Still,
> > > in my
> > > opinion, your best bet is to either purchase a 3550 or rent
> > > some 3550 rack
> > > time.
> > > Shawn K.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Jason Viera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 2:23 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Native IOS on 6500 vs 3500EMI for lab study?
> > > [7:55972]
> > > >
> > > > Group Members,
> > > > Would using a native IOS(and MFFC) on a higher end switch be
> > > the
> > > > equivalent
> > > > of using a 3550? Are the commands and feature sets somewhat
> > > similar?
> > > > Trying
> > > > to prepare for the lab. Any comments would be greatly
> > > appreciated! Thanks
> > > > in
> > > > advance, Jason




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RE: Native IOS on 6500 vs 3500EMI for lab study? [7:55972]

2002-10-20 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
Sorry for the misunderstanding, guys. I got to thinking more about this and
I guess I wasn't thinking of the MSFC, just the 6500 switch itself. I work
with 6000's with MSFC's and it should have slapped me in the face right away
that there were similarities. There's this big mystical thing right now
regarding these 3550's and I was having a hard time seeing anything being
used in place of them! This information is good to know! 

Shawn K.

> -Original Message-
> From: Frank Merrill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 7:17 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      RE: Native IOS on 6500 vs 3500EMI for lab study? [7:55972]
> 
> Kaminski, Shawn G wrote:
> > 
> > The 3550 and 6500 use different CLI's. The 3550 is IOS-based
> > and the 6500 is
> > set-based. There really isn't a good alternative for the 3550
> > switch. You
> 
> Whoa, hold on there a second.  Although the 6500 and 3550 CAN have
> different
> OS's, they don't necessarily HAVE TO have different CLI's.
> 
> If the 6500 in question (with an MSFC of course) is running Native IOS
> instead of the formerly more common CatOS/IOS Hybrid, then it does have
> the
> same CLI as a 3550.
> 
> However, even with that there are some functional differences relating to
> things such as clustering and the like.
> 
> If the 6500 with Native IOS can be mastered, there is little more to do to
> learning a 3550, and that can be accomplished in a relatively short time
> on
> a rental rack that has at least one 3550.
> 
> Good Luck!
> fgm
> 
> 
> > could pick up a 3524XL or a 2900XL series switch, however, they
> > won't
> > include features such as Layer 3 routing functionality and
> > advanced QoS
> > features that are included with the 3550 which will probably
> > show up on the
> > CCIE Lab. However, the IOS-based command sets on the 3524XL and
> > 2900XL
> > series switches are very similar to the 3550 and would allow
> > you to practice
> > IOS-based commands and learn the Layer 2 functionality. Still,
> > in my
> > opinion, your best bet is to either purchase a 3550 or rent
> > some 3550 rack
> > time.
> > Shawn K.
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jason Viera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 2:23 PM
> > > To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:  Native IOS on 6500 vs 3500EMI for lab study?
> > [7:55972]
> > > 
> > > Group Members,
> > > Would using a native IOS(and MFFC) on a higher end switch be
> > the
> > > equivalent
> > > of using a 3550? Are the commands and feature sets somewhat
> > similar?
> > > Trying
> > > to prepare for the lab. Any comments would be greatly
> > appreciated! Thanks
> > > in
> > > advance, Jason




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RE: Native IOS on 6500 vs 3500EMI for lab study? [7:55972]

2002-10-20 Thread Frank Merrill
Kaminski, Shawn G wrote:
> 
> The 3550 and 6500 use different CLI's. The 3550 is IOS-based
> and the 6500 is
> set-based. There really isn't a good alternative for the 3550
> switch. You

Whoa, hold on there a second.  Although the 6500 and 3550 CAN have different
OS's, they don't necessarily HAVE TO have different CLI's.

If the 6500 in question (with an MSFC of course) is running Native IOS
instead of the formerly more common CatOS/IOS Hybrid, then it does have the
same CLI as a 3550.

However, even with that there are some functional differences relating to
things such as clustering and the like.

If the 6500 with Native IOS can be mastered, there is little more to do to
learning a 3550, and that can be accomplished in a relatively short time on
a rental rack that has at least one 3550.

Good Luck!
fgm


> could pick up a 3524XL or a 2900XL series switch, however, they
> won't
> include features such as Layer 3 routing functionality and
> advanced QoS
> features that are included with the 3550 which will probably
> show up on the
> CCIE Lab. However, the IOS-based command sets on the 3524XL and
> 2900XL
> series switches are very similar to the 3550 and would allow
> you to practice
> IOS-based commands and learn the Layer 2 functionality. Still,
> in my
> opinion, your best bet is to either purchase a 3550 or rent
> some 3550 rack
> time.
> Shawn K.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From:   Jason Viera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:   Sunday, October 20, 2002 2:23 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:Native IOS on 6500 vs 3500EMI for lab study?
> [7:55972]
> > 
> > Group Members,
> > Would using a native IOS(and MFFC) on a higher end switch be
> the
> > equivalent
> > of using a 3550? Are the commands and feature sets somewhat
> similar?
> > Trying
> > to prepare for the lab. Any comments would be greatly
> appreciated! Thanks
> > in
> > advance, Jason
> 
> 




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