RE: OSPF LSAs [7:54293]

2002-09-26 Thread Abu Mwalie

I do not have the book with me right now, but I do know that regarding E2,
the internal cost is not condidered!! I will check the book later and see!

Trying to remember for tomorrow!!


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Re: OSPF LSAs [7:54293]

2002-09-26 Thread Russell Heilling

The second is definitely correct.  The first is also correct if you consider
the "cost of the path to the ASBR" as the cost of the path from the
destination network to the ASBR, but not if you consider it as the cost to
get to the ASBR across the OSPF network.

E1 cost = external metric + OSPF path cost
E2 cost = external metric

E1 is always preferred to E2 if both exist, regardless of the individual
metrics.

Hope this helps...

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> I studying the CiscoPress CCNP Routing Book at the moment. There appears
to
> be a contradiction on page 294 and 295. on  page 294: the path to another
AS
> can be calculated in one of two ways. The second way (E2) states that the
> cost of the path to the ASBR is all that is considered in the equation.
> However in table 6-2 on p.295 it states that LSA type 5, in relatino to E2
> "dopes not compute the internal cost - it just reports the external cost
to
> eh remote destination". This seems to be the opposite of the previosu
> statement.
>
> Can any advise which way round it is (although I think it is the cost to
the
> ASBR, and not the cost from the ASBR to the remote destination).
>
> Cheers,
> Matthew.




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RE: OSPF LSAs [7:54293]

2002-09-27 Thread Magondo, Michael

Mathew

An easy way to remember is that E1 metrics are comparable with the
intra-AS costs and thus adding intra-AS costs makes a significant change
to total costs. E2 metrics on the other hand are magnitudes greater than
intra-AS costs so adding intra-AS costs will be an insignificant change.
This is why E1=external metric + Intra-AS cost and E2=external metric

Hope this helps

Regards,

Michael

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Subject: OSPF LSAs [7:54293]

I studying the CiscoPress CCNP Routing Book at the moment. There appears
to
be a contradiction on page 294 and 295. on  page 294: the path to
another AS
can be calculated in one of two ways. The second way (E2) states that
the
cost of the path to the ASBR is all that is considered in the equation.
However in table 6-2 on p.295 it states that LSA type 5, in relatino to
E2
"dopes not compute the internal cost - it just reports the external cost
to
eh remote destination". This seems to be the opposite of the previosu
statement.

Can any advise which way round it is (although I think it is the cost to
the
ASBR, and not the cost from the ASBR to the remote destination).

Cheers,
Matthew.




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Re: OSPF LSAs [7:54293]

2002-09-27 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 12:23 AM + 9/27/02, Matthew Webster wrote:
>I studying the CiscoPress CCNP Routing Book at the moment.

As I've always understood from the IETF:

E1 metric = sum of internal costs of reaching ASBR + external cost of ASBR
E2 metric = external cost of ASBR.

>  There appears to
>be a contradiction on page 294 and 295. on  page 294: the path to another AS
>can be calculated in one of two ways. The second way (E2) states that the
>cost of the path to the ASBR is all that is considered in the equation.

If the cost of the ASBRs is equal, you get the effect of this as the 
E1 metric, but this is not implicit in the protocol.

>However in table 6-2 on p.295 it states that LSA type 5, in relatino to E2
>"dopes not compute the internal cost - it just reports the external cost to
>eh remote destination". This seems to be the opposite of the previosu
>statement.

This is the E2 metric.

>
>Can any advise which way round it is (although I think it is the cost to the
>ASBR, and not the cost from the ASBR to the remote destination).
>
>Cheers,
>Matthew.




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Re: OSPF LSAs [7:54293]

2002-09-27 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 12:23 AM + 9/27/02, Matthew Webster wrote:
>I studying the CiscoPress CCNP Routing Book at the moment.

As I've always understood from the IETF:

E1 metric = sum of internal costs of reaching ASBR + external cost of ASBR
E2 metric = external cost of ASBR.

>  There appears to
>be a contradiction on page 294 and 295. on  page 294: the path to another AS
>can be calculated in one of two ways. The second way (E2) states that the
>cost of the path to the ASBR is all that is considered in the equation.

If the cost of the ASBRs is equal, you get the effect of this as the 
E1 metric, but this is not implicit in the protocol.

>However in table 6-2 on p.295 it states that LSA type 5, in relatino to E2
>"dopes not compute the internal cost - it just reports the external cost to
>eh remote destination". This seems to be the opposite of the previosu
>statement.

This is the E2 metric.

>
>Can any advise which way round it is (although I think it is the cost to the
>ASBR, and not the cost from the ASBR to the remote destination).
>
>Cheers,
>Matthew.




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RE: OSPF LSAs [7:54293]

2002-09-27 Thread s vermill

The entire chapter on OSPF in that book is dangerous.  I would recommend
that you find another source to study OSPF or you may walk away with a very
unfortunate understanding of that particular routing protocol.  Beware
especially of any discussion involving an ASBR.

Matthew Webster wrote:
> 
> I studying the CiscoPress CCNP Routing Book at the moment.
> There appears to be a contradiction on page 294 and 295. on 
> page 294: the path to another AS can be calculated in one of
> two ways. The second way (E2) states that the cost of the path
> to the ASBR is all that is considered in the equation. However
> in table 6-2 on p.295 it states that LSA type 5, in relatino to
> E2 "dopes not compute the internal cost - it just reports the
> external cost to eh remote destination". This seems to be the
> opposite of the previosu statement.
> 
> Can any advise which way round it is (although I think it is
> the cost to the ASBR, and not the cost from the ASBR to the
> remote destination).
> 
> Cheers,
> Matthew.




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RE: OSPF LSAs [7:54293]

2002-09-29 Thread Matthew Webster

Hi all,

thanks all for your comments. It certainly is clearer in my mind that E2 is
the external metric cost...i.e. from the ASBR to the destination host, and
is not the intra-area cost from the originating host to the ASBR.

Also appreciated the last comment about the chapter overall and will keep an
eye out for other chapters.

cheers,
Matthew.


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