RE: OSPF area 0 [7:45995]

2002-06-08 Thread Peter van Oene

Of course, two backbones where you intended one is generally a sub-optimal 
occurrence.



At 03:33 PM 6/7/2002 -0400, Dusty Harper wrote:
The network doesn't totally hose.  Basically you get a second backbone.
This leads to basically two different networks.  In the example you
provided, The backbone is still contiguous

An example or where this might occur would be


 __
   Area |  |---
  --|__|C
  B   |
A | Area 0
 _| __
|  |   |  |Area 2
|__|---|__|--
 DE


If the connectivity on link A went down, Area 0 then becomes divided,
creating 2 separate networks
 1) consists of subnet B, C, and possibly A
 2) consists of D, E and possibly A

 possibly A is determined by what broke the connectivity.

OSPF still functions, it just changes its behavior to accommodate the
new topology.


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If I remember correctly, yes, Area 0 routers must always have a way to
connect to each other.  It does not have to be a full mesh (if that is
what you mean by contiguous).  Three routers in a mesh would be fine if
one link broke.

Now, if an area 0 router loses all connectivity to the other Area 0s (in
your case, isolate one point of the triangle by losing TWO links), then
your network gets borked.  You will need a virtual link (if at all
possible), or... well... your network is broken?  :)

  Hi group,
 
 
 
  Is there any condition that OSPF area 0 must be contiguous?.
 
  I remembered read this some where on CCO. Is this true?. For a
  situation, three ospf routers connected in a triangle shape, what if
  one of the link goes down?.
 
  Any one experienced on this situation, please show me some documents
  related to this?.
 
 
 
  Thanks in advance,
 
  J.
 
 
 
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RE: OSPF area 0 [7:45995]

2002-06-07 Thread Nelson Herron

You should be able to anneal the Area 0.  See Doyle, Vol. 1, pg 553.  The
implication is that the original design of Area 0 should be robust so that a
link failure will not force a partition.


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Re: OSPF area 0 [7:45995]

2002-06-07 Thread Peter van Oene

If you are looking for documents, you might start with RFC 2328.

Contiguous in this context refers to connectivity that continues without a 
break.  In that sense, within an OSPF domain, it is necessary to maintain 
contiguous connectivity in the backbone.  When contiguity is  broken, the 
area is said to be partitioned.  However, in your example, should a link in 
the triangle break, connectivity would still be contiguous as A connects to 
B which connects to C.  Should a node in the triangle suffer outages of 
both connecting links, then contiguity would be severed and the area would 
be partitioned as that node would no longer maintain any active links to 
other backbone nodes.

Pete


At 08:58 PM 6/6/2002 -0400, Cisco Study wrote:
Hi group,



Is there any condition that OSPF area 0 must be contiguous?.

I remembered read this some where on CCO. Is this true?. For a situation,
three ospf routers connected in a triangle shape, what if one of the link
goes down?.

Any one experienced on this situation, please show me some documents related
to this?.



Thanks in advance,

J.



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Re: OSPF area 0 [7:45995]

2002-06-07 Thread Carroll Kong

If I remember correctly, yes, Area 0 routers must always have a way to
connect to each other.  It does not have to be a full mesh (if that is what
you mean by contiguous).  Three routers in a mesh would be fine if one
link broke.

Now, if an area 0 router loses all connectivity to the other Area 0s (in
your case, isolate one point of the triangle by losing TWO links), then your
network gets borked.  You will need a virtual link (if at all possible), or...
well... your network is broken?  :)

 Hi group,
 
 
 
 Is there any condition that OSPF area 0 must be contiguous?.
 
 I remembered read this some where on CCO. Is this true?. For a
 situation, three ospf routers connected in a triangle shape, what if
 one of the link goes down?.
 
 Any one experienced on this situation, please show me some documents
 related to this?.
 
 
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 J.
 
 
 
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RE: OSPF area 0 [7:45995]

2002-06-07 Thread Dusty Harper

The network doesn't totally hose.  Basically you get a second backbone.
This leads to basically two different networks.  In the example you
provided, The backbone is still contiguous

An example or where this might occur would be


__
  Area |  |---
 --|__|C
 B   |
   A | Area 0
_| __
   |  |   |  |Area 2
   |__|---|__|--
DE


If the connectivity on link A went down, Area 0 then becomes divided,
creating 2 separate networks
1) consists of subnet B, C, and possibly A
2) consists of D, E and possibly A

possibly A is determined by what broke the connectivity.

OSPF still functions, it just changes its behavior to accommodate the
new topology.


-Original Message-
From: Carroll Kong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OSPF area 0 [7:45995]


If I remember correctly, yes, Area 0 routers must always have a way to
connect to each other.  It does not have to be a full mesh (if that is
what you mean by contiguous).  Three routers in a mesh would be fine if
one link broke.

Now, if an area 0 router loses all connectivity to the other Area 0s (in
your case, isolate one point of the triangle by losing TWO links), then
your network gets borked.  You will need a virtual link (if at all
possible), or... well... your network is broken?  :)

 Hi group,
 
 
 
 Is there any condition that OSPF area 0 must be contiguous?.
 
 I remembered read this some where on CCO. Is this true?. For a 
 situation, three ospf routers connected in a triangle shape, what if 
 one of the link goes down?.
 
 Any one experienced on this situation, please show me some documents 
 related to this?.
 
 
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 J.
 
 
 
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