Re: Online training
Ya You can't get the CCIE with out hands on. Duck - Original Message - From: Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 3:40 PM Subject: Online training Hi, all: My company agrees to pay me for an online CCIE training course such that I could work while study. :-) Do you guys know if there is any good quality CBT based CCIE courses out there? Thanks a lot! -Ya _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Online training
Thanks, Donald, for your suggestion. As a matter of fact, I have lots of hands-on experience on my daily work as a senior network engineer. But guess what, in my opinion, hands-on means nothing but just some repetitive keybord movements if you can not explain and understand thoroughly all your movements. To me, hands-on is not hard at all if you understand the underneath theories but not just those IOS commands, the hard part for a good network engineer is however to be an observer and lecturer not just an implementor. Unlike some people in this list, I strongly believe in reading and understanding from bottom up. That's why I think some sort of training will help me understand better than just studying by myself. Why online then? Because I am taking care of every detail of the LAN/WAN infrastracture here and just can't leave the office. :-) -Ya On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Donald B Johnson Jr wrote: Ya You can't get the CCIE with out hands on. Duck - Original Message - From: Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 3:40 PM Subject: Online training Hi, all: My company agrees to pay me for an online CCIE training course such that I could work while study. :-) Do you guys know if there is any good quality CBT based CCIE courses out there? Thanks a lot! -Ya _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Online training
It depends.. If your looking to start with class for CCNP/DP level you could take them online through Global Knowledge who has e-learning where your basically video-conferencing with only one way video with you seeing the instructor. It is live as far as I know you click a button and it raises a hand so the instructor knows you have a question, etc.. Sounds cool but like Duck says nothing beats hands on or even classroom training. Cory -Original Message- From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 4:07 PM To: Ya Wen; Cisco Group Study Subject: Re: Online training Ya You can't get the CCIE with out hands on. Duck - Original Message - From: Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 3:40 PM Subject: Online training Hi, all: My company agrees to pay me for an online CCIE training course such that I could work while study. :-) Do you guys know if there is any good quality CBT based CCIE courses out there? Thanks a lot! -Ya _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Online training
Well as someone that has taught along as engineered I couldn't agree more. If you understand the theory you will easily implement commands. Keep this in mind though without detailed debug and show commands it is a long way to acheive cert. Example. It is one thing to know the theory of how the routing table gets populated but is another thing when you start to have static/dynamic routes redistribution and then a route goes down what happens next. You better have a grounded knowledge of sh debug commands. Duck - Original Message - From: Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Donald B Johnson Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Online training Thanks, Donald, for your suggestion. As a matter of fact, I have lots of hands-on experience on my daily work as a senior network engineer. But guess what, in my opinion, hands-on means nothing but just some repetitive keybord movements if you can not explain and understand thoroughly all your movements. To me, hands-on is not hard at all if you understand the underneath theories but not just those IOS commands, the hard part for a good network engineer is however to be an observer and lecturer not just an implementor. Unlike some people in this list, I strongly believe in reading and understanding from bottom up. That's why I think some sort of training will help me understand better than just studying by myself. Why online then? Because I am taking care of every detail of the LAN/WAN infrastracture here and just can't leave the office. :-) -Ya On Wed, 25 Oct 2000, Donald B Johnson Jr wrote: Ya You can't get the CCIE with out hands on. Duck - Original Message - From: Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 3:40 PM Subject: Online training Hi, all: My company agrees to pay me for an online CCIE training course such that I could work while study. :-) Do you guys know if there is any good quality CBT based CCIE courses out there? Thanks a lot! -Ya _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Online training
why on-line, get the real one, you have to do a lot of lab Sam Li - Original Message - From: Ya Wen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cisco Group Study [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 6:40 AM Subject: Online training Hi, all: My company agrees to pay me for an online CCIE training course such that I could work while study. :-) Do you guys know if there is any good quality CBT based CCIE courses out there? Thanks a lot! -Ya _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Online training
I don't know about the CBT's but I heard www.globalknowledge.com is a great school. They offer both online and class room training. Sincerely, Peter Kurdziel CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, MCP+I http://www.inotez.com Cisco QA http://www.inotez.com/discus -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ya Wen Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 6:40 PM To: Cisco Group Study Subject: Online training Hi, all: My company agrees to pay me for an online CCIE training course such that I could work while study. :-) Do you guys know if there is any good quality CBT based CCIE courses out there? Thanks a lot! -Ya _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _NetZero Free Internet Access and Email__ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
