RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676]

2002-06-03 Thread Karagozian Sarkis

OK 
Good to know, 
I will forget this Old PIX config and will look into more 
newer PIX 6.2 configs. Thanks for the advise.

Sarkis


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RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676]

2002-06-03 Thread Mears, Rob

The statement 
NAT and GLOBAL is used for inside to outside communication.

STATIC is used for outside to inside communication.
No longer holds true but it is a good rule to keep you straight.  Check
out ios PIX 6.2, they have removed the rules as we know it.

You can now do a satatic (outside,inside)or a   nat 1 (outside)
x.x.x.x

Cool stuff

Thanks
Rob Mears III,  CCNP, MCSE, CNE, NNCDS, NNCSS, NNCPS, MCP+I, A+
Technical Mercenary
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NAT and GLOBAL is used for inside to outside communication.

STATIC is used for outside to inside communication.

Since the device(s) we're talking about seems to be a server/service of
some kind located on your inside network, you use the NAT 0 to let the
server communicate outbound with the same (unNATed) IP address, and you
use STATIC with the same IP for global and local so outside clients can
access the services running on the server.

Hth,

Ole

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Subject: RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676]


Thanks Ole,

I just noticed the nat 0 

Here is how this old PIX is configured:

nat (inside) 0 216.119.xx.0 255.255.255.0 0 0 
static (inside,outside) 216.119.xx.0 216.119.xx.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
0
0   -- why same IP for both??
static (websvers,oustide) 216.119.xx.240 216.119.xx.240 netmask
255.255.255.240 0 0  --- also same IP for both ??

Can u explain. more...
Thanks
Sarkis




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RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676]

2002-06-03 Thread Karagozian Sarkis

Thanks Ole,

Yes I see some access-lists like:
!
access-list JPS permit ip haost 216.119.x.6 host 166.90.1xx.50
access-list JPS permit ip 216.119.xx.0 255.255.255.0 166.90.1xx.48 ...
!then some crypto map entries as follows:

crypto map jps 1 ipsec-isakmp
crypto map jps 1 match address jps
crypto map jps 1 set peer 
crypto map jps 1 set transform-set strong
crypto map jps inteface outside  (hence acl named jps applied to outide
interface e0)
 
Ok Got it now.
Thanks for good info.



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RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676]

2002-06-03 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

NAT and GLOBAL is used for inside to outside communication.

STATIC is used for outside to inside communication.

Since the device(s) we're talking about seems to be a server/service of some
kind located on your inside network, you use the NAT 0 to let the server
communicate outbound with the same (unNATed) IP address, and you use STATIC
with the same IP for global and local so outside clients can access the
services running on the server.

Hth,

Ole

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From: Karagozian Sarkis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676]


Thanks Ole,

I just noticed the nat 0 

Here is how this old PIX is configured:

nat (inside) 0 216.119.xx.0 255.255.255.0 0 0 
static (inside,outside) 216.119.xx.0 216.119.xx.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 0
0   -- why same IP for both??
static (websvers,oustide) 216.119.xx.240 216.119.xx.240 netmask
255.255.255.240 0 0  --- also same IP for both ??

Can u explain. more...
Thanks
Sarkis




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RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676]

2002-06-03 Thread John Golovich

This is saying that from the inside to the outside do
not translate the 216.119 network (they would stay the
same).

>From the outside, connection to the 216.119.X.240
address can come through the PIX and do not translate
the address.

There should be an ACL that goes with this as well 
(outside to inside need both a static entry and an
ACL).
 
> nat (inside) 0 216.119.xx.0 255.255.255.0 0 0 
> static (inside,outside) 216.119.xx.0 216.119.xx.0
> netmask 255.255.255.0 0
> 0   -- why same IP for both??
> static (websvers,oustide) 216.119.xx.240
> 216.119.xx.240 netmask
> 255.255.255.240 0 0  --- also same IP for both
> ??
> 
> Can u explain. more...
> Thanks
> Sarkis 
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RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676]

2002-06-03 Thread Karagozian Sarkis

Thanks Ole,

I just noticed the nat 0 

Here is how this old PIX is configured:

nat (inside) 0 216.119.xx.0 255.255.255.0 0 0 
static (inside,outside) 216.119.xx.0 216.119.xx.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 0
0   -- why same IP for both??
static (websvers,oustide) 216.119.xx.240 216.119.xx.240 netmask
255.255.255.240 0 0  --- also same IP for both ??

Can u explain. more...
Thanks
Sarkis 


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RE: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676]

2002-06-03 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

To my best knowledge, you WILL NEED a global command when using the nat
command, UNLESS you are using the nat-id 0 to disable nat on devices located
on the inside network with public addresses.

Example:

  PIX(config)# nat (inside) 0 0 0
  nat 0 0.0.0.0 will be non-translated
  PIX(config)# show nat
  nat (inside) 0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0 0
  PIX(config)#

Hth,

Ole

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Subject: PIX - Why NO glaobal (outside) command [7:45676]


I have seen some PIX configs with NO global (outside) 1 . command 
but only see NAT (inside) 1 0 0 command .
Does that mean all traffic is allowed to go out ??? 

Can someone expaln.
Thanks

Sarkis




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