Re: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
I would think that this would be a bad thing, for two reasons: one, the number of people who put CCIE Written on their resumes will increase, and the availability of lab dates will decrease. US$0.02, BJ ---Original Message--- From: Bernard Sent: 12/03/02 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] Cisco is using a sliding scale based on overall failure rate of the exam. As of 10/19, you needed a 58% to pass, not the 70% . The required % to pass will change over time, again based on failure rate. This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it used to be at 70%. Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE written [7:58400] From my experience the passing score were 70% Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58451t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
They better not be putting CCIE written, see point 2 below... I posted this in a thread on the jobs@groupstudy list - straight from the source: Discussion Thread Response (Marisol) 11/21/2002 08:50 AM Dear Bill: Thank you for your patience. 1) When using the logos for business cards or signatures, it is preferred that you use the highest certification as those familiar with Cisco certifications will know the order of certifications. 2) Signature lines, cover letters, or resumes can not reference that an individual is a CCIE candidate. Only CCIE certified individuals should reference their certification as they have already completed it. 3) Trademark violations are escalated to our legal team and are strictly enforced. In addition to the loss of Cisco certifications, legal actions can also be taken when this happens. If you have any further questions, click on the hyperlink below to update, review or generate a support request. Be sure to bookmark the www.cisco.com/go/certsupport site for all of your future Cisco Training and Career Certification inquires. -Original Message- From: B.J. Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:40 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] I would think that this would be a bad thing, for two reasons: one, the number of people who put CCIE Written on their resumes will increase, and the availability of lab dates will decrease. US$0.02, BJ ---Original Message--- From: Bernard Sent: 12/03/02 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] Cisco is using a sliding scale based on overall failure rate of the exam. As of 10/19, you needed a 58% to pass, not the 70% . The required % to pass will change over time, again based on failure rate. This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it used to be at 70%. Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE written [7:58400] From my experience the passing score were 70% Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58459t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
B.J. Wilson wrote: I would think that this would be a bad thing, for two reasons: one, the number of people who put CCIE Written on their resumes will increase, and the availability of lab dates will decrease. I don't think the lower passing score means more people pass. The test is harder than it used to be. US$0.02, BJ ---Original Message--- From: Bernard Sent: 12/03/02 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] Cisco is using a sliding scale based on overall failure rate of the exam. As of 10/19, you needed a 58% to pass, not the 70% . The required % to pass will change over time, again based on failure rate. This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it used to be at 70%. Isn't your logic backwards if you say that the exam is more doable and less scary now? To maintain the same ratio of passing people versus non-passing people, they reduced the passing score because the exam is harder to pass than it used to be. At least that is what I would assume, or am I confused? Priscilla Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE written [7:58400] From my experience the passing score were 70% Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58478t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
i can attest to that...i passed w/o a prob 3 yrs ago failed on the new written...its a night day difference...when they lower the pass mark from 70% to 58%, it should make you think! -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] B.J. Wilson wrote: I would think that this would be a bad thing, for two reasons: one, the number of people who put CCIE Written on their resumes will increase, and the availability of lab dates will decrease. I don't think the lower passing score means more people pass. The test is harder than it used to be. US$0.02, BJ ---Original Message--- From: Bernard Sent: 12/03/02 11:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE written [7:58400] Cisco is using a sliding scale based on overall failure rate of the exam. As of 10/19, you needed a 58% to pass, not the 70% . The required % to pass will change over time, again based on failure rate. This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it used to be at 70%. Isn't your logic backwards if you say that the exam is more doable and less scary now? To maintain the same ratio of passing people versus non-passing people, they reduced the passing score because the exam is harder to pass than it used to be. At least that is what I would assume, or am I confused? Priscilla Bernard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 3:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE written [7:58400] From my experience the passing score were 70% Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58484t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
Priscilla, more doable less scary refers to the same exam (new format) at different passing scores. I did not mean to compare the new format and the old format. The new CCIE written exam with 58% as the passing score is more doable less scary than the same new CCIE written exam with 70% as the passing score. Rgds, Bernard This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it used to be at 70%. Isn't your logic backwards if you say that the exam is more doable and less scary now? To maintain the same ratio of passing people versus non-passing people, they reduced the passing score because the exam is harder to pass than it used to be. At least that is what I would assume, or am I confused? Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58486t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: CCIE written [7:58400]
I've noticed however that the lab itself isn't booked heavily (I could be wrong) If the pool isn't full, turn on the hose and fill it up. Training down your qualification requirements accomplishes that as far as I see it. On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 16:19, Bernard wrote: Priscilla, more doable less scary refers to the same exam (new format) at different passing scores. I did not mean to compare the new format and the old format. The new CCIE written exam with 58% as the passing score is more doable less scary than the same new CCIE written exam with 70% as the passing score. Rgds, Bernard This exam is much more doable now. It is not as scary as it used to be at 70%. Isn't your logic backwards if you say that the exam is more doable and less scary now? To maintain the same ratio of passing people versus non-passing people, they reduced the passing score because the exam is harder to pass than it used to be. At least that is what I would assume, or am I confused? Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=58488t=58400 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
