Re: Recruiters Comments!! [7:2310]
Adele, I have noticed that many times the recruiters dont even understand the certification (and they get a commision! LOL), but it does not appear to be as valuable as a CCNA and experience (like you have), so I would not worry too much. Before I completed the CCNP, I listed on my resume passed exams in progress for CCNP. And later on after a recruiter asks I see you have your CCNP, Are you working on your CCNA?, I just tell them Well, you may want to go to www.cisco.com/certifications and get up to speed on the cert. Then I just concentrate on getting past the recruiter to the employer to answer the real meaningful questions they will ask in an interview like. Explain OSPF, or what is the purpose of subnet 255.255.255.252 between two routers, or how and why would you implement BGP? Good Luck, you have no need to worry and maybe you can teach a recruiter a helpful tip or two in your journey - Original Message - From: Adele Galus To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:41 PM Subject: Recruiters Comments!! [7:2310] I don't know if this is just me, Why, do the recruiters always asked when you indicate, CCNP in progress on your resume When will you have it finished? Is that going to make a difference whether I qualify for a position or not? I have two other major certifications and 4 years experience in the IT field. I'm wondering if it should even be mentioned??? I look forward to your remarks. Thank you. FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2363t=2310 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recruiters Comments!! [7:2310]
That seems like a valid question to me. Assuming that these certs are a useful tool for recruiters and HR personnel to measure a candidates skill, then I would say there is a big difference between someone who is just picking up his first book to begin CCNP preparations and someone who is about to take the last exam. Unfairly or not, this information is also often used to determine salary. Probably a better question would be to ask which of the 4 tests involved in the CCNP track have you passed. Adele Galus wrote: I don't know if this is just me, Why, do the recruiters always asked when you indicate, CCNP in progress on your resume When will you have it finished? Is that going to make a difference whether I qualify for a position or not? I have two other major certifications and 4 years experience in the IT field. I'm wondering if it should even be mentioned??? I look forward to your remarks. Thank you. FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2313t=2310 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recruiters Comments!! [7:2310]
I often wondered about listing the completed test towards the certification, instead of referencing the CCNP. Thank you, Adele Brian M. Green wrote: That seems like a valid question to me. Assuming that these certs are a useful tool for recruiters and HR personnel to measure a candidates skill, then I would say there is a big difference between someone who is just picking up his first book to begin CCNP preparations and someone who is about to take the last exam. Unfairly or not, this information is also often used to determine salary. Probably a better question would be to ask which of the 4 tests involved in the CCNP track have you passed. Adele Galus wrote: I don't know if this is just me, Why, do the recruiters always asked when you indicate, CCNP in progress on your resume When will you have it finished? Is that going to make a difference whether I qualify for a position or not? I have two other major certifications and 4 years experience in the IT field. I'm wondering if it should even be mentioned??? I look forward to your remarks. Thank you. FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2327t=2310 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Recruiters Comments!! [7:2310]
Showing the exam shows the areas of knowledge. eg.: having Routing 2.0 - but not Switching 2.0 - might favor you for a routing postion rather than a switching position. Feargal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adele Galus Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 2:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Recruiters Comments!! [7:2310] I often wondered about listing the completed test towards the certification, instead of referencing the CCNP. Thank you, Adele Brian M. Green wrote: That seems like a valid question to me. Assuming that these certs are a useful tool for recruiters and HR personnel to measure a candidates skill, then I would say there is a big difference between someone who is just picking up his first book to begin CCNP preparations and someone who is about to take the last exam. Unfairly or not, this information is also often used to determine salary. Probably a better question would be to ask which of the 4 tests involved in the CCNP track have you passed. Adele Galus wrote: I don't know if this is just me, Why, do the recruiters always asked when you indicate, CCNP in progress on your resume When will you have it finished? Is that going to make a difference whether I qualify for a position or not? I have two other major certifications and 4 years experience in the IT field. I'm wondering if it should even be mentioned??? I look forward to your remarks. Thank you. FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2330t=2310 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recruiters Comments!! [7:2310]
Wow - that is amazing background. I welcome your point of view and I can work with that. Thank you. Adele Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote: If it's a 3rd party recruiter, they're likely wondering because they have a client who has requested the recruiter find candidates that have achieved CCNP certification. If you're close to completing your certification, they might be able to persuade the client to look at your resume and consider you for the position. I achieved my CNE and MCSE certifications back in 1994 and have over 12 years actively working in the IT industry. I began programming at age 12, and by age 14, started the local computer club at my school teaching programming during the lunch hour. From the age of 4, my dad made the mistake of turning me loose on his department's mainframe (playing games, or so he thought). Once he was out of sight, I'd exit the games and try hacking my way through the system using the commands I had seen him use while on the job. I've been around computers ever since I can remember (29 years and counting!) Just because I've fooled around with a mainframe (and can pick my way through most mains and minis today), that I've got 12 years professional support experience, that I have achieved two other major certifications in addition to CCNA and CCDA doesn't give anyone the confidence that I can support an internetwork infrastructure that requires someone with the skill level of a CCNP -- especially in light of the fact braindump sites (and test quizzers that provide actual exam questions) have become so prevalent. The requirement for CCNP certification defines the minimum skill level required by the employer. If you have the skills and experience but not the certification, by indicating you'd be able to pass the exams in a brief period of time, you'd be a candidate that the employer would likely look at. If you can't achieve that level of certification in a relatively short period of time, you're underqualified for what is expected of you. -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adele Galus Sent: April 27, 2001 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recruiters Comments!! [7:2310] I don't know if this is just me, Why, do the recruiters always asked when you indicate, CCNP in progress on your resume When will you have it finished? Is that going to make a difference whether I qualify for a position or not? I have two other major certifications and 4 years experience in the IT field. I'm wondering if it should even be mentioned??? I look forward to your remarks. Thank you. FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2325t=2310 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Recruiters Comments!! [7:2310]
If it's a 3rd party recruiter, they're likely wondering because they have a client who has requested the recruiter find candidates that have achieved CCNP certification. If you're close to completing your certification, they might be able to persuade the client to look at your resume and consider you for the position. I achieved my CNE and MCSE certifications back in 1994 and have over 12 years actively working in the IT industry. I began programming at age 12, and by age 14, started the local computer club at my school teaching programming during the lunch hour. From the age of 4, my dad made the mistake of turning me loose on his department's mainframe (playing games, or so he thought). Once he was out of sight, I'd exit the games and try hacking my way through the system using the commands I had seen him use while on the job. I've been around computers ever since I can remember (29 years and counting!) Just because I've fooled around with a mainframe (and can pick my way through most mains and minis today), that I've got 12 years professional support experience, that I have achieved two other major certifications in addition to CCNA and CCDA doesn't give anyone the confidence that I can support an internetwork infrastructure that requires someone with the skill level of a CCNP -- especially in light of the fact braindump sites (and test quizzers that provide actual exam questions) have become so prevalent. The requirement for CCNP certification defines the minimum skill level required by the employer. If you have the skills and experience but not the certification, by indicating you'd be able to pass the exams in a brief period of time, you'd be a candidate that the employer would likely look at. If you can't achieve that level of certification in a relatively short period of time, you're underqualified for what is expected of you. -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Adele Galus Sent: April 27, 2001 1:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Recruiters Comments!! [7:2310] I don't know if this is just me, Why, do the recruiters always asked when you indicate, CCNP in progress on your resume When will you have it finished? Is that going to make a difference whether I qualify for a position or not? I have two other major certifications and 4 years experience in the IT field. I'm wondering if it should even be mentioned??? I look forward to your remarks. Thank you. FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=2318t=2310 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
