Re: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]

2001-12-04 Thread Donny Mateo

well you don't always have to put frame-relay map or interface dlci command 
to configure frame-relay.
The most basic one could just be
int serial0
ip address x.x.x.x y.y.y.y
encap frame-relay
exit
The router will do the mapping of dlci to ip address by using inverse-arp 
dynamically.

and as far as I know the router will maintain some sort of cache for this 
mapping
you can check it out by using the command sh frame map.




>From: "MADMAN" 
>Reply-To: "MADMAN" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]
>Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:31:30 -0500
>
>not sure what an ip address has to do with LMI nor inverse arp as a
>map or interface dlci x will work just fine too.  Thew bottom line is up
>and up on a frame circuit does not mean active PVC.
>
>   Dave
>
>
>
>Donald wrote:
> >
> > Yeah if you inverse arp and you change the ip address on one end, the
> > circuit will stay up, lmi will function, but you will not transfer data.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "MADMAN"
> > To: "Donald"
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:36 PM
> > Subject: Re: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]
> >
> > >
> > >   Yup, up and up, you got LMI between you and the switch not an active
> > > PVC.
> > >
> > >   Dave
> > >
> > > Donald wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Not necessarily you can have a frame connection in an up/up state 
>and
> > not
> > > > transfer data can't you.
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "Gregg Malcolm"
> > > > To:
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:01 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW 
>[7:27930]
> > > >
> > > > > Anil,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sorry, my explaination wasn't very good.  The answer can't be 
>B
> > since
> > > > > you have no information saying data is being sent and received.  
>The
> > > > answer
> > > > > A does fit since a frame relay connection is active if int status 
>is
> > > > UP/UP.
> > > > >
> > > > > As far as the 2nd part, AFAIK not every encap uses keepalives.  
>Frame
> > > > Relay
> > > > > is somewhat special in that an UP/UP status really means that data
> > COULD
> > > > be
> > > > > xfer'ed.  The case of the broken remote CSU/DSU does not fit this
> > > > scenarios
> > > > > since keepalives would not be received.  The question seems geared
> > toward
> > > > > trying to trick the engineer into thinking that data is being 
>xfered
> > vs.
> > > > > could be.  Many encap use keepalives.  A few are F/R, ATM, PPP and
> > HDLC
> > > > (PPP
> > > > > uses an echo).  Not sure if all do (probably not).  Hope that 
>helps.
> > > --
> > > David Madland
> > > Sr. Network Engineer
> > > CCIE# 2016
> > > Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 612-664-3367
> > >
> > > "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it"
>
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>
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Re: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]

2001-12-04 Thread MADMAN

not sure what an ip address has to do with LMI nor inverse arp as a
map or interface dlci x will work just fine too.  Thew bottom line is up
and up on a frame circuit does not mean active PVC.

  Dave



Donald wrote:
> 
> Yeah if you inverse arp and you change the ip address on one end, the
> circuit will stay up, lmi will function, but you will not transfer data.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "MADMAN" 
> To: "Donald" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]
> 
> >
> >   Yup, up and up, you got LMI between you and the switch not an active
> > PVC.
> >
> >   Dave
> >
> > Donald wrote:
> > >
> > > Not necessarily you can have a frame connection in an up/up state and
> not
> > > transfer data can't you.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gregg Malcolm"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:01 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]
> > >
> > > > Anil,
> > > >
> > > > I'm sorry, my explaination wasn't very good.  The answer can't be B
> since
> > > > you have no information saying data is being sent and received.  The
> > > answer
> > > > A does fit since a frame relay connection is active if int status is
> > > UP/UP.
> > > >
> > > > As far as the 2nd part, AFAIK not every encap uses keepalives.  Frame
> > > Relay
> > > > is somewhat special in that an UP/UP status really means that data
> COULD
> > > be
> > > > xfer'ed.  The case of the broken remote CSU/DSU does not fit this
> > > scenarios
> > > > since keepalives would not be received.  The question seems geared
> toward
> > > > trying to trick the engineer into thinking that data is being xfered
> vs.
> > > > could be.  Many encap use keepalives.  A few are F/R, ATM, PPP and
> HDLC
> > > (PPP
> > > > uses an echo).  Not sure if all do (probably not).  Hope that helps.
> > --
> > David Madland
> > Sr. Network Engineer
> > CCIE# 2016
> > Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 612-664-3367
> >
> > "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it"

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Re: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]

2001-12-04 Thread Donald

Yeah if you inverse arp and you change the ip address on one end, the
circuit will stay up, lmi will function, but you will not transfer data.


- Original Message -
From: "MADMAN" 
To: "Donald" 
Cc: 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]


>
>   Yup, up and up, you got LMI between you and the switch not an active
> PVC.
>
>   Dave
>
> Donald wrote:
> >
> > Not necessarily you can have a frame connection in an up/up state and
not
> > transfer data can't you.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Gregg Malcolm"
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:01 PM
> > Subject: RE: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]
> >
> > > Anil,
> > >
> > > I'm sorry, my explaination wasn't very good.  The answer can't be B
since
> > > you have no information saying data is being sent and received.  The
> > answer
> > > A does fit since a frame relay connection is active if int status is
> > UP/UP.
> > >
> > > As far as the 2nd part, AFAIK not every encap uses keepalives.  Frame
> > Relay
> > > is somewhat special in that an UP/UP status really means that data
COULD
> > be
> > > xfer'ed.  The case of the broken remote CSU/DSU does not fit this
> > scenarios
> > > since keepalives would not be received.  The question seems geared
toward
> > > trying to trick the engineer into thinking that data is being xfered
vs.
> > > could be.  Many encap use keepalives.  A few are F/R, ATM, PPP and
HDLC
> > (PPP
> > > uses an echo).  Not sure if all do (probably not).  Hope that helps.
> --
> David Madland
> Sr. Network Engineer
> CCIE# 2016
> Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 612-664-3367
>
> "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it"




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Re: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]

2001-12-03 Thread MADMAN

Yup, up and up, you got LMI between you and the switch not an active
PVC.

  Dave

Donald wrote:
> 
> Not necessarily you can have a frame connection in an up/up state and not
> transfer data can't you.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gregg Malcolm"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:01 PM
> Subject: RE: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]
> 
> > Anil,
> >
> > I'm sorry, my explaination wasn't very good.  The answer can't be B since
> > you have no information saying data is being sent and received.  The
> answer
> > A does fit since a frame relay connection is active if int status is
> UP/UP.
> >
> > As far as the 2nd part, AFAIK not every encap uses keepalives.  Frame
> Relay
> > is somewhat special in that an UP/UP status really means that data COULD
> be
> > xfer'ed.  The case of the broken remote CSU/DSU does not fit this
> scenarios
> > since keepalives would not be received.  The question seems geared toward
> > trying to trick the engineer into thinking that data is being xfered vs.
> > could be.  Many encap use keepalives.  A few are F/R, ATM, PPP and HDLC
> (PPP
> > uses an echo).  Not sure if all do (probably not).  Hope that helps.
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Re: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]

2001-12-03 Thread Donald

Not necessarily you can have a frame connection in an up/up state and not
transfer data can't you.



- Original Message -
From: "Gregg Malcolm" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: RE: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]


> Anil,
>
> I'm sorry, my explaination wasn't very good.  The answer can't be B since
> you have no information saying data is being sent and received.  The
answer
> A does fit since a frame relay connection is active if int status is
UP/UP.
>
> As far as the 2nd part, AFAIK not every encap uses keepalives.  Frame
Relay
> is somewhat special in that an UP/UP status really means that data COULD
be
> xfer'ed.  The case of the broken remote CSU/DSU does not fit this
scenarios
> since keepalives would not be received.  The question seems geared toward
> trying to trick the engineer into thinking that data is being xfered vs.
> could be.  Many encap use keepalives.  A few are F/R, ATM, PPP and HDLC
(PPP
> uses an echo).  Not sure if all do (probably not).  Hope that helps.




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RE: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]

2001-12-02 Thread anil

>The question seems geared toward trying to trick the 
>engineer into thinking that data is being xfered vs.
>could be.  

Yep, it certianly had me fooled.
Many thanks for clearing the confusion
-Anil




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RE: Serial Line is up and line protocol is up ANSW [7:27930]

2001-12-02 Thread Gregg Malcolm

Anil,

I'm sorry, my explaination wasn't very good.  The answer can't be B since
you have no information saying data is being sent and received.  The answer
A does fit since a frame relay connection is active if int status is UP/UP.

As far as the 2nd part, AFAIK not every encap uses keepalives.  Frame Relay
is somewhat special in that an UP/UP status really means that data COULD be
xfer'ed.  The case of the broken remote CSU/DSU does not fit this scenarios
since keepalives would not be received.  The question seems geared toward
trying to trick the engineer into thinking that data is being xfered vs.
could be.  Many encap use keepalives.  A few are F/R, ATM, PPP and HDLC (PPP
uses an echo).  Not sure if all do (probably not).  Hope that helps.




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